"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[05XR8]

Your results yesterday have given me some encouragement to try something similar when I get back to the game
after my anime convention this week as that's something I've wanted to try but felt needed to get more track
experience before doing so.

Hopefully something I will comment on in the not too distant future.

I set my expectations on a clean race, to watch my replays. Where I end up, is secondary. What's interesting, are the cars characteristics.

As a quick example: At a track with high curbs on the corners, I find the SLS and Mustang suspensions are super stiff. Both cars have awesome steering. I can aim the front of the car easily. Smashing those curbs gets them airborne. When they land, it's pretty solid(virtually).
Now, the RC F. The suspension feels soft. Smashing big curbs isn't as dramatic. PD have dialed in the shocks" really good. When the car lands, it's smooth. This helps make the car feel stable, in my opinion.

Just changing things up a bit while having fun.

 

[O604]

I have to agree with the door number being meaningless. I've had high #'s on my door and I know the computer doesn't expect me to finish there.

My guess is it's part qualifying time at the time of entry and order of joining the race. And then it varies with cars posting faster times after entry.

For example a DR S driver does a few laps before entering, then after entering improves by a few seconds. Hence lower number on door but higher grid position. Just a guess.

 

[eckie]

Doing great so far on race b, got about 4 wins until now in a mix of a/b/c driving ratings. Tried a race or two at suzuka but the punters at spoon and the hairpin tilts me off this planet, no matter what sr i am running at, there are always a couple ***** who dives from god knows where and shove me off the road.

 

[Famine]

I have to agree with the door number being meaningless. I've had high #'s on my door and I know the computer doesn't expect me to finish there.

My guess is it's part qualifying time at the time of entry and order of joining the race.

It's not meaningless, and it is your DR score rank in the lobby (albeit alphabetical ranking rather than numerical, thus it's very wonky with DR scores below 10,000) - nothing to do with qualifying time or entry time. However, it's not overtly used in calculating your new DR score - that's governed by your finishing position and the DR of the drivers you beat and didn't beat relative to yours.

The door number should be taken as a guide as to where you should be expecting to finish as a minimum in order to gain DR. But even if you do, it won't guarantee it. If you're beaten by drivers with lower DR score, you'll likely lose DR unless you also beat drivers with a higher DR score.

 

[Mat73]

On a grid of mixed DRs. door number is meaningless. It's assigned alphabetically. I was on a grid with DR/As and Bs. As a DR/D who qualified second last with 1 DR point, I was assigned 1 as my door number . By your reckoning, I should have finished 1st in order not to loose points. I finished somewhere just below the middle. I gained points.

Now that explains how I ended up with a number 4 on my car the other day at Brands when I was a 26k B.

After doing about 40 laps practice I did a personal best and was put in 16th place...over a second away from 10th in a room full of A's and a few A+ drivers.

Didn't stand a chance and after getting rammed off track, losing concentration and interest, ended up finishing 18th and last.


Good to know about the alphabetical matching for the future though.

Gives me something to keep motivated.

Cheers.

 

[VeeDoubleU]

I'm clean, I do not have a penalty
I know I'm dirty in your eyes
It does not matter if you are a forum moderator but you are not in my judges' races
Everyone has the right to comment on the moderator

Everyone has the right to mention how you were dirty and pushed the other person wide. Grow up. Accept responsibility for your actions. And no, I'm not defending the other drivers actions afterwards.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I did a bunch of races again without qualifying for a relaxed Sunday morning. The daily B was kinda dirty at first, cleaned up later. I avoided most of the mess from the back yet ended up once with a 10 sec penalty for a tiny bump to a car that lost control and swerved right back in front of me. It only helped him and it was so little I hardly lost any speed.

Oddly when it happened again in another race and I punted that car off into a disastrous tail spin I did not get a penalty yet a clean race bonus. In the second incident I had time to react and was braking as hard as I could before punting him. He was also going a lot slower after hitting the wall on the other side, than the car in the first incident. I still lost 5 places because of his accident.

In another race I had a nose sticker behind me. No penalties yet he unsettled my car enough for me to run wide. He said he didn't notice contact so perhaps it was lag. Just don't follow that close, you don't get a better exit that way, the only purpose is to push people off their line. If the contact indicator lights up, you are too close. Always leave a little room for lag.

I did build up a clean streak of 3 until I got run off, got a couple more clean races, gained some decent positions although 8th was about the best I could do in 3 laps from the back in the mainly A/S lobbies with several A+, S and some B thrown in. End result, good racing, 4.6K down from yesterdays racing with qualifying.

Suzuka later.

On the topic of being clean because you didn't get a penalty, speed limits are only for those that get caught! The penalty system is so wonky, over half of the people I report for dirty tactics never get a penalty or red rating. That's the main reason I use the report button as the penalty system isn't working.

 

[sturk0167]

I'm clean, I do not have a penalty
I know I'm dirty in your eyes
It does not matter if you are a forum moderator but you are not in my judges' races
Everyone has the right to comment on the moderator

It just looked like an accident to me. I do not believe it was intentional. Everyone who has ever raced GTS has made mistakes like that. There's a lot of self-righteousness going around.

The other driver only knows what happened, and not what you were thinking.

 

[EERIEISSSS]

Well, nice little races at Suzuka this morning, enough to reach a new DR peak at 57624 especially one race, my dear @EERIEISSSS........I hope you recorded that

I did, and here is the video of it!! for the race and congrats on your DR score, v impressive...

 

[Cabelmania]

I did, and here is the video of it!! for the race and congrats on your DR score, v impressive...

My DR is what happen when you play a lot in the morning BTW you managed to surpass me during the pit stop only because I needed to fully recharge Playing with automatic trasmission has this little disadvantage

 

[manion]

Played Suzuka a fair bit with no qualifying had a few wins coming from the back which was nice, really liked the beetle and z4. Rebuilding my sr from c after no qualifying Monza and the ridiculous barely rub the back of a car 10sec penalty.

Cracked the 40k dr mark finally after getting reset a couple of weeks ago

 

[2clicks]

This weekend's races were a bit of a mixed bag. Saturday's Gr.3 at Dragon Trail was... okay I suppose, finishing 6th and then 4th in my NSX, which I have fallen in love with again, then today's 10-lapper at Suzuka nearly yielded me the same results, but on lap 8, my 🤬 mind wandered again as I was exiting the last S curve, touching the grass on the outside and sending me, and my hold on the race, spinning out of control. I finished 12th, the first time that I finished outside the top 10 at Suzuka since I purchased the game.

I still can't threaten the top 3 with this car, but I can at least establish a form of consistency with my lap times. To me, the NSX feels like the smoothest Gr.3 car. Not necessarily the fastest, but the smoothest. This weekend I was at least comfortable, although I got a little bit too comfortable at Suzuka, and I hit the 99 point SR ceiling for the first time too, with 3 consecutive clean races, so it's not a total loss.

 

[golfer07840]

"And for today's Daily Race A we feature Ice skating on Grain Trails Garden.".

BTW, I still, for the life of me, do not understand how the DR works.

I wake up one day it's D with a score of 847, the next it's a D but with a score of 1. ??

 

[ThePotatoKing]

Well Race C. I used to have a good relationship with the circuit, but not in GTS . I tried 8 cars, and none of them I felt comfortable with. In the end the car that seemed to work, sort of, was the Beetle. Given the crappy laps I was doing, I was expecting to start the first position before the non-qualifiers. Was a little surprised to start P11. The grid was a mix of DR/B and C.

Made it through the first corner and focused mainly on just staying on the track. At one point I was in P8, which is where I was hoping to finish. Eventually I had someone knocking on my rear bumper and the way he was going, it was only a matter of time before he pushed me off, so I let him through. Only got 5 laps out of the bug, and the tyres felt a bit squiffy, so I changed boots and got under way. Coming up to the chicane before pitting, the guy behind me, who was also pitting, felt the need to ram me . I was barely able to stop from going off circuit, which was his opportunity to push past me so he could enter the pits a couple of tenths ahead of me .

There was a train of cars coming out of the pits, some of which went off at the first corner. I managed to make it up to P10, when the moron behind me on the final lap decided to try passing me in the chicane and pushed me into the on the sand on the exit, thus dropping me down to P12, where I finished.

DR dropped by about 40, SR back up to 99. Considering how uneasy I felt entering the race, I call this not a total disaster . Another day visiting DR/C .

Did you try the GTR ? It felt pretty good around Suzuka compared to other cars that i've tried there. And it was pretty fast too.

 

[Egghaus88]

Daily Race B is a mess today, why can't people learn that there are certain places to pass on a track? Even in a room full of A/S or better drivers it is still complete chaos. Just rage quit after getting a 10s penalty for being sandwiched between 2 cars after some idiot went 3 wide in the last turn. Seems like being a cautious driver in this game just gets you shafted every single time.

 

[05XR8]

Daily Race B is a mess today, why can't people learn that there are certain places to pass on a track? Even in a room full of A/S or better drivers it is still complete chaos. Just rage quit after getting a 10s penalty for being sandwiched between 2 cars after some idiot went 3 wide in the last turn. Seems like being a cautious driver in this game just gets you shafted every single time.

It's been a trying race for me. I made up spots, but then, I'm trusting drivers ahead of me, to keep pace. One player that was starting 2nd every race, posted for the lead driver to drive fast and not slow him up. I found that to be true.

I had a Megane RS driver ahead of me. He kept applying the brakes going Up the first esses. FF is not the best for this track, However, if that's the car he wants to use, either practice or move aside. Three races I was behind it and all three times, he's holding up the train of cars behind. I got knocked around. And later in the lap, three cars are trying to get around him.

 

[golfer07840]

Daily Race B is a mess today, why can't people learn that there are certain places to pass on a track? Even in a room full of A/S or better drivers it is still complete chaos. Just rage quit after getting a 10s penalty for being sandwiched between 2 cars after some idiot went 3 wide in the last turn. Seems like being a cautious driver in this game just gets you shafted every single time.

I am reaching a point where I'm wondering if being dirty is the way to go.

 

[speeeyskells]

While that same race B gave me my 1st ever race win (its shared in game if you want to have a little look) when the blue Megane had a 7 second penalty and I was 2nd across the line but moved up to race winner after the blue Megane was given the penalty (I also had a very small penalty that race therefore stopping my clean race bonus at 3 races)

 

[Mikail Hizal]

1:57.465 with the Renault gr3 at suzuka on todays daily race event ^^

 

[Sven Jurgens]

"And for today's Daily Race A we feature Ice skating on Grain Trails Garden.".

BTW, I still, for the life of me, do not understand how the DR works.

I wake up one day it's D with a score of 847, the next it's a D but with a score of 1. ??

First of all it's not an xp system, it goes up and down depending on how you finish compared to who else entered the race.

DR.D goes from 1 to 3,999
DR.C 4,000 to 9,999
DR.B 10,000 to 29,999
DR.A 30,000 to 49,999
DR.A+ 50,000 to 75,000

For every driver you beat you gain 80 points for every driver you finish behind you lose 80 points.

However the points you gain and lose are adjusted based on the difference in DR between you and the other driver.
If the winning driver has lower DR he gets more points 80 + (DR difference / 500) with a max of 160
If the winning driver has higher DR he get less points 80 - (DR difference / 500) with a min of 1
You exchange points this way with every other driver that started the race.
Disconnecting before the race is over (before it says results confirmed) counts as losing to everyone else.

Keep finishing in the top half and it should go up!

 

[Invisigoth]

Did you try the GTR ? It felt pretty good around Suzuka compared to other cars that i've tried there. And it was pretty fast too.

Not yet. I have one kicking around in my garage, but it just hasn't procured to me to use it. The AWD Gr4 version wasn't doing it for me, so I overlooked the Gr3 version.

 

[Krypton78]

Does anyone now for sure what door numbers are for? Is it just your DR ranking in the field?

 

[Famine]

Does anyone now for sure what door numbers are for? Is it just your DR ranking in the field?

It's not meaningless, and it is your DR score rank in the lobby (albeit alphabetical ranking rather than numerical, thus it's very wonky with DR scores below 10,000) - nothing to do with qualifying time or entry time. However, it's not overtly used in calculating your new DR score - that's governed by your finishing position and the DR of the drivers you beat and didn't beat relative to yours.


The door number should be taken as a guide as to where you should be expecting to finish as a minimum in order to gain DR. But even if you do, it won't guarantee it. If you're beaten by drivers with lower DR score, you'll likely lose DR unless you also beat drivers with a higher DR score.

 

[Krypton78]

@Famine Thanks!

Btw, had many races today in yamagiwa and suzuka. There was light and shadow. I think I won a race, but I was dead last also. My feeling was, in yamagiwa it took many races in a row before the lobby became less agressive and people calmed down. I guess when the half of the lobby are always the same guys, they hesitate to ram each other off.

 

[05XR8]

I am reaching a point where I'm wondering if being dirty is the way to go.

Well, I watch a bit of Virgin Australia Supercars. Many times, when cars are cornering, the driver behind gives a nudge ever so slightly on the rear corner of the car ahead. This unsettles the car just enough to allow thd driverf behind to get along side.
Other times, a driver out brakes an opponent and they rub panels front entry to exit of a corner.

In this game, a tap is equivalent to a ping pong slam. Many players know this. I try to read the player ahead and behind. When the race isn't frantic, I pick a line and hold it. This allows both of us to brake unimpeded and it leaves out the guess work fob the player behind. Countless times, this has not been the case. The driver behind still punts me, either by misjudging bumper distancev or out braking theirself.

Just watched six of my replays at Mr Miyagi. I see Trophy drivers are too aggressive. Megane RS drivers think the top end earns then the right to pass. STI drivers think awd means they can go full speed into corners and turn. Any other type car, races fair. Just kidding... but it's true.

Seriously, for me, I read the players. If I'm getting sneaky bumps when I've left plenty of room, I give it back. When I make mistakes, I back off. No doubt I had the same thoughts to be aggressive right after a few races. What I've done is put the controller down, watch some replays and then, get back in and start fresh.

 

[supervento]

Everyone has the right to mention how you were dirty and pushed the other person wide. Grow up. Accept responsibility for your actions. And no, I'm not defending the other drivers actions afterwards.

it's a funny answer and it's a story

 

[Krypton78]

The trick is, you must not show your opponent that youre an 100% dependable fair driver and you would never ram him intentionally off or divebomb him. There must be a rest of doupt in him what kind of driver you are. Because, if he after some laps knows he has nothing to be afraid of, he calmes more and more down and finds his pace.

That happened to me today in suzuka for example. I startet P2, the guy on pole had a very good qualy time. But when the race started, he was really nervous. I had to be very carefull not to push him off. At the end of lap2, pole guy obviously realized that he has no unfair attacks from me to expect, he found his pace and drove away...

 

[05XR8]

The trick is, you must not show your opponent that youre an 100% dependable fair driver and you would never ram him intentionally off or divebomb him. There must be a rest of doupt in him what kind of driver you are. Because, if he after some laps knows he has nothing to be afraid of, he calmes more and more down and finds his pace.

That happened to me today in suzuka for example. I startet P2, the guy on pole had a very good qualy time. But when the race started, he was really nervous. I had to be very carefull not to push him off. At the end of lap2, pole guy obviously realized that he has no unfair attacks from me to expect, he found his pace and drove away...

Exactly this. The example I gave, with that RCZ driver, some posts up. Once I made it known I wasn't attacking, we had fair exchanges over the rest of the race. At the same time, if players refrain from blocking, tensions lessen.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Suzuka is not my strongest in GR.3, far from it. My lap times are 2:03 at best yet matchmaking keeps placing me with much faster people. Which is fine, I wasn't qualifying anyway, just relaxed racing from the back. I thought I wasn't doing too badly, always gaining a bunch of positions, and never timing out, just not often making it into the top 10. So after 6 races I'm another 3K DR lighter, not so easy come, very easy go.

I was graced with one penalty from a car going wide on the way to the chicane at the end of the lap while bumping another car even wider, that car bumped him back causing him to spin and shoot straight into the wall in front of me. Unlucky for me I T-boned him right before he crashed into the wall, total crash for me and 4 sec penalty. Then race 5 seconds behind everyone else. I still gained a few positions since it was only lap 2 and no SR loss, just annoying to end up the worst of 2 others battling yet again.

Oh I tried the Ferrari Italia first. Not a good idea. With the accelerated tire wear you're more drifting than turning in lap 5. Fun to go sideways through corners, yet very inefficient. The rest I have been racing in the 911, old reliable, yet also got boring. Perhaps I'll take the Corvette out later tonight. It's fuel hog that corners nicely. If only I could take the R92CP out

Bring GR.2 Suzuka back, I'm much more competitive in that. Even in N300 I was much more competitive with the GT40. GR.3 has too many fast drivers! Mister Suzuka NZ* is currently racing, so winning is off the table for me for sure! I had not seen him in a while, back for a Suzuka winning streak no doubt. Good luck!

 

[eckie]

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