"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Rexracer702]

I'm usually terrible in Formula cars so I am going to stay away from Race C until I feel I can hang.

You are fast...I'm not sure who you're trying to hang with, but it's not me! I say race!

Just use the overtake to overtake, pit in the middle (lap 6) or maybe 7 if someone is really being an arse and then they pit in front of you on lap 6. Watch out for false starts too, you got to hold the brake until the lights go off otherwise you'll ruin your race before you even start, trust me I know.

Also watch out for people braking in Degner 1,enough do to cause a mess, it's bizarre. There's a few brake checkers out there too, one even gave away a 3rd place to try to stop me getting 2nd earlier and then intentionally took me out afterwards because he got a penalty for it.

Oh and don't forget to map the overtake button somewhere, I also stupidly did this today (on my 2nd account) too and it's much harder to clear cars without it.

Thanks for the tip. I only have about 3 partial laps from this morning, but I was taping the brake with a downshift. Didn't help that I missed the apex by 8 feet. Then I watched Lester's lap.

I feel like I'm falling behind in the race, and I haven't even raced yet! I'll have to try the Ferrari in the A race, and see how I can do. Who knows, maybe I can put on a bit of pressure late in the week. It could happen!

 

[O604]

Tried the Ferrari this morning for a race. Lots of fun. Amazing handling/braking car for 1961. Does it come in black?

QT 1:55.576 got me P8. Finished 7th. But lost DR.

Guess I have to work on the QT some more.

 

[nuu1212]

Race C with Honda... Best lap so far 1:38.634
BB was 2 in rear. Did not race yet, too tired for that.

Maybe we meet soon, I'm at 1.38.800 and up to DR B / SR S again - despite some questionable driving. But Suzuka just gives you so many SR+, it makes up for any mistakes you make.

I have it on 0, actually. The car is super stable and I feel quite confident on the brakes, so I haven’t played around with it too much.

BB +5 seems the way to go (in Race C). Would try +7 if possible...

Wow, this thread moves fast on a Monday. What's this about an overtake button? What does it do, how long does it last. Is this a real thing? Sort of sounds like an April fools joke

It really does. Press a button and even the dumbest can overtake cleanly.
To me it is just another of these hilarious translations/designations. Should have been "DRS/KERS/BOOST"
Like the ubiquitous "waiting for drivers to finish getting ready" instead of just "waiting", but the other way round.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I never know what to do with brake balance so just leave it at 0. Best time so far is 1:36.747, the car could probably go quicker in the race if you go for a full attack mode lap on fresh tyres.

I think this is the best/most fun car on GTS now.

 

[CrimsonKing]

Just 3 laps and a decent 1:54 but seeing 1:50 really freaks me out haha, got whole week to improve!

This game is beautiful!

 

[beegentoo]

Two more races: A and C.

I managed to improve my Q-time to a 1:57 which suprisingly put me on 5th on a mixed Grid of C and D. Do you remember when you were a kid and did something stupid with your bicycle and suddenly realized you would crash? You would then control your fall to make it as comfortable as possible. Racing this car is actually the same. It‘s more like controlled crashing instead of racing. Good for fun, but not meant to be serious. At least for me. Leaving the track on numerous instances I finally finished dead last, 2s before the timer reached 0.

Then Race C. Accidentally setting a Q-Lap of 1:51 (I went off two times when achieving this but missed a timely exit since the cat thought it would be a good idea to crawl onto my lap) I (luckily) started 19th. Suprise 1: Standing start. Power, Green Flag: Spin. 2nd Gear: Spin (I had moved about 3 meters by then). Then I really started moving. About 2 seconds later I saw cars moving all over the track; in any direction; then I drove through a cloud of car parts and all five Distance-Boards appraching T1. My brake marker was also in there. Gaining from all this mess I was 11th by the end of lap one. In lap 2 I was closing to a different car but I would not be able to use the overtake button. It just turned red. I have not figured out why I wasn‘t allowed. But since this car-track-combination is way too fast and hectic for my taste and since I‘m up for almost 18 hours I slowly fell back to 18th where I finished. Not sure about this. I like fast cars but actual races with them is not mine; I lack the reaction times and feeling in my fingers.

There‘s really much need to improve this week (or finish reading my current book, pick up my guitars, cleaning my car, listen to music, etc. etc.)

 

[Sven Jurgens]

It really does. Press a button and even the dumbest can overtake cleanly.
To me it is just another of these hilarious translations/designations. Should have been "DRS/KERS/BOOST"
Like the ubiquitous "waiting for drivers to finish getting ready" instead of just "waiting", but the other way round.

So erm, doesn't it cancel itself out when the person that's about to get passed presses the button as well? Or is there some sort of delay to prevent that. Turbo boost in GTS, hmm. I found this whole hybrid power already kinda nonsense. Anything to get more action on the track I guess.


The results are in, thanks to @jasguer excellent way to track race results!

I finished a total of 129 races on the N24 last week, thanks to two marathon runs on the weekend of 26 races on both Saturday and Sunday. That raised my total on that track to 462, combined with 657 races on the Nordschleife, 1,119 total races in green heaven, 16% of my total race count. That track is so addictive! Mount Panorama sits at nr. 2 with 706 races completed.

Friday is still the cleanest day to race. Monday was surprisingly good for SR, probably due to people not knowing the track yet and going off early without doing any harm. Tuesday they learned the track, just not where to brake. Saturday had the most aggressive drivers and bumpers.

A clean race was worth at most 12 SR (in SR.S) and my biggest drop was -17 in one race. That was the first race on Sunday, not awake enough yet to avoid the bumpers. Overall no problem to stay in SR.S.

Most people had qualified on Sunday, which also had the toughest competition. Wednesday also had a lot of qualifiers, then it went down again with more people entering without a time in the next 3 days. (I did not count the 5 races I did after qualifying on Sunday night)

Despite the tougher competition on Sunday, it was my best day for gaining positions. The trick is again a more even field so no large gaps open up without anyone to draft. Tuesday was the worst where I frequently got punted off in the GP section to be in last again entering the Nord. Saturday was bad as well yet the extra aggression usually ended up in the ditch somewhere.

 

[nuu1212]

Is this now the "Last week's race" thread?
Interesting stats, though!

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Finally got 1:57.678 on Lago Maggiore with the 911 RSR. Not gonna lie, this kinda stressed me out.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Top two times in Asia (Edit: sub 1:51) for Race A have countersteer assist on. Filthy.

 

[ASH32]

I never know what to do with brake balance so just leave it at 0. Best time so far is 1:36.747, the car could probably go quicker in the race if you go for a full attack mode lap on fresh tyres.

I think this is the best/most fun car on GTS now.

I've tried a few -2, 0, +2 and now +5, don't think there's much difference at all. Oh and I knew when I saw your race pace what sort of qualifying time you could get and I can't see that sort of time being possible in the race unless you are one of the 1'36.1 and under guys but who knows, I've been wrong before and no doubt will be again.

Also I agree with it being fun, even when I'm accidently getting a dumb penalty and spinning into the barriers. It's still fun even running from the back with the odd idiot in midfield hellbent on ruining the racing.

 

[Darwock]

Racing for DR gain is stupid, as your DR rank exist only to place you with people of similar abilities.

That might be the theory, but I am never placed with people of similar abilities.

It's SR that counts, not DR. With SR99 I am placed in races where I am way out of my league. With SR50 I am often contending for wins.

All DR seems to do is determine how many DR points I gain or lose.

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

@Sven, 26 races each day, so 13 hours each day. Holy...

 

[ntanygd760]

No clue if it because the car is faster than last week but race A seems to be cleaner after doing 5 of them. Maybe the penalty thing is working or I am imagining it. The races were in SR:B fwiw.

 

[JakeJortles]

Yes the car is beautifully balanced but I find myself struggling a lot through the hairpin.. I have tried 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear, and it it still felt slow.. The +5 brake bias helped a lot with the rotation of the car and I don't at all suffer from oversteer as I thought I would...

Thanks for your input man...

So I actually tried this and it worked like an absolute charm. I got my quali time down to a 1:37:830, and I can confirm that the car handles much better around the slower corners while remaining absolutely planted for the rest of the lap. In the end, I landed at +4.


I did four more races this evening and finished with a 2nd, 3rd, another 2nd and a win. The first three races were all marred by me making small mistakes that did not involve others, occasionally getting bumped off the track (particularly in the 3rd-place race), and getting some bona fide BS penalties. The worst offenders were me hitting a car spinning in front of me in the sidepod at the exit of the hairpin (no chance to do anything about that, but 2s nonetheless) and some very minor contact out of the final chicane on the first lap in the third race (4s penalty for getting hit while on the outside kerb by the car on the inside spinning out all on its own). Considering I was only 1.5s behind at the line, I’m pretty sure that one actually cost me the win.

On the upside, all of that reduced my SR by such an amount (from 99 to 86) that I got sorted into a slightly weaker lobby for my final attempt. Some other A-rated drivers, one A+ maybe, but mostly Bs and Ds. Cue me getting in my only darn near perfect run of the day and a very well deserved, if I dare say so myself, Grand Slam with the Clean Race bonus. I won that one by 27s (overall time was 20:20.624), which felt nice but was nowhere near the actual performance gap, so I‘ll probably have to check my replay to see where the opposition went wrong.

Incidentally, because of the big gap I actually had the time and space to do a little testing regarding the Overtake boost. My fastest lap on fresh tires and with liberal application of the boost was a 1:37.602, with a bit of a safety margin left. My next best effort (without boost) was a 1:39.406. So I suppose that, if dialed up to 11, the boost can get you around 2s worth of laptime. Given that I used up around a third of my allocated boost in that lap, the theoretical overall gain should be somewhere in the region of 5-7s, depending on where and how you use it.

All in all, my efforts today raised my DR by a solid 5300 points to a new all-time high of 37324. It‘s a shame I probably won‘t be able to do any more races this week.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I've tried a few -2, 0, +2 and now +5, don't think there's much difference at all. Oh and I knew when I saw your race pace what sort of qualifying time you could get and I can't see that sort of time being possible in the race unless you are one of the 1'36.1 and under guys but who knows, I've been wrong before and no doubt will be again.

I think it's definitely possible but only if you're not racing properly, the best I got down to was a 1:37.0 but that was just holding the boost down all lap on an otherwise normal strategy. If you stopped at the end of lap 10 and cruised around on the outlap to start the final lap with perfect unworn tyres and 1 lap of fuel in the tank I'm sure you would find the extra time. I just used my time as an example I think the same logic applies to everybodies race vs qualifying times. It was nice racing against you earlier, I agree with what you say about the midfield though, their are some right nutters in there.

btw I'm surprised the party mode doesn't affect the fuel consumption (as far as I can tell), it seems like a bit of an oversight from PD.

 

[Melbourne Park]

Top two times in Asia (Edit: sub 1:51) for Race A have countersteer assist on. Filthy.

Hah hah ... I had it on for initial qualifying for the Nordshleife 24 hours full track ... but I forgot to turn it off. It's actually slower to have it on in a GR3 car in most instances. But it's handy if you spin out while familiarising with the track and the car. But if you leave it on, the car doesn't respond well to lifting the accelerator ie lift off the power and the tail doesn't move out as much. That means you need rougher wheel action to turn the car. For instance at the first corner of the 24 hour race in the GP track, the car doesn't turn as easily into the corner. Then, the next critical left corner, the car is very difficult to turn there with counter steer on. That's in the 911. I did not do many laps at all and with it off ( or for that matter its it on). But my qualifying laps with it off I was a lot faster - I was over a second faster when I sent under the bridge which at 1:16 seconds - after the initial S's on the actual Nordschleif track. But ... the car felt so different, I spun on a couple of attempts later on and then I just gave up. I had a decent time going too - maybe a high 8:13 - but quit with my counter steer time of 8:16.043 ...

One thing that is great about counter steer assistance is when you get pushed off the track in a race. With it on, you can steer on the grass and get back onto the track most times. With me driving if I get hit off the track without counter steering on weak, I normally waste a huge amount of time trying to get back onto the track. But not with counter steer on weak. So IMO it's a legitimate racing aid to counter races where there are bashing drivers. I just wish it was easy to turn on and off.

I've seen many top 10s in Asia with all sorts of aids on. But sometimes a very top driver - doesn't have anything on.

I think if one complains about using a game's aid such as counter steering aid - then it's hypocritical if one is using one on one's own car. Such as the ABS aid.

Incidentally around Suzuka, I am much quicker with ABS aid off - except for the hairpin corner 11 180 degree corner which is very slow. For me i cannot yet modulate the brakes when there is no downforce ie at low speed. ABS weak is an electronic aid and its there so why not use it if it helps?

 

[nuu1212]

Everybody knows (should know) that CSA is way faster on average because you can take lots of risk and get saved by the system most of the time...

 

[Sven Jurgens]

@Sven, 26 races each day, so 13 hours each day. Holy...

Yes, it's a lot. However it's more the game is running for 13 hours. The races last 17 minutes each and I usually don't show up until the final countdown starts. Still that's 7.4 hours of actual racing I haven't raced yet today, too tired

Ugh dammit, so tired I accidentally qualified It was just my first lap (after some practice in GT League earlier) and I hope 1:43 is still bad enough to start at the back. Can't erase and it's only Monday ugh. First race 17 of 18, no worries.

And yep, just as I feared. I get bump passed, dude dives on my inside in T2, rams me off yet I get a 4 sec penalty and slowed down to a crawl. I'll give it another try, yet wtf PD. The offending driver dropped to SR.A. He probably ended up behind me because of the penalty zone lol.

Second race went better, no penalties this time. Also no penalties for the two cars that bumped me off... I finished 11th, very strong room, lots of A+. One of the A+ guys got put behind me due to the penalty zone. Soon he was bumping on my back (don't look at what you want to avoid... meaning my bumper). I remembered the magic boost button (had not used yet) and used that to stay out of range of his nose.

Back to A/S. A+ gone. My best lap time was only 1:41, leader 1:37. I need more time with the car and steering lag. My old tv might just be too slow for this car :/

 

[slthree]

Excited to get home today from my anniversary vacation and fire up the game and immediately purchase the Honda super formula car for Race C

I ran about 12 laps in qualifying which certainly was nowhere near enough, I know. but, I was anxious to race with it

It was a most embarrassing race because after lap 6 I could not find the entrance to pit row. I was reset FOUR different times looking for that entrance. It is a miracle, or somebody just didn't finish the game, that I moved up one position from 18 to 17

I don't think I'm going back to that track because the leaders were just flying

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

To me it is just another of these hilarious translations/designations. Should have been "DRS/KERS/BOOST"

I'm pretty sure IndyCar calls their boost button "push-to-pass" which is a more hilarious translation and that's only been translated from English into English.

It's a nice aid to the racing and is totally fair to everybody in the race unlike DRS so I'm a fan.

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

Preliminary laps for race C, 1:50.409 Optimal 1:47.611 so definitely work to do. Long stupid monday. See ya tomorrow.

 

[nuu1212]

I'm pretty sure IndyCar calls their boost button "push-to-pass" which is a more hilarious translation and that's only been translated from English into English.

LOL
I hope this is only for TV purposes, not the instruction for the drivers (no IQ certificate required in IndyCar, right!?)

 

[Voodoovaj]

No clue if it because the car is faster than last week but race A seems to be cleaner after doing 5 of them. Maybe the penalty thing is working or I am imagining it. The races were in SR:B fwiw.

Seems like Race B is cleaner too.

I drove two laps of the Super Formula at Suzuka and decided that it just isn't going to happen for me. Nope. Not going to go there. I've spent the last few weeks getting my rating back in shape and that race looks like it's going to tank my rating if I look at it the wrong way.

I might just stick to Race B

 

[ShiftingGears]

LOL
I hope this is only for TV purposes, not the instruction for the drivers (no IQ certificate required in IndyCar, right!?)

Good news you're now eligible

 

[Shearzy]

Good news you're now eligible

 

[MortosDer]

That feeling of disappointment when you're .005 from top ten. Lower your time by almost three tenths to 37.5 Get excited and then find out that top ten went down to 37.3.

 

[leaves_2B]

That feeling of disappointment when you're .005 from top ten. Lower your time by almost three tenths to 37.5 Get excited and then find out that top ten went down to 37.3.

There's no 1:37s in the Top 10 here in Asia... The 10th in my region is 1:36.661 🤬

 

[kjeldsen]

Yes, it's a lot. However it's more the game is running for 13 hours. The races last 17 minutes each and I usually don't show up until the final countdown starts. Still that's 7.4 hours of actual racing I haven't raced yet today, too tired

Ugh dammit, so tired I accidentally qualified It was just my first lap (after some practice in GT League earlier) and I hope 1:43 is still bad enough to start at the back. Can't erase and it's only Monday ugh. First race 17 of 18, no worries.

And yep, just as I feared. I get bump passed, dude dives on my inside in T2, rams me off yet I get a 4 sec penalty and slowed down to a crawl. I'll give it another try, yet wtf PD. The offending driver dropped to SR.A. He probably ended up behind me because of the penalty zone lol.

Second race went better, no penalties this time. Also no penalties for the two cars that bumped me off... I finished 11th, very strong room, lots of A+. One of the A+ guys got put behind me due to the penalty zone. Soon he was bumping on my back (don't look at what you want to avoid... meaning my bumper). I remembered the magic boost button (had not used yet) and used that to stay out of range of his nose.

Back to A/S. A+ gone. My best lap time was only 1:41, leader 1:37. I need more time with the car and steering lag. My old tv might just be too slow for this car :/

Have you ever done a hard day of qualifying, just to see how far up you could go.
And then race from that during the week..

 

[banckzy]

Wow, all I can say is super formula is epic! hands down best racing I've ever had on GTS and I've had almost 1000 sport mode races.

Only had time for two races and about half hour of qualy. lapped 1:38:500 but know I've got 1.37 in me. Will work on this later this week as I'm working late tonight so cant play.

The undercutting you can acheive through short shifting and not refueling was a real bonus for me, gained a few places on that. Saved most of the overtake button til the end which I think helped too, as somebody on here mentioned yesterday.

Both races had a nightmare in lap 1, absolute chaos lol Got a 4 second penalty because I hit the guy in front who broke too early, few bumps here and there but I still got blue SR at the end of the race, so I think it's quite lenient for that which is good because cars that close at that speed, its inevitable that contact will happen.

Can't wait for the next session now, which for me will be Wednesday.