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I'd feel quite happy doing my best and staying as clean as I could with As and Bs if I got some sort of affirmation from the game for it, and no one got angry if I got my line wrong into a corner. But I'm also really happy for you to have your own space where you don't get us D drivers sitting in the middle of the track getting in your way - I'm not blocking, I'm staying as far away from the grass as I can!

Or I'd love to mix it with a bunch of D's who were fair and respectful. And if we make a mistake (as we do regularly because we're not brilliant) or we genuinely get beaten by better drivers we aren't punished for it.

Unfortunately, the way the ranking works at moment, there's no happy middle ground. I have a couple of bad races, sometimes through no fault of my own and all progress and hardwork is lost. So why bother?

Give me some sort of long term cumulative average and see where I stand.
 
Pigems
I’m using the two orange pyramid shaped things on the left side of the track, I’m not sure what they are but they work well. ;)
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if it can help someone the Best breaking point is the one close tho your eyes are supposed to be at this moment English is not my first language hope u understand what i write loll i have learn tha from Jim Russell open wheel driving academy couples years ago ;)
 
Dorofint
Somehow, the combination of medium to low DR and high SR seems to be rare. Such classified players have a hard time finding really balanced races.
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My DR is rarely above 1, and SR usually in the 90s. You are 100% correct. The races I'm in usually have someone win by 10 to 15 seconds, 2nd thru 5th another 15 back, and the rest of the field not finishing the final lap. Generally I can tell where I'll finish before the race starts, and its usually not in the top 10. I've gotten used to it.
 
Dorofint
The matchmaking is not good. And it is getting worse because the numbers of players are falling. It would be great if we could all drive with players who are exactly on our level. But that works less and less because there are often too few players. I am DR B, SR S. When my SR is between 99 and 95 I am basically abused to fill up DR S and A races. Then I start on rank 17-20 and have no chance for a good result. If my SR falls below 95 or even SR A or B, I usually drive with drivers as fast as myself. But then the races will be much dirtier. No matter what, matchmaking is never ideal for me. Somehow, the combination of medium to low DR and high SR seems to be rare. Such classified players have a hard time finding really balanced races.
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Race B surprised me yesterday evening. I actually got some C/S to D/S races after my DR dropped all the way to 8K. It still had fast people on pole, but at least disguised as DR.C. Earlier it was the usual A+/S to D/S stuff. In the morning you get SR.A or lower added to fill the room.

The last measurement from kp is from April 29, 22K daily active players. The last peak was 36k on the Saturday before. That comes to between 580 and 950 daily active players in the Americas between 90 and 99 SR with 192 races to fill. And naturally the fastest people that get many uncontested pole positions will all be at max SR.

DR 1 players contribute DR to the total DR pool though. They put extra points into the system which causes average DR to rise over time. It's not a zero sum game at the bottom, DR.1 players still hand out points they don't have. The average on KP is still going up and DR points are getting worth less over time. Every time you don't gain points as a DR.1 player, know that you make that 75K limit a bit less special :lol:
 
Pigems
Ok there’s the problem, mines only got 1400hp(imagine, ONLY 1400hp :lol: ), I’ve got the wrong one. TYVM. :)

Edit: Got the Right one now, Wow!!! :drool:
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This takes me back to my first day of GT Sport. I bought the special edition that came with the Gr.1 Tomahawk, saw a Tomahawk lobby and entered in to race. I thought, "Alright! We'll race Tomahawks! I have a Tomahawk!"

I did not have that Tomahawk.

EDIT: I took a stab at Daily Race A and it's not for me, it seems. I cannot run that car consistently at that track, which is a shame as I do normally enjoy driving my Audi TT Cup.
 
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Had a few enjoyable Race C's (Fuji) last night & early hours of this morning. Handful of podiums, but no wins 👎

Final race, started 2nd but allowed 3rd place to take the inside line on T1 to avoid getting dive bombed. Real close racing between the two of us for all 9 laps, swapping positions and very consistent, clean racing from us both. That is until I got great run out of the final corner on the last lap, breezed up behind him and, yep, you've guessed it, he slams on his brakes and with a classic brake check. End result, he disappears off to claim 2nd place and I fortunately retain 3rd about 2.5-3secs down from him.

(He then thanks me for the clean race in the chat. Most of my responses were less friendly.)

Thing is, with the penalty zones introduced on daily races, I can't really think of any reason for (hard) braking on the main straight outside of a genuine braking zone. Surely it would follow that PD can incorporate this into their penalty system with relative ease and without too many drawbacks?
 
Sven Jurgens
DR 1 players contribute DR to the total DR pool though. They put extra points into the system which causes average DR to rise over time. It's not a zero sum game at the bottom, DR.1 players still hand out points they don't have. The average on KP is still going up and DR points are getting worth less over time. Every time you don't gain points as a DR.1 player, know that you make that 75K limit a bit less special :lol:
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Made a new livery so you all know what you're dealing with......
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I finally dipped my toe in race C yesterday. I like the GT86 better with the hard tyre. It's a lot easier to control the slip angle in the slow corners. People were mostly friendly and playful as well.
Sven Jurgens
The average on KP is still going up and DR points are getting worth less over time. Every time you don't gain points as a DR.1 player, know that you make that 75K limit a bit less special :lol:
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Cries in macroeconomics.
 
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Yep this weekend is gonna be a little tough to squeeze gt into. Thats for sure.

I wish the dailies could be as interesting as the FIA races. I was all amped up to finally do a try or two last nightn Gr1 at dragon trail :O
and a good'ol Gr3 Kyoto slog out.

But the clouds opened up and my buddy sends me a text 2 hours before work ends. "Pitch n Putt?" No doubt about it of course Im going

Get home hoping to enjoy some good racing and realise the last race I can do is 7pm for the manu series...

How the hell is the west coast even supposed the try competing in the series if the final race is at 7
I dont even get home from work until 630 some days :indiff: 👎
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No racing last night. Tried qualifying with a few cars but I wasn't feelin it. Just couldn't string a lap together, and the T1/2 combo was giving me a hard time. Figured it was safer to give it a miss as the level of frustration rose. Tonight I gave Race B a go with the Z4. Couln't quite match my R8 time, but optimum was better, so I didn't feel guilty starting with my R8 time. The match fixing erm I mean race matching gods must have been smiling on me because I started P4/15 on an all DR/D grid except for the DR/B sinner on pole.

Starting in a strait line is a nice place to be :lol:. I'd go along with the assessment that P1-P6 get that privilege. Fangin it down the strait and the Z4 was staring to reel in the guy in front.. don't remember what his ride was. I still managed to avoid hitting anyone at T1/2, but it was pretty messy... except fro the guy on pole :rolleyes:. I had a guy behind me being very patient. He poked his nose in a few times, then when I went a bit wide, made his move for a clean pass. Well done sir!

On the third lap I had a guy in front with a penalty try the same trick I've seen posted earlier... pulled in front of me whilst ghosted... but it was a bad idea, ill conceived and poorly executed. Too early... I drove on through :p. I had made it through 3 laps with no penalties when disaster. I got my entry to the first corner of the final chicane too late and ended up taking a bite out of the exit... 0.5s penalty as I started the final lap. I was struggling a bit for the whole race trying to adjust to the lack of front end bite race vs qualy. In the end I finished P5... I'll take that :dopey:!

SR up another 2... 2 to go. Whoohoo! DR went up 500. Another day above DR 1 :D.
 
Definitely loved the PSN ID change, finally I could clear away my silly ID after a decade!

Race B, Round 1: Grid P11 Race P3 - Great start forming up the main straight, had a few lucky moves though I accidentally knocked someone off track while sliding. Gave back the position, and wanted to apologize to him post-race but he kind of rage quitted after ramming into a couple of players and creating chain collisions behind. Left with no choice but to pursue the front runners in the next 3 laps, some tight battle in the technical sections despite running a detuned and heavier car. The supercharger kind of did its trick keeping up with the straight line speed.
Last lap was the key, when we were all fighting for the podium, that's when the final sector had 2 front runners going wide and hitting each other. Snatched the last podium and held on to it for the next 6 corners to the chequered flag.

Race B, Round 2: Grid P13 Race P5 - First lap was a little big on the gap due to my no-time qualifying. But managed to keep up and overtake my first few victims in the first lap, thanks to their torpedo skills, Zen landscaping and lawn-mowing abilities. Not to mention the yellow hats queuing up to serve their penalties.
Next few laps were quite the battle with P6 and P7 until a random rocket from Hong Kong pushed me into the gravel, and magically disappeared from the race with a DNF (karma!), this is then followed by the same midfielders who are seconds ahead of me getting thrown overboard and out-braking themselves into the wrong chicane. Definitely we do not have penalty lane like in MotoGP!
Last lap was the magic when I slipstreamed another Supra to take P5 for the rest of the lap, almost caught up with the front but decided to go a little easy to keep my tires going smoothly.
 
Sven Jurgens
Race B surprised me yesterday evening. I actually got some C/S to D/S races after my DR dropped all the way to 8K. It still had fast people on pole, but at least disguised as DR.C. Earlier it was the usual A+/S to D/S stuff. In the morning you get SR.A or lower added to fill the room.

The last measurement from kp is from April 29, 22K daily active players. The last peak was 36k on the Saturday before. That comes to between 580 and 950 daily active players in the Americas between 90 and 99 SR with 192 races to fill. And naturally the fastest people that get many uncontested pole positions will all be at max SR.

DR 1 players contribute DR to the total DR pool though. They put extra points into the system which causes average DR to rise over time. It's not a zero sum game at the bottom, DR.1 players still hand out points they don't have. The average on KP is still going up and DR points are getting worth less over time. Every time you don't gain points as a DR.1 player, know that you make that 75K limit a bit less special :lol:
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I think some DR “reset” points go back into the overall pool? They might partially off set the DR1 points that are continually getting added. I don’t think they all get divided up amongst the other drivers in that race where someone got reset.

I made it up to A/S for a few days, pretty proud o myself, but man do the lobbies get harder, especially in FIA. Happily back to B now.

Whole new appreciation for opportunities to bleed SR w/o messing up someone else (unless they deliberately mess my race up first)... bump draft me please!:)
 
JPW802
I think some DR “reset” points go back into the overall pool? They might partially off set the DR1 points that are continually getting added. I don’t think they all get divided up amongst the other drivers in that race where someone got reset.

I made it up to A/S for a few days, pretty proud o myself, but man do the lobbies get harder, especially in FIA. Happily back to B now.

Whole new appreciation for opportunities to bleed SR w/o messing up someone else (unless they deliberately mess my race up first)... bump draft me please!:)
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Yes those points leave the pool, as well as any points earned by a player that's already at the 75K limit. However DR.1 players are legion, 75K players are but a handful, and DR resets do not outweigh the points added by DR.1 players. KP tracks the average DR and it's still going up. Average SR is in a slight decline, that probably depends heavily on the weekly race selection.
 
Oshawa-Joe
First time in a very long time I was on track with @sturk0167

Good to see you!
I cant belive I spun in the last sector lol!
Still got almost 400DR so not bad. And blue SR, that's good right?
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I just looked at the race C leader board. My mind was blown when I saw that guys have done 2:04s there. :bowdown: I think I'll need to watch some replays to see what the hell they're doing with the gears. I've only done the race with A/T. No friends to race from the back with. :( I guess I'll work on doing some Q laps. Also. there's a guy who's in the 2:06s that I need to get on my outside when my car is going to suddenly under-steer. :mischievous:

@Oshawa-Joe, @Mistah_MCA, @Pigems, @suprajef, fantastic laps!
 
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sturk0167
I just looked at the race C leader board. My mind was blown when I saw that guys have done 2:04s there. :bowdown: I think I'll need to watch some replays to see what the hell they're doing with the gears. I've only done the race with A/T. No friends to race from the back with. :( I guess I'll work on doing some Q laps. Also. there's a guy in the 2:06s that I need to get on my outside when my car is going to suddenly under-steer. :mischievous:

@Oshawa-Joe, @Mistah_MCA, @Pigems, @suprajef, fantastic laps!
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Thanks man, I thought the same thing when I saw that 04, like how the heck did he do that? It’s such a smooth looking lap too, doesn’t even look like he was trying. Even after seeing it a couple times I still can’t figure out how it’s so much faster. :lol:

But I guess in reality, it’s a huge momentum combo and he carried it around EXTREMELY well. :)
 
Did one race A, started p3 finished p5. Made mistake in uphill braking at 3rd last corner, and went wide. luckily the 5 front cars were 4sec in front of the rest of the pack and I didnt lost more positions. After race the p4 driver said something to me, not sure what he meant. Here is replay of me defending my corner in hairpin. What do you think? To me that was ok move for defend my corner, he run in my rear bumber.
No complaints how he was driving, clean driver for sure. And not sure if this is what he meant...



Did also take few laps in Race B qualy, with R8. That track is reallllly technical, blind corners etc. Not my favourite for sure.
Now, did the PD change the handling of the cars??? I love how the R8 handles, only over all grip could be better, little slippery there.
Like Pigems said, if you spinn, its possible to go 360, and its possible to catch oversteer. YESSS finally OVERSTEER :D
Qualy time for race B 1:47.325. Lots of mistakes were made, so really happy with that. :)

 
sdi_03
Here is replay of me defending my corner in hairpin. What do you think? To me that was ok move for defend my corner, he run in my rear bumber.
No complaints how he was driving, clean driver for sure. And not sure if this is what he meant...
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Personally if I would have defended in this situation I would keep the inner line instead of coming from the outside to the inside. But apart of the defense (what I think was not needed) your drivingline was beter then his. I think his intention was trying to pass you from the inside. And I think this is his fault looking at the distance between you guys and his positioning. So you did good imo.

Edit: Looked at your replay a couple of times more. Second thought. I think that you kinda “cut him off” looking at his speed and when he was braking. I think I would have stayed at the outterline and let him pass. Not entirely sure tho looking at the distance between you guys when you went to the inside.
 
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Pigems
Thanks man, I thought the same thing when I saw that 04, like how the heck did he do that? It’s such a smooth looking lap too, doesn’t even look like he was trying. Even after seeing it a couple times I still can’t figure out how it’s so much faster. :lol:

But I guess in reality, it’s a huge momentum combo and he carried it around EXTREMELY well. :)
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There are 4 of them, now! Looks like you've got work to do. :lol:
 
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