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ktsbence
Race C is a lot of fun! :cheers:
Did one race B, started from P15 beacuse I didn't run a qualy lap (or not an actual competitive one :lol:).
Saw all of the carnage unfold, didn't have the pace either, also it's pretty much a Supra and GT-R one make. I don't like either of those cars (Turbocharged cars are a little too tail happy for me :lol:) so I don't think it'll be a Race that I'll run a lot.

Race C is awesome! :cool:
Close and fun racing, I tried the F-Type (what else? :dopey:) only managed one stops for fuel, others were doing one stops as well.
In Race 1, started 6th finished 3rd.
Race 2, started 8th and finished 1st :cheers:.
Will try other cars tomorrow, maybe even do a no stop, who knows? :crazy:
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Give the Genesis a try on Race B.

I'm not terribly quick, but managed to get a 1:35.5 qualy time in it.

On my alt account where I don't qualify, finishing anywhere from 5th to 8th with the Genesis.

The Evo is also pretty handy around this track, but it's a turbo, so may not be for you.
 
Race C can be funny if you qualify well enough to stay away from those dirty Meganes. Seriously, 9 out of 10 in those are dirty.
Did a 2:04.7 in my Toyota 86 which got me right in the battle with said dirty Meganes. Lost 1.7k in DR yesterday thanks to those in like 3 races.
Today my first race went the same, although the outcome wasn't as bad and managed to gain 50 DR with P8 or something. Then I decided to not do the next race and instead focused on Quali. Chose the Lexus and got my time down to 2:04.0 (had I combined my best sectors could've been 2:03.7).
The next race I started 2nd. Got overtaken early and then stayed in his slipstream. Later on he let me pass again to save fuel, which caused two cars to overtake me again in the last lap. P4. No stops. Was able to stay in Mix 1 with short shifting and lift & coast into corners.
 
I'm not bothering with Race C after all. Did some testing and qualies yesterday and almost fell asleep at Schumacher with the RCZ. I was really hoping it'd force a pit, but since it's another no-stop I'll pass. Besides, I forgot how FREAKING fun Kyoto is. Lapping the AMG around it for now, but I may dress up a Mitsu for fun. I don't use enough TB cars in Gr3.
 
Vegard
Ummm, 1500 rpm short is crazy short :lol:
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lol I’m actually not positive. I based it on my LED RPM readout on my Fanatec shifting just before it goes blue.

I’ve seen some CRAZY short shifters who are shifting at around 5k RPM. I don’t even look at fuel till lap 3, then I conserve when I can in case I need to do a late battle.

I tried to do the NSX but you have to go extremely slow to make it work.
 
Penalty nonsense and yobbish behaviour now seems to be the accepted practice in race C.

No passing attempts without a punt. Constant tapping if you dare be alongside. Matching a total mess with A and A+ finding themselves in D races. People causing accidents and the victims receive time penalties.

I wonder if the FIA are aware of the “arcade mentality” their name is associated with?
 
Like most of these N200 races, Goodwood is a little rough at times. I ran it 4-5 times tonight and I was never able to make a clean go. A couple of the times were my fault, but I also got bumped off. I think 1:28s might be possible by the end of the week. The chicane is still by far my shakiest section.

I ran some cursory laps at the other tracks. I’m not sure I’ll have a lot of time to learn them this week.
 
Is it a safe assumption that AWD and the Slophy is the way to go for Race C judging by the Top 10 times in the Americas? I took my 'Vette around there and I can't even get within 3s of the top time, when usually I'm only around 2s off the pace at a track this size. I've been frustrated with how PD BOP'd it to be "middle-of-the-road" in every aspect, meaning it's NEVER the car to have at any track, but I shouldn't be THIS slow in it.
beegentoo
Avoid the META while accepting you will probably not win but laugh about people using it because they think this car has some magic abilities not requiring any driving skills.
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Funnily enough, I took an SR hit after a collision with a spinning car on the opening lap (despite the rest of the race being clean), and found myself as 1 of 2 A-rank DR players in the next Race B with lower DR drivers, and my Corvette on pole. I walked away from a train of Supras and ended up winning by 6s. Probably the only time I'll win with my favorite Gr. 3/4 car this week...or month...
 
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Just had two great races in C. One I got hit and into someone at T3, snagged a 4sec penalty dropped me to 6th but fought back to 3rd (started P2).

Next race same group and fantastic race with Bdub something, we were back and forth while pacing each other on fuel strategy. I attacked at the end but couldn’t pull it off, finished .2 behind him.

EDIT: did 2 more, one 2nd and close finish. The other just won with a 19:05 time.

EDIT: Going for 1 more. Might have smoked too much....
 
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When I race at NGP put all 458's power on the track (well, not all power. Shifting up in 8500 RPM sometimes)
Enter to pits in the end of the 5th lap with refuel and tires change
With fresh tires and all power i make a good fight at final laps
 
One big trick to the one stop is if you can stay in the draft of a 1 stopper doing 2:06/7’s and save fuel while still putting in 1 stopper times.

@bdubclub awesome race with you! Again apologies on T1 that one race, I hadn’t come up behind that car before didn’t realize it takes awhile to stop lol. Total misjudgment on my part, and I’m glad I waited because those last 3 laps were amazing.

1 more run then bed. Closing in on 65k
 
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Give the Genesis a try on Race B.

I'm not terribly quick, but managed to get a 1:35.5 qualy time in it.

On my alt account where I don't qualify, finishing anywhere from 5th to 8th with the Genesis.

The Evo is also pretty handy around this track, but it's a turbo, so may not be for you.
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Thank you for the recommendation! :cheers:
Might give it a try, but I don't think I'll race in B this week, people are being too aggressive. Also I'm enjoying Race C a lot more, and don't want to participate in a Supra and GT-R one make race.
How's the Gr. 4 Genesis?
 
Hi! I got question, you guys saying about door number on car, how does it affects DR gain/loss? For example if I got number 1 and finish race 2nd I loose DR?
About dailies, C is GREAT! I love races where fuel saving matters. Set 2.06,3xx in Lexus, doing only no stopper, short shifting + FM managing on straight before last chikane, usually allows me to save enough fuel to run 9th lap on full throttle. Fantastic week:)

I checked my QT and its 2.06,230, not big difference but Im faster than I remember;)
 
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Hmmm, Race C... it's not really boring, but it doesn't "feel" like any type of racing. Cars do pit and some no-stop, but it felt stale. The crazy thing is, I had not one incident with anyone. Close racing and I wasn't pushed off, or divebombed. The player that kept finishing 1st in the Slophy,we developed a quick mutual respect for position exchanges.

About the German cars. SLS was the best for pace. The Scirocco, Cayman and TT had best fuel economy. I changed tyres in the FF cars and changed tyres in the M4. In the M4 race, I had enough time to do that(about 10 seconds ahead of 3rd at the time of my pit stop).

Welp, back to the Supra.

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Hmmm, Race C... it's not really boring, but it doesn't "feel" like any type of racing. Cars do pit and some no-stop, but it felt stale. The crazy thing is, I had not one incident with anyone. Close racing and I wasn't pushed off, or divebombed. The player that kept finishing 1st in the Slophy,we developed a quick mutual respect for position exchanges.
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It's like modern F1. Fuel and tyre saving is a different kind of racing. Not better, either.
 
LVS_1986
Hi! I got question, you guys saying about door number on car, how does it affects DR gain/loss? For example if I got number 1 and finish race 2nd I loose DR?
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For some strange reason people seem to think the number PD assigns you has magical properties and that somehow if you finish above it you gain points and if you finish below it you loose points. BALDERDASH!

The number itself is supposedly assigned based on the number of points you have compared to every one else in the race. It works in the higher DRs *if* you don't have mixed DRs, then it all falls to 🤬. For some strange reason the numbers are ordered alphabetically. What effects your points isn't door number, but where you finish in relation to the others in the race and their DR. In a race where everyone is the same DR you gain points for finishing in the top half and loose them in the bottom half. If you have a mix of DR then it gets a bit trickier. If you finish say P12/20 and you managed to beat a few drivers with higher DRs than yours, you can still gain points... provided you weren't beat by lower DRs ;).
 
Mistah_MCA
Try the NSX. Might not be the fastest car here, but it's definitely fun to drive... and doesn't understeer like crazy.

E: Quoted the right person.
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This this this. Ran two race Bs in the NSX yesterday, went forwards in both. It's very easy to get up the esses, really removes the stress there, and you WILL gain on Supras out of the slow corners as the NSX can really slap the power down.

Loving this car and this track which I used to really dislike.

Just use a bit of forward brake bias if you find the car too squirrelly.
 
Invisigoth
For some strange reason people seem to think the number PD assigns you has magical properties and that somehow if you finish above it you gain points and if you finish below it you loose points. BALDERDASH!

The number itself is supposedly assigned based on the number of points you have compared to every one else in the race. It works in the higher DRs *if* you don't have mixed DRs, then it all falls to 🤬. For some strange reason the numbers are ordered alphabetically. What effects your points isn't door number, but where you finish in relation to the others in the race and their DR. In a race where everyone is the same DR you gain points for finishing in the top half and loose them in the bottom half. If you have a mix of DR then it gets a bit trickier. If you finish say P12/20 and you managed to beat a few drivers with higher DRs than yours, you can still gain points... provided you weren't beat by lower DRs ;).
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Thanks man! So its only a myth:) I knew about DR distribution that you gain if end race at top half, was just curious if this door number is something new... Yeti, ufo, chemtrails, door numbers... Eehh people;)
 
Just did a race in the RC F. Easy no stop. I had fuel to burn in the final 3 laps. Kept pulling a way from a Slophy that would ride my bumper in cornering but couldn't keep up during acceleration.

Penultimate lap, a player tries to dive bomb three of us into the final chicane. I get smashed. All that fair play with the Slophy becomes undone.
I was two cars behind and heading into the final chicane, I sent that player to Gundungaland.

I got 1 second, they got 4. Earlier in the race, a different player did the same. Couldn't pass me. Bumped me wide middle of the final chicane. I went to bump it back. I went off, but that player gets 1 second. It also pit next lap with 24%. Come on, Son!:rolleyes:
 
LVS_1986
So its only a myth:)
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Not wholly, no - you just need to understand how you gain and lose DR, and how it relates.

In essence, you gain DR from every car you finish ahead of, and lose it to every car you finish behind. However it isn't a set amount, it's proportional to the difference in your DR scores. That means you gain more if you finish ahead of someone whose DR is higher than yours, and lose more if you finish behind someone whose DR is lower than yours.

The door number definitely does indicate your DR rank among the lobby, but it's ranked alphabetically. That means that someone with a DR of 9 will be ranked higher than someone with a DR of 10,000.

Once you get into DR B and above - that's 10,000pt and above - alphabetical sorting becomes irrelevant; everyone has five-figure DRs, so alphabetical and numerical sorting are identical. The door number becomes a cast-iron DR ranking. However, whether you gain or lose DR is still a question of what everyone's score actually is - finishing above your door number is fine, but if you're in an all-B lobby at 27k and all the people who finish in front of you are at 11-12k and all those behind you are at 28k, you're probably going to lose DR; you can't gain much from the 28k drivers, but you will lose a lot to the 11k drivers.

Below DR B, and in mixed fields with drivers below DR B, it becomes an intensely unreliable indicator of anything, because a guy with a DR of 8 or 9 will be driver #1 regardless of any other factor.

Your goal essentially needs to be to finish in the top half of the field (more behind you to gain from, fewer in front of you to lose to), and in DR B or above you'll also want to finish ahead of drivers with a lower door number and not behind drivers with a higher one. In principle you cannot lose DR when you win a race, but there may be an implausible edge case where it might happen (if there's no code to prevent it, which there might be).
 
I never wanted to do this, but today I connected my PS4 with my YT-Account to upload a replay. Some guy in a Mégane destroyed my and other peoples race. In lap 2 (shortly before he quit) before he got to serve his penalties for the first time, he had already accumulated 8.5 seconds. My door number was one, and I was happy to finish at least 6th (despite being victim of another accident in lap 4).

This race could've been my teleportation to DR-B. Oh well..

 
beegentoo
I never wanted to do this, but today I connected my PS4 with my YT-Account to upload a replay. Some guy in a Mégane destroyed my and other peoples race. In lap 2 (shortly before he quit) before he got to serve his penalties for the first time, he had already accumulated 8.5 seconds. My door number was one, and I was happy to finish at least 6th (despite being victim of another accident in lap 4).

This race could've been my teleportation to DR-B. Oh well..

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Unfortunately, idiots are still racing between us, I wonder when finally someone in PD will come up with the option of a automatic disqualification after such a maneuver.
 
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