Definition of Rice...A rant... :(

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Duke
There's what would be a nice last-gen 240SX that parks near my house. Except it has a wing on the back that looks like it was stolen off the helmet of a bad guy in the Power Rangers...
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Take the time to give him your opinion man! By that I mean roll by when he's out and yell out your window "Boeing called, they want their wing back!" That's what I always do. :sly:
 
Famine
Which generation of Golf/Rabbit was it? I've never come across a car with "a mass amount of metal" inside the bumpers.
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It's a MK I. 1988

Duke
There's style, and then there's tasteless.
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The unfortunate thing is there are more tastelessness out there and that's what I think creates the misunderstanding of RICE. In translation to some, any mod is RICE. I do my car on style. I refuse to post a pic of it due to the amount of flamers in here who think any mod is RICE. People are going to be DIFFERENT. I am one of those people who want to be different. I don't want to follow everyone else. If we all did that, the world would be extremely boring. As far as the Mustang is concerned, it looks like S**T. I would never do anything like that.
 
bleurabbit7
The original bumpers had a mass amount of metal under the bumper covering. For all I know it could have been more than 80lbs. I didn't weight them.
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Just for the record, the transmission on my car weighs about 65 pounds; I seriously doubt that the bumper of your car weighed "at least 80".
 
They are made of steel so I wouldn't be too surprised if they did. I worked in a place where we had 40lb cases and each bumper felt about that weight.

But enough about that, back to the Mustang :yuck:
 
I used to call anything a ricer that just had a ricey sounding muffler on it. Now adays there are 5000 diff efinitions of ricer. Why cant we just back to calling it "retarded"? or at the least, "uneeded", or "yea man those vynals sure make the car fly!"
 
Rice is all about attitude. It's all about how much effort you put into the car, and how you view it. It's also about misplaced mods.

I can see a Civic, only basic performance mods, but with an agressive body kit, a big wing, neons, etc. That doesn't make it rice. If it's good quality stuff, which flows with the lines of the car, is properly installed, painted well, etc, I won't call it rice. It's show and not go, sure, but if it looks clean, it's good. If the same car has a cheap body kit that's primered, or, worse, painted a different color than the car, and is half falling off, a mistuned wing that's bare aluminum and rediculously proportioned, cheap wheels with spray painted drums, crummy APC neons, etc, then it's a ricer. It's all about the whole package, making all the mods go together and go with the car. A car is also a ricer if external mods are otherwise incomplete, for example, a huge rear bumper and no other mods.

I know a guy with a Prelude. Car's only got wheels, lip, JDM red badges, and intake/exhaust. To some, these non-functional mods, with very basic performance mods, could make it rice. But it all works, tasteful wheels, red badges on a white car, with matching lip. It's probably the cleanest, best looking, Honda I know.
 
Takumi Fujiwara
Rice is all about attitude. It's all about how much effort you put into the car, and how you view it. It's also about misplaced mods.

I can see a Civic, only basic performance mods, but with an agressive body kit, a big wing, neons, etc. That doesn't make it rice. If it's good quality stuff, which flows with the lines of the car, is properly installed, painted well, etc, I won't call it rice. It's show and not go, sure, but if it looks clean, it's good. If the same car has a cheap body kit that's primered, or, worse, painted a different color than the car, and is half falling off, a mistuned wing that's bare aluminum and rediculously proportioned, cheap wheels with spray painted drums, crummy APC neons, etc, then it's a ricer. It's all about the whole package, making all the mods go together and go with the car. A car is also a ricer if external mods are otherwise incomplete, for example, a huge rear bumper and no other mods.
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I agree. I generally don't call a car rice until the driver acts like it's much faster than it is.
 
yea well it seems lately everyone is so ready to jump on the "omg ricer" bandwagon, even if the car looks nice and goes fast, its still a peice of **** to them for some reason.
 
Drifting Thunda
I agree. I generally don't call a car rice until the driver acts like it's much faster than it is.
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In that case, wouldn't the driver himself be RICE? :lol:

My roommate is like that. Has some minor mods and claims it's the s**t. Then he wants to show off and drag off the light. He'll get a head start and I still smoke him with my fiancee's stock ZX3 'cause he has no power.
 
Yea, to most muscle car fans, any stock import from japan is a ricer. But when u add mods to it, it only makes it "worse". When in reality, imports are normally very light high rpm hp range cars, and making it better or faster is only making it "worse".
 
I guess now the question is : what mods has he done that has him thinking a 20 year old car that was slow even in it's day is 'all that'?


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Obviously an Iceman cold-air intake, a short throw shifter (maybe) and a 4 inch muffler from Folger's Racing product line. Well, that's what's typical at least.

What I find interesting is you can always hear the difference between a ricer and a fast 4-cylinder car by sheer exhaust note.
 
bleurabbit7
It's a MK I. 1988
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They only weigh 1750lb in total. You seriously think that your bumpers contributed 5% of the weight of your car?

I'd love to see a picture of this Golf/Rabbit.
 
Famine
They only weigh 1750lb in total. You seriously think that your bumpers contributed 5% of the weight of your car?

I'd love to see a picture of this Golf/Rabbit.
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You've got to remember that in the USofA a Mk1 Golf had some fugly 'federal' style bumpers on it, compared to our nice little 'euro' efforts. I still don't think they weigh 80lbs though.
 
Drifting Thunda
Obviously an Iceman cold-air intake, a short throw shifter (maybe) and a 4 inch muffler from Folger's Racing product line. Well, that's what's typical at least.

What I find interesting is you can always hear the difference between a ricer and a fast 4-cylinder car by sheer exhaust note.
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Those things aren't available for that car. What's worse is that he 'swiss cheesed' the intake box. Resonated (sp) exhaust with glass packs. Slight lowered suspension and steel braided brake lines is all he's done to it.
And COUGH *3 sets of fogs* COUGH

115HP in a 3500lb car=not faster than a Metro. But his ego is out of control so he thinks it is.
 
Hahahahahaha. Steel braided brake lines... Let me guess. The whole rest of the braking system, from the tires to the pads to the calipers are still stock, right?


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Hahahahahaha. Steel braided brake lines... Let me guess. The whole rest of the braking system, from the tires to the pads to the calipers are still stock, right?
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But of course. And the pads are extremely cheap 'Pep Boys' special. He replaces them like every 4 months it seems.

Drifing Thunda
Swiss cheesing an intake box makes it pull in hot air...
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And this coming from a Mechanical Engineering student. He tries to get me to do it. I don't think so.
 
bleurabbit7
In that case, wouldn't the driver himself be RICE? :lol:

My roommate is like that. Has some minor mods and claims it's the s**t. Then he wants to show off and drag off the light. He'll get a head start and I still smoke him with my fiancee's stock ZX3 'cause he has no power.
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Actually, yes, it is the driver that often makes rice. I often see totally stock, or almost stock, cars (only some stickers or interior crap, maybe), where you can call them rice just by how the driver acts behind the wheel.

Oh, that reminds me, I saw a totally stock Maxima the other day, with no less than three Nismo badges on the rear, and a GT-R badge. Who does he think he's fooling?
 
Duke
Obsession with blow-off valves is rice... even though the turbo theoretically adds performance, it's irrelevant because apparently the important part is to make it go *pssssssh* so that everybody knows you have a turbo. Rice.
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If you're autocrossing BOV's do have their purpose...

Remember the purpose of BOV's is for when the throttle is closed to let the pressurized air from the still-spooling turbo go. If not it gets bottled up, which forces a slowdown of the turbocharger. On cars with larger turbos this is bad because it takes an amount of time for a spool to get back up to speed - aka, turbo lag. BOV's help reduce turbo lag and some people believe they also increase turbo life.

However, I will add, people who add BOV's to just "Vroooooo-psssshh" at every stoplight are ricers.

edit: damn, my reading skills have sucked lately. I totally misread, I wrote almost exactly what you said in a more detailed way. :dopey:
 
The following is a direct quote from one of the other six threads I've posted in regarding the nature of "rice, ricing, and ricers".

I've said this in another thread, but I guess I need to spread my view around a bit.

Rice or Ricer is more about an ATTITUDE than what you've done to your car.
I was reading an automotive publication from 1993 that was full of vehicles with 17-inch wheels, huge exhausts, wings, and engine mods, lowered into the weeds.
The owners of these vehicles can be compared with tuners of today. They like to hang with like minded people, fix up their vehicles, go fast at times (usually on the track). These things are fine in my mind. And the majority of competent tuners/hot-rodders are of this ilk.
BTW the publcation I was perusing was Sport Truck.
All the stuff you see on Civics, Neons, Cavaliers, etc. Was first seen on a Full-Size Chevy Truck.

IMHO a 'ricer' is an idiot (not meaning to insult idiots) that pulls up in his shoddily modded car, and revs on me in my Caravan. I will not be racing you in my Caravan. I don't want to embarass you in front of your friends, nor myself in front of the police.
A ricer will pull up on you in heavy traffic and do the "flashy thing" with their brights, and pull around you like they won a race.
A ricer will come flying thru a residential area going twice the posted speed limit, endangering every little kid in the neighborhood. Thank God for the "Fart Cans" that give us enough warning to yank the little ones out of the street.
A ricer has 3000 watts of stereo in his CRX, and cruises up my street using every one of those watts to deafen the people two counties over. Newsflash! Happiness is not having a stereo so loud that you have blood running out of your ears. Please turn it down so my dog will be brave enough to come out from under the bed.

It is not rice (or a crime) to have a nice, modified car. Whether those mods are to make the car faster, or more entertaining to be in for long periods of time, matters not. Well, it matters not as long as you are responsible, and somewhat intelligent as you drive that car.


Here, ends the rant.

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As far as the BOV thing,.. I remember when people were drilling tiny holes between the teeth of their super-chargers so the "whistle" couldn't be heard so the dude in the next lane would have no clue what he was up against.

I guess drivng a "sleeper" is too old school for the current street crowd.
 
A question about banners..........................I had one on my front windshield that read " slow traffic keep right"..............cause I drove like hell...........WELL I still do :sly:
so would that make my R33 GTR a ricer??? :scared:
 
There is nothing wrong with window banners. I got one on my truck that says "Xtreme".
 

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