Depression and Anxiety Thread

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MatskiMonk
Depression causing factors are becoming more prevalent in modern society, and people are being exposed to such factors from a much younger age, so the problem is only going to get worse in my opinion. As for there being too many to help, that probably depends more on your regional/national healthcare system than the shear weight of cases, but I've never felt the public healthcare system in the UK has really been effective at combating depression or anxiety.
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Not entirely accurate. Mental Health in the UK is more than likely singularly the most neglected part of the NHS.
 
Omnis
If any of you guys are still ****ed up and haven't gotten help, just do it. What are you waiting for? Swallow your pride and try something. Best decision I've made lately and I should have done this years ago
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I went to two different docs with a good repuation, and I could not disagree more with you.
I'm not dissing your opinion at all, if it helps you all the power to you! It just does not match what I have experienced.

* The meds I received didn't work at all and the side effects were quite horrible
* Talking about my problems and ''getting them off my chest'' made me feel much, much worse
* Talking with the docs didn't help any of my problems, or help me find a different approach to what ails me, I just received the stereotypical standard-mold psychiatrist speeches they give all their patients
* They were super expensive

Never again, such a waste of time and money only to feel worse afterwards. I rather spend the money on a hiking trip, that would have been a much better investment.
 
I'm no Therapist and I wasn't obviously there, but you did mention that you've hid behind a Mask. My question is how long? Are you perhaps afraid to show your real self and probably feel guilty by showing it? These questions are a bit confronting so it is ok if you can't answer.

Also while I never went to a Therapist by you should probably ask for what you want him to help you with if you didn't do that. Ask him for a different approach.
 
Michael88
I went to two different docs with a good repuation, and I could not disagree more with you.
I'm not dissing your opinion at all, if it helps you all the power to you! It just does not match what I have experienced.

* The meds I received didn't work at all and the side effects were quite horrible
* Talking about my problems and ''getting them off my chest'' made me feel much, much worse
* Talking with the docs didn't help any of my problems, or help me find a different approach to what ails me, I just received the stereotypical standard-mold psychiatrist speeches they give all their patients
* They were super expensive

Never again, such a waste of time and money only to feel worse afterwards. I rather spend the money on a hiking trip, that would have been a much better investment.
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Have you been seen by a psychiatric Doctor?
 
RESHIRAM5
I'm no Therapist and I wasn't obviously there, but you did mention that you've hid behind a Mask. My question is how long? Are you perhaps afraid to show your real self and probably feel guilty by showing it? These questions are a bit confronting so it is ok if you can't answer.

Also while I never went to a Therapist by you should probably ask for what you want him to help you with if you didn't do that. Ask him for a different approach.
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I played with open cards so to speak, I wanted help so I realized there was no sense in hiding or distorting my condition, as uncomfortable as it made me feel, but I pulled through completely.
People always talk about feeling so much better and freed after having shared their thoughts and problems with others seeking understanding. For me its the exact opposite.

So other than making me feel even worse for days, hearing usual empty stereotypical phrases you'd expect from any doctor dealing with mental problems and getting medications that failed dramatically I have lost money which I'm working very hard for at the moment.

I know, maybe I simply had bad luck with the doctors and there are much better ones out there and all that, but to tell you the truth I cannot think of a single way another person could help me in any way, or help me to help myself, other than giving me working drugs to battle the symptoms.
Psychiatrists / therapists are just ordinary human beings too, trapped in the same world with the same problems and same thoughts so they cannot tell my anything I don't already know myself or give me ''out of the box'' advice.

rono_thomas
Have you been seen by a psychiatric Doctor?
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My memory is absolutely terrible so I cannot say with absolute certainty what kind of doctors I visited. - I visited one doctor when I was doing my military service time which lead to my immediate discharge, I then had to make another trip to a military psychiatrist (?) for re-evaluation and all the legal stuff and paperwork that follows with a discharge.

Then I visited two (civilian) doctors (?) if I remember correctly, I do not remember what kind of doctors those were exactly but they were qualified enough to prescribe me some potent medications (which ultimately worsened my condition by a considerable amount) after a 1 hour conversation or so.

I made another attempt but I could not make an appointment at any therapist with a halfway decent reputation because they were ALL fully booked for the entire year. Thats when I said F-it.
 
Why College age people are the most depressed people?

Also apparently im not in the "privelaged" religion, race, and place to live (atleast judging by the Opinions and current events subforum) largely contributes.
 
MatskiMonk
I don't think they are, I believe that statistically the age range most likely to suffer from depression is around 45-60.
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Maybe because they either took a long time to realized they made a bad choice they cant take back or fix and also just a several steps to death?
 
FrzGT
Maybe because they either took a long time to realized they made a bad choice they cant take back or fix and also just a several steps to death?
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Could be, also the it's not just college students that have to deal with pressure and stress.
 
MatskiMonk
Could be, also the it's not just college students that have to deal with pressure and stress.
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Yes but its pretty much a catalyst. Financial screw, friends leaving elsewhere, more work in or out campus, lose passion and taste on something, realizing some people are kind of not worth it, realizing if myself shouldve been better, wrong choices, etc.
 
MatskiMonk
That's the problem with the internet. It's full of people with opinions.

The internet has changed depression.. not sure if it was for the better or worse. Probably the worse.

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Yup, worse.

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I don't think there is anything wrong with people having opinions, everyone has opinions and we have the right to share what we think. I think the issue is from both sides. One side is very uninformed about the whole thing which makes it hard to take his opinion seriously and the other side took one guys uninformed view like an attack and made a huge fuss.

If you complain about people having opinions, it seems hypocritical as you are sharing an opinion yourself.
 
Michael88
I went to two different docs with a good repuation, and I could not disagree more with you.
I'm not dissing your opinion at all, if it helps you all the power to you! It just does not match what I have experienced.

* The meds I received didn't work at all and the side effects were quite horrible
* Talking about my problems and ''getting them off my chest'' made me feel much, much worse
* Talking with the docs didn't help any of my problems, or help me find a different approach to what ails me, I just received the stereotypical standard-mold psychiatrist speeches they give all their patients
* They were super expensive

Never again, such a waste of time and money only to feel worse afterwards. I rather spend the money on a hiking trip, that would have been a much better investment.
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Sorry to hear about that. Maybe CBT would be a better option for you. For me, I just don't have that exasperating "Grr" feeling anymore. I can wake up in the morning and am not a zombie all the time anymore. It is easier to make the changes I desire without having to fight or struggle for control over what felt like a shell that just wouldn't move. It slowly took over my life over the course of 2 or 3 years and until lately it was really bad, physically. Since starting treatment I've been a completely new person, as mentioned. And a whole year of treatment only costs me about $40 bucks w/o insurance. Totally worth it. I would definitely recommend anyone to at least try and not be afraid of the conventional routes to help.
 
RESHIRAM5
I don't think there is anything wrong with people having opinions, everyone has opinions and we have the right to share what we think. I think the issue is from both sides. One side is very uninformed about the whole thing which makes it hard to take his opinion seriously and the other side took one guys uninformed view like an attack and made a huge fuss.

If you complain about people having opinions, it seems hypocritical as you are sharing an opinion yourself.
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Uncontrolled release of words at the wrong time can be highly destructive, just because someone has the right to an opinion, doesn't mean they're not a catastrophic **** stain for sharing it at an in appropriate moment.

edit: however, like I say the internet hasn't helped as much as it could... for all the good it could do, there are always people that will **** things up... and those that will defend their right to do so.
 
MatskiMonk
Uncontrolled release of words at the wrong time can be highly destructive, just because someone has the right to an opinion, doesn't mean they're not a catastrophic **** stain for sharing it at an in appropriate moment.

edit: however, like I say the internet hasn't helped as much as it could... for all the good it could do, there are always people that will **** things up... and those that will defend their right to do so.
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From what I read, it doesn't look like it was a "bad time" (I honestly don't like the idea of right and wrong time). How is he supposed to respond to someone like that, his he meant to hide how he really feels and actually lie? Granted what he said after that proved that he was very uninformed and needed more research on depression but there was nothing "inappropriate". Suicide and Depression was brought up and therefore it should be fair game for both sides to discuss what they think.
 
RESHIRAM5
From what I read, it doesn't look like it was a "bad time" (I honestly don't like the idea of right and wrong time). How is he supposed to respond to someone like that, his he meant to hide how he really feels and actually lie? Granted what he said after that proved that he was very uninformed and needed more research on depression but there was nothing "inappropriate". Suicide and Depression was brought up and therefore it should be fair game for both sides to discuss what they think.
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Fair game? That could change the tone of this thread somewhat.
 
FrzGT
As for the "good deeds can go away, bad deeds stay forever", im sorry. But its true. I've been living for my lifetime facing this by most people. So much its now in our society system. Overall good grades but one bad? Don't get a job and flip a burger instead for the rest of your life.

The human nature in general (mostly) are basically this. It's always been killing each other. And now in the modern world its how much they screw over people until they eventually got down.

There are things that should be defended, once destroyed you'll never get it back because people will regard you as such.
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Seems quite numerous people agreed with me......
 
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FrzGT
Seems quite numerous people agreed with me......
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I don't agree with you on it. At least where I come from, jobs aren't affected by grades whatsoever. They are mostly on your teacher's comments. If you got an A but the Teacher wrote that you were lazy and disrupt the class, you aren't going to get a decent job despite how competent you may be. If you failed Uni/College or don't have enough marks to get in, there is more ways to enter than doing well in High School. Teachers pressure you with all this because they want you to try hard but it really doesn't mean all that much in the end.
 
RESHIRAM5
I don't think there is anything wrong with people having opinions, everyone has opinions and we have the right to share what we think. I think the issue is from both sides. One side is very uninformed about the whole thing which makes it hard to take his opinion seriously and the other side took one guys uninformed view like an attack and made a huge fuss.

If you complain about people having opinions, it seems hypocritical as you are sharing an opinion yourself.
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We should have a right to share what we think, to share our opinions but quite frankly in this day and ago to many SJWs won't accept that because they believe they have a right to not be made to feel uncomfortable, hence the expansion of political correctness.

Free speech is being killed by political correctness popularised and vocalised by some of the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

I know this isn't the thread for that conversation so I'll turn the subject back.

Ah, depression. What a thing. I'm managing to hang on to sanity by a thread and the promise of an end to the monotony in jut a few months. Somehow I'm still able to get out of bed in the morning and force myself not to get on a downer. Awful job, rubbish living conditions, tightest budget ever. I know it's only temporary which is the only thing keeping me from reverting back to alcohol therapy.
 
W3HS
We should have a right to share what we think, to share our opinions but quite frankly in this day and ago to many SJWs won't accept that because they believe they have a right to not be made to feel uncomfortable, hence the expansion of political correctness.
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Unfortunately the consequence free environment that is the internet is shouting to the younger generation that they have this right, but robbing them of the ability to judge when to use it.
 
Hey guys, it's me again, thought I update you all on my "progress" well I wouldn't even call it that... anyways yeah... Life's just been crap ever since I was born.I'm already at this point where I just don't care about anything anymore, ever since I got my first panic attack four years ago, my life had never been the same, back then I was pretty much the quiet one back in elementary and I was a bit of a vocal punching bag since most of the kids would make fun of my appearance and such and always use rude words and actions against, hell that's where I got my cold attitude and my cursing from. Basically people excepted the "hospitalization" to be an eye-opener to me, I got more worse after I got out of that damned crazy place. All this time, over these years, I been monitored, disrespected, betrayed, used, and even worthless, back then I was hopeless, so many doubted me and so many never believed me, but now look, the anxiety already manifested as a part of me now, It is part of my personality and what makes me "half-full". Honestly dealing with these problems like envy, jealousy, and fear, they are just normal human reactions right? But to me, I feel like I been crumpled over and over and gave up so much for what? For nothing... I wasted all this time for nothing.

My brain feels overwhelmed and weakened, my body just doesn't work as fast as it used to, my physical state hasn't really changed (Well it doesn't really matter, I always been skinny so I don't mind it), The memories of all my mistakes to now still haunt me and cause me to have "Vietnam Flashbacks" (Horrible Joke, I'm sorry). I just... ugh, I don't know anything anymore, My intelligence is scattered all over my thoughts, I can't even think straight. People say that this is my fault but they never say it directly to me but they just make it obvious that they don't know what's wrong with me.

It's not like I know either...


Actually I prefer my life when I was younger than now, I was that nerdy glasses kid who was always gullible and didn't know a damn thing about what reality is, I was in my own fantasy to escape my reality but that also broke in time as well...

But it was simpler...

Even though I was bullied...

Even though I had no friends...

Even though I had a terrible appearance...

Even though my parents back then all the time...

Even though I was hated...

I was alone but still able to "smile".

Time just moves on and doctors, therapists, psychologists, surgeons, people and even my own bloody parents... Tell me the except same thing

"This was your fault"

"You suffer depression"

"You were so much better when you were a kid"

"This medicine will help you"

"If you don't comply, you will be taken away"

"Stop using excuses"

"You should have learned a lesson all this time"

"Why aren't you better?"

"You will never be loved"

"You think you can beat us?"

"You are weak"

"You should just die"

"You never meant to exist"

and it alL JUST PISSES ME OFF!

DO ALL OF THEM THINK I WANTED THIS S***** BULL**** TO HAPPEN TO ME? DOES IT LOOK LIKE I WAS CAPABLE OF ESCAPING THE VERY THING YOU ALL CAUSED!! ALL THIS TIME I WAS ALONE AND NOW THAT I WAS FEELING A LITTLE BETTER, SOME ******* HAS TO COME INTO MY LIFE AND DESTROY IT ALL, YOU GIVE ME HOPE AND THEN YOU TAKE IT AWAY AND YOU EXCEPT ME TO NOT BE ANGRY ABOUT THAT!!! I AM NOT ST***, I AM NOT ****, YOU CREATED THIS DAMN THING INTO MY HEAD, YOU ALL DID, THOSE BULLIES, THOSE TEACHERS, MY PARENTS, OTHER CLASSMATES, RANDOM STRANGERS, EVERYONE DAMAGES ME, WHY CANT I JUST BE LEFT ALONE!!!!!!!!!

Honestly these doctors and everyone who pretends to care should just piss off, I won't take the blame anymore, but the burden of it can't be removed... No matter how hard I try, it's been absorbed into my brain as a key memory of the past that's supposed to keep me going but it hurts at the same time... The despair of having to deal with this,
losing what I had and already been consumed by it, it's just not fair... But hell I am a nobody that everyone knows, I have no privacy or will to do anything, my life is just a unbalanced mess that doesn't have a solution, no matter who says that there is one, If it existed why not tell me what it is instead of the **** that I already have it inside me and I just need to look... I just want to be left alone... After all.... Loneliness is all I got now...
 
GTracer125
Hey guys, it's me again, thought I update you all on my "progress" well I wouldn't even call it that..
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How old are you? I'm asking not as an insult, but to understand your mental development.

Either way, you should definitely look for people who are more accepting of you. Like you, I was bullied, but to a certain degree. Aftet college, either I changed, or people just matured. Maybe it's both. Some people are targeted due to how easy they are to bully. I'm a very passive person, but if someone goes out of their way to to bully of bother me, I make it known that I will stand up for who I am and what I think I am worth.

Take a stand. Don't take the ******** that others say about you, because what they say will be projected into you internally. Tell people to their face about what they're saying to you and how it effects you. No one likes to be put on the spot.

Though it all may seem to be confusing and a mess, life will show its nicer side over time, and by nicer side, I mean that you will find the ones that make you truly happy to be around and the thing that you absolutely like to do.

Take it with stride. **** all the ******** and power on.

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Anyways, I feel like I'm pulling up on a but of alcoholism. I've been drinking to numb and distract my mind from the problems that I have. I am very much aware of my being afraid of the now, the present. I'm not scared of the future for some reason, just reality.

I've been drinking during my classes and handling semi dangerous machinery and tools. Completely irresponsible of me, so I plan to stop.

I just can't help but realize how scary reality is. I'm drowned by the present...

I'll find my way out, eventually. The idea of being uncertain sucks.
 
phillkillv2
How old are you? I'm asking not as an insult, but to understand your mental development.

Either way, you should definitely look for people who are more accepting of you. Like you, I was bullied, but to a certain degree. Aftet college, either I changed, or people just matured. Maybe it's both. Some people are targeted due to how easy they are to bully. I'm a very passive person, but if someone goes out of their way to to bully of bother me, I make it known that I will stand up for who I am and what I think I am worth.

Take a stand. Don't take the ******** that others say about you, because what they say will be projected into you internally. Tell people to their face about what they're saying to you and how it effects you. No one likes to be put on the spot.

Though it all may seem to be confusing and a mess, life will show its nicer side over time, and by nicer side, I mean that you will find the ones that make you truly happy to be around and the thing that you absolutely like to do.

Take it with stride. **** all the ******** and power on.

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Anyways, I feel like I'm pulling up on a but of alcoholism. I've been drinking to numb and distract my mind from the problems that I have. I am very much aware of my being afraid of the now, the present. I'm not scared of the future for some reason, just reality.

I've been drinking during my classes and handling semi dangerous machinery and tools. Completely irresponsible of me, so I plan to stop.

I just can't help but realize how scary reality is. I'm drowned by the present...

I'll find my way out, eventually. The idea of being uncertain sucks.
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I am 16 years old currently, yeah I am just a young teenager who is apparently wanted just to get locked up in a mental hospital room again for no reason... Damn doctor's can't just piss off and leave well enough alone. The stress of all of this has already overwhelmed me that I can't even get rid of it anymore.

Honestly I am just tired of this whole thing, this stupid anxiety and depression or whatever the hell these "specialists' refer it to. I have no one in the outside world anymore, my family is against me, I have no friends or anyone to talk to, I am basically being stalked at the moment by the same bloody therapist who put me in hospital in the first place. My mother has apparently seen her in my neighborhood just walking around, probably trying to see if I try to escape or something, I don't know. I am just suspicious of everything now, this world has just so much over the years that I honestly just hate it now. So many say that I chose this life, but they were the reason I chose it, Isolation is my only survival now but even that is going to be taken away...

Also I been on and off going to school nowadays for the last year and a half. My grades are pretty much 0 by now and I can't catch up anymore, hell I never even finished 10th and barely surviving 11th. I just made everything worse honestly and the hospital is just waiting for me to come back. My intelligence is faded and my mind is so stuck in my mistakes, they just swarm me with pain and agony, I just want all of this to go away damn it...

Ever since I had my first panic attack, I just hoped that this is all a bad dream and I would wake up in a earlier point of my life and just fix it or just end it all in the first place... But that's not happening isn't it... I am just stuck in this hellish present. If only time-travel existed, I wouldn't even care if I caused a paradox, It be better than existing now.. but who am I kidding that will never happen at all to me...

Right now, I am just in my room all the time, typing random things on the internet just to keep my mind off of this insanity, but even that is taken away by my parents who try to force me out and push more burdens on me, I ****** hate it and them. They always make things worse and blame me for it. I have no escape anymore, I have nothing left to live on for, I know that sooner of later, I be locked up and taken away... because life just wants the worse to me...
 
Im kind of person who never value myself even a bit. I know people, even here, thought the same about myself. Annoying, worthless piece of *censored* that'll not be missed.

Sone people got it easy. I dont and never will. Whats the point of living anyway.
 

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