Diesel M-Cars: Nooooooooooooooo!!!

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So BMW continue to destroy the image of BMW M. Using turbo-charged engines and making the X5M and X6M was bad enough, but this goes too far.

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BMW will introduce a new range of performance-orientated M division-developed diesel models later this year. The new oil-burners will get an initial public airing at the Geneva motor show in March and are set to reach the UK later this year.

The four-wheel-drive X5 M50d and X6 M50d will arrive first, in June. Rear-wheel-drive M550d saloon and M550d Touring models engineered specifically for right-hand drive markets are tipped to go on sale in October. The rear-drive pair will come to the UK in place of the four-wheel-drive M550d xDrive saloon and Touring variants that will be offered elsewhere in left-hand drive only.

See official pics of the M Performance diesels

The four cars represent an M division first, with all running a newly developed version of BMW’s 3.0-litre, six-cylinder diesel engine.

The new powerplant is fitted with a triple-turbo induction system that BMW sources suggest is set to revolutionise the efficiency and performance credentials of traditional combustion engines, in both diesel and petrol formats.

The new models will form the basis of what BMW has dubbed its ‘M Performance’ range. They have been conceived to slot into their respective line-ups between the top-performing standard model and full-blown M model in terms of outright performance, dynamic ability, equipment levels and price. In the case of the M550d saloon, this is between the 550i and M5.

The new M-developed diesel engine comprehensively outguns BMW’s widely used twin-turbo 3.0-litre in-line six. It develops 376bhp between 4000 and 4400rpm and a sturdy 545lb ft of torque from 2000 to 3000rpm.

These figures are 74bhp and 103lb ft higher than those of the most powerful version of BMW’s existing twin-turbo 3.0-litre six, as fitted to the 740d, giving it a spectacular — by diesel standards — 126bhp and 182lb ft per litre.

Although 176bhp shy of the M5’s twin-turbo 4.4-litre petrol V8, the M550d saloon boasts 44lb ft more.

In each of the M Performance models, the new engine is mated to a beefed-up version of the existing eight-speed automatic gearbox and, for left-hand drive markets, a specially tuned version of BMW’s four-wheel drive system. Together, this set-up gives the M550d xDrive saloon 0-62mph acceleration of 4.7sec — just 0.3sec slower than the new M5.

Because of the M550d xDrive saloon and Touring’s lack of right-hand drive compatibility, UK versions will be rear-wheel drive only — resulting in what BMW insiders say is a “70kg reduction in kerb weight”.

BMW’s EfficientDynamics fuel-saving features — including stop-start, brake energy recuperation and on-demand function for engine ancilliaries — help the saloon to return 44.8mpg on the combined cycle, giving the M550d xDrive a CO2 rating of 165g/km, the same as the 535d.

M division has also provided the M550d xDrive saloon, 550d xDrive Touring, X5 M50d and X6 M50d with unique steering ratios, chassis settings and, in some instances, chassis components conmensurate with their M-car siblings.

Each M Performance car will get subtle styling changes to differentiate them from their standard and M-car counterparts. The interior of each car has also been given the M treatment, with unique stainless steel sill plates, leather-bound dashboards and M-specific steering wheels and seats.

The X5 M50d will cost £60,325 when it goes on sale in June and the X6 M50d will be £62,260. Prices for the M550d saloon and Touring have not yet been revealed.
 
Yawn.

Who cares as long as they're great to drive?

I'm filing this with FWD BMWs and electric BMWs as something I don't give a damn about. BMW continues to make great cars. They've already given us a proper petrol M5. The diesels will make them bucketloads of cash. Get a grip.
 
I love the idea of a M550d Sedan and Touring. It is really just an improved m-sport package of current. It is not like they are trying to replace the M5 with this. I just wish these would be coming to the states. Heres to hoping more BMW diesel offerings will make it to the states and that the F30 Touring (F31) will have a package like this.
 
Impressive figures, and nice to see BMW is going to implement the technology in the petrol range.

But a diesel will always be a fat cow compared to a comparable gas engine in weight terms.

The handling should still be much more crisp in the non diesel cars.
 
You can tear the asphalt of the street with the amount of torque coming out of the new diesels. I say, Yeey diesel M. POWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER.
 
The X6 M50d is way better looking than the X5, the sport kit on the X5 looks rubbish - even worse in white.

Anyway, I'm all for them! And I've no objection to the naming strategy.... BMW's inline 6 diesel has just won the Dakar rally, I've no issues for an M badge being put on a diesel.
 
I'm happy for an M badge to be on a diesel, just make it a good diesel.
 
Are they ditching the petrol M models? If not, I don't see how they are continuing "to destroy the image of the BMW M."
 
Are they ditching the petrol M models? If not, I don't see how they are continuing "to destroy the image of the BMW M."

Exactly. Given that they only released the regular M5 a few months back, it's hardly like it's suddenly being replaced with some diesels.

My view on it: BMW M is making diesels exciting, rather than diesel making BMW M cars boring.
 
Are they ditching the petrol M models? If not, I don't see how they are continuing "to destroy the image of the BMW M."

Yeah also, I'm less bothered about the "Image" of the M brand, than the quality of the products they put their badge on, and I'm sure these models will be great.

I read a lot of BMW forums, and a lot of the enthusiasts (of which I class myself one) don't like this at all (I am not one of those)... but nobody has really offered a sensible reason as to why it's a bad thing, without resorting to totally subjective opinions as to what the "M badge" means.

M135i is next up, then after that, who know, but I'd get used to it people, such model designations will be here for the next decade or so at least.
 
People who still think Diesel is noisy and slow :rolleyes:. the specs are good and can't wait to see some road test of it. :D
 
Yeah also, I'm less bothered about the "Image" of the M brand, than the quality of the products they put their badge on, and I'm sure these models will be great.

Personally, the only way these cars could 'ruin the image of the M brand' is by being absolutely terrible...
 
As we all know, all the proper "M" cars have only one number before/after their name. Anything else is just the equivalent of some bloke sticking an M badge on their normal BMW and should be pointed at and laughed at.

The exception being the M635 obviously.
 
As we all know, all the proper "M" cars have only one number before/after their name. Anything else is just the equivalent of some bloke sticking an M badge on their normal BMW and should be pointed at and laughed at.

Finally someone mentions it!

A blue 3-series BMW passed me the other day with an M-emblem on it. I bet "ordinary" people don't even know what an M-series 3 BMW is, but as a car enthusiast people sticking M-emblems onto their 3-series irritates me to no extent.

Same goes for Audi owners.
 
Finally someone mentions it!

A blue 3-series BMW passed me the other day with an M-emblem on it. I bet "ordinary" people don't even know what an M-series 3 BMW is, but as a car enthusiast people sticking M-emblems onto their 3-series irritates me to no extent.

Same goes for Audi owners.

I do hate it when Audi owners put M-emblems on their cars.




:p
 
I don't really care, I don't see no problem with the diesels - especially when the Germans are usually seen as the pinnacle of that Market.
There is always the risk of it being a bit bland though - but then again, with that torque figures, BMW have no excuse. :P
 
The bigger issue is that BMW evidently doesn't know how to spell precision.
 
Ahem, my opinion is that...

BMW M is making diesels exciting, rather than diesel making BMW M cars boring.

Gobs of torque and a fat power band make for a nice, rocket like driving experience. I am a bit curious to see how the compare in handling, but I imagine the M-Wizards will sort things out proper.

A blue 3-series BMW passed me the other day with an M-emblem on it. I bet "ordinary" people don't even know what an M-series 3 BMW is, but as a car enthusiast people sticking M-emblems onto their 3-series irritates me to no extent.

Indeed, it is annoying. Average person doesn't see an M car, they just see a BMW, and the trained eye sees a normal range model with an M badge on it. Much like when people put Si badges on low end Civics and you can tell at a glance from the brakes, exhaust, trim, etc. that it isn't that at all.

Also, debadged BMW's are never M models either, from what I've seen - guy down the street has an E36 325i that is debadged and some annoying exhaust on it. Eyeballs me in my car every time, like I think he is cool. Bros man, bros.
 
I'd say it's awesome. Considering how spectacular the 550d already is, adding the tweaked M bits all over the vehicle will only make it better. The biggest problem is that we're not likely to see any of these in the States, despite the eeeehhhhhh successes the diesel line has had thus far.
 
I would love to drive one of those. My dad's old bluetec was a hoot to drive. Tank, tank, tank, SLINGSHOT!
 
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I'm happy for an M badge to be on a diesel, just make it a good diesel.

This, I agree with.

I do not mind one bit that an 'M' badge is applied to a model that has had proper sporting attention by BMW. What I do not like is what AMG do by slapping a cruddy bodykit on a basemodel, and then calling it a C200 "AMG". That does not seem to be happening in this instance, as BMW have 'Sport packages' for that purpose.

A bigger travesty by BMW is not M badging diesels, in my opinion, but putting a 2l in a 328i and still calling it a 328i.
 

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