Disappointment with dl content anyone???

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Ix-M0NTANA-xI
Why havent we recieved better cars over the last couple months? Im an original gt player, oldschool. Where is the doanload content? Very suprised at how poor polyphony digital proceeds with game content. quit giving us garbage. This game is a disappointent for true ADULT GT FANS. I dont care to hear responses from children who were in daipers when i started playing gran turismo.
 
I've played since the demo for the first GT, and don't consider 5 to be a disappointment. Yeah, it could be better, but DLC shouldn't make or break a game, just enhance. For me, it's done exactly that.

I just think it's a bit early to come to this conclusion. We have no idea what's in store for us next.
 
Ix-M0NTANA-xI
Why havent we recieved better cars over the last couple months? Im an original gt player, oldschool. Where is the doanload content? Very suprised at how poor polyphony digital proceeds with game content. quit giving us garbage. This game is a disappointent for true ADULT GT FANS. I dont care to hear responses from children who were in daipers when i started playing gran turismo.
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I'm just saying, but why don't you care for the responses of "children"? Their opinion should still be valued. Back on topic, I am quite happy with the DLC made available to us.
 
Let me guess. You're the type of person who'd happily pay more than you paid for the actual game, on DLC? I'd rather that PD focused entirely on GT6.
 
Jawehawk
Let me guess. You're the type of person who'd happily pay more than you paid for the actual game, on DLC? I'd rather that PD focused entirely on GT6.
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That'd be tough, considering I bought the CE. Given the choice, my preference is always free DLC. Even have it as a top requested feature which I submitted in the Feedback section.
 
Ix-M0NTANA-xI
Why havent we recieved better cars over the last couple months? Im an original gt player, oldschool. Where is the doanload content? Very suprised at how poor polyphony digital proceeds with game content. quit giving us garbage. This game is a disappointent for true ADULT GT FANS. I dont care to hear responses from children who were in daipers when i started playing gran turismo.
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How old are YOU? Judging by your your username, you look in your teens. Having all those X's in your name gives me that assumption as it's the "latest trends". If you were really an old man, why would you really care all that much for DLC, im 30 and I only kinda want to see something. I never grew up with DLC so I could go either way with it, I'm not going to die if I don't get it.

Back to your topic though, I'm still waiting for Montegi. If you want to know more, you'll have to read the other hundred threads relating to DLC.

Edit: Sorry for being an ass, but your OP seemed a bit angry and you looked like you needed a reality check.
 
Ehhh... if you seriously think the latest GT5 is a rubbish for yourself and most of the undesirable GT fans, then stop playing the game and go to part with it at a nearby store.

I guess still you can go to buy the remaining contents of cars at PS store but they are all pay, if you don't wish to wait to get them until the next upcoming one being launched. :indiff:
 
Ix-M0NTANA-xI
Why havent we recieved better cars over the last couple months? Im an original gt player, oldschool. Where is the doanload content? Very suprised at how poor polyphony digital proceeds with game content. quit giving us garbage. This game is a disappointent for true ADULT GT FANS.
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I could agree (and I do), but my opinion doesn't matter now because of this little POS statement:
I dont care to hear responses from children who were in daipers when i started playing gran turismo.
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Hmmm...started playing GT3/4 around 10. Now 17 and know what I'm doing.

Way come off as an ass...👎
 
McClarenDesign
That'd be tough, considering I bought the CE. Given the choice, my preference is always free DLC. Even have it as a top requested feature which I submitted in the Feedback section.
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I bought the CE too. Mainly due to the nice APEX book you get with it. The Chromeline's are nice too, but that has more to due with their exclusive status.

My problem with DLC is that they are priced way too high. Consider F4. Great game I'm sure, but how much do all the DLC's for that game cost by now? I might be wrong, but haven't they actually exceeded the price of the original game?
 
Jawehawk
My problem with DLC is that they are priced way too high. Consider F4. Great game I'm sure, but how much do all the DLC's for that game cost by now? I might be wrong, but haven't they actually exceeded the price of the original game?
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Still a bargain when you consider entertainment-per-$. I can justify paying a few bucks for months of entertainment and fun. Can't do that at the movies.
 
Pretty sure that Singstar/Rockband DLC costs more than there respective games too.
Can't expect games to ship with every available song/car on disc.

Besides its optional.
 
Spagetti69
Pretty sure that Singstar/Rockband DLC costs more than there respective games too.
Can't expect games to ship with every available song/car on disc.

Besides its optional.
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What? I can't expect the developer to not withhold content from the game, just so they can make more money? It's a BS way to treat your consumers. Release day DLC is incredibly disrespectful. I can understand having to pay a modest amount of money for real tracks or cars, as it costs money to attain the license to use them. But asking money for fictional stuff that requires little to no work, is BS. And before you say it's optional, consider the fact that it devides the community.
 
Jawehawk
But asking money for fictional stuff that requires little to no work, is BS. And before you say it's optional, consider the fact that it devides the community.
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I guess that makes most forms of insurance "BS" then. Books also contain "fictional stuff" and can require little work, yet we've paid for centuries.

Face it, like it or not, the market has changed. Vote with your wallet, and let the rest of us have our fun.
 
McClarenDesign
I've played since the demo for the first GT, and don't consider 5 to be a disappointment. Yeah, it could be better, but DLC shouldn't make or break a game, just enhance. For me, it's done exactly that.

I just think it's a bit early to come to this conclusion. We have no idea what's in store for us next.
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Agree 100% 👍
 
Jawehawk
What? I can't expect the developer to not withhold content from the game, just so they can make more money? It's a BS way to treat your consumers. Release day DLC is incredibly disrespectful. I can understand having to pay a modest amount of money for real tracks or cars, as it costs money to attain the license to use them. But asking money for fictional stuff that requires little to no work, is BS. And before you say it's optional, consider the fact that it devides the community.
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Isn't that licensed too? Isn't everything nowadays?
 
McClarenDesign
I guess that makes most forms of insurance "BS" then. Books also contain "fictional stuff" and can require little work, yet we've paid for centuries.

Face it, like it or not, the market has changed. Vote with your wallet, and let the rest of us have our fun.
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I think you missed my point. Creating a livery for a car, and changing a few numbers is not a lot of work. Thus charging money for it is rather ridicules. Espicially when the company would be better off doing more important stuff.

And btw. A few years ago, DLC was either free or very cheap. The one and only reason companies are starting to raise the price on less content, is because people don't think before buying. Started with CoD and there utterly ridicules map packs. And now continues with BF3, Gears of War 3, and Forza 4. GT5 also had their fair share with the first car pack (I'm not saying the cars aren't nice, but they hardly required a ton of work to justify the price).

Those of us who don't have a ton of money, suffer because people are telling the companies that it's completely ok to charge a lot of money for very little content. This was not the case a few years back.
 
Jawehawk
I think you missed my point. Creating a livery for a car, and changing a few numbers is not a lot of work. Thus charging money for it is rather ridicules. Espicially when the company would be better off doing more important stuff.
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What are you specifically referring to here? The "Touring Car" DLC for GT5?

And btw. A few years ago, DLC was either free or very cheap. The one and only reason companies are starting to raise the price on less content, is because people don't think before buying. Started with CoD and there utterly ridicules map packs. And now continues with BF3, Gears of War 3, and Forza 4. GT5 also had their fair share with the first car pack (I'm not saying the cars aren't nice, but they hardly required a ton of work to justify the price).

Those of us who don't have a ton of money, suffer because people are telling the companies that it's completely ok to charge a lot of money for very little content. This was not the case a few years back.
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That's not the companies fault then, is it? They're a business, if more money is to be made, they'll make it.
 
Jawehawk
Those of us who don't have a ton of money, suffer because people are telling the companies that it's completely ok to charge a lot of money for very little content. This was not the case a few years back.
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So who's to blame? The consumer, for wanting more and being willing to pay, or the industry for fulfilling that desire?

Again, vote with your wallet, but don't ruin it for the rest of us.
 
SimonK
What are you specifically referring to here? The "Touring Car" DLC for GT5?

That's not the companies fault then, is it? They're a business, if more money is to be made, they'll make it.
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There's two sides to business. The first, and argueibly the most important one, is profit. The second is whether the consumers like you. Case and point. Activision and EA are both huge companies that have good profits on a yearly basis. At the same time, they're also generally hated in the gaming community, for constantly 🤬 their consumers over. In time, this might come back to bite them.

And yes, I was referring to the Touring Car DLC. Though in retrospect, I don't remember if the car pack was more expensive than the track pack (Spa).

To McClarenDesign. I blame both. The consumers should be smart enough to realise when they're being exploited. Just as companies should look beyond just getting as much profit as possible.

You say vote with your wallet and then that you shouldn't ruin it for others. Well, fact is. The people who continue to tell companies it's ok to release DLC's at huge costs, are ruining it for those less fortunate people. Again, things weren't always this expensive.
 
Like I said in another thread consumers on the whole can be pretty dumb. That's exactly why as you say they're willing to pay £10 or whatever it is for a map pack in a FPS. It's basic supply and demand and until the demand disappears the DLC will be there.

We still do have a choice though, I don't buy the 'dividing the community' argument. So you can't drive a car someone else did? It's not going to destroy your enjoyment and if you really want that car, you buy the DLC.
 
Jawehawk
To McClarenDesign. I blame both. The consumers should be smart enough to realise when they're being exploited. Just as companies should look beyond just getting as much profit as possible.

You say vote with your wallet and then that you shouldn't ruin it for others. Well, fact is. The people who continue to tell companies it's ok to release DLC's at huge costs, are ruining it for those less fortunate people. Again, things weren't always this expensive.
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Consumers are stupid, and that doesn't show any signs of changing anytime soon. As much of a hot topic this is, I would think your outrage would be doubled if games get fully tied to consoles, negating the used games industry, as is currently being discussed by manufacturers.

Rest assured, there may be an eventual backlash against DLC, and the market will change again. Again, the value of DLC- even at its current pricing, is still a bargain compared to other forms of entertainment. Where I live, $12 is lucky to buy you 1 movie ticket for a current movie, likely a remake of someone else's idea (as is so popular in Hollywood), and those prices have increased as time goes by. Where's the outrage for that? Same with cable TV.

Inflation happens, its all in how/if you justify your purchase, and how you calculate value. For me, and the countless hours I play, its a tremendous bargain.
 
Jawehawk
Let me guess. You're the type of person who'd happily pay more than you paid for the actual game, on DLC? I'd rather that PD focused entirely on GT6.
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Forza four does just this.. for the price of one hundred Twenty dollars! LOL
Little big planet takes the bag tho.. 200+ dollars for EVERYTHING!
 
Jawehawk
I think you missed my point. Creating a livery for a car, and changing a few numbers is not a lot of work. Thus charging money for it is rather ridicules. Espicially when the company would be better off doing more important stuff.

And btw. A few years ago, DLC was either free or very cheap. The one and only reason companies are starting to raise the price on less content, is because people don't think before buying. Started with CoD and there utterly ridicules map packs. And now continues with BF3, Gears of War 3, and Forza 4. GT5 also had their fair share with the first car pack (I'm not saying the cars aren't nice, but they hardly required a ton of work to justify the price).

Those of us who don't have a ton of money, suffer because people are telling the companies that it's completely ok to charge a lot of money for very little content. This was not the case a few years back.
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That's rich! If you don't have the money, don't buy it. People like myself work hard and have expendable cash ($$).
The "ton of money" statement is a dead argument. The cost of DLC is cheaper than a dinner at a cheap restaurant. The dinner will leave you but the DLC will always be there hahaa..
 
TheeFrogmanlego
Forza four does just this.. for the price of one hundred Twenty dollars! LOL
Little big planet takes the bag tho.. 200+ dollars for EVERYTHING!
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Not to mention paying monthly to play online. Thank god for Sony. I would do anything for love...

...but I won't do that.
 
Aye, the "dividing of community" arguement isn't well suited for the GT5 DLC. I'll admit that was poorly thought out on my part. In a game like Forza 4 where half of the cars(?) are DLC, it doesn't exactly do wonders to the community, if you want to host league racing and such.

I of course can't tell people not to buy certain DLC's, though I can (and will) encourage them to think twice about doing so.

If you look at the price of the DLC's, without comparing them to anything, then sure. They're cheap. If, however, you compare the combined DLC cost with the cost of the full game, then you'll see the problem. The amount of content VS price doesn't add up.

And to Bobby-Vegas. I'm not saying that everything should be free. Just that things like the Touring car DLC, that require very little work, really should be free. When adding real cars and tracks (espicially tracks) to a game, it makes sense to do so at a price, as licensing costs money.

But most of my DLC complaints aren't related to GT5. The issue is far more evident in games like LBP, Forza 4, BF3 and CoD. I miss the good 'ol days. :)

Anyway, I think we've gotten as far in the debate as possible. Thanks for the civil debate guys.
 
Jawehawk
Aye, the "dividing of community" arguement isn't well suited for the GT5 DLC. I'll admit that was poorly thought out on my part. In a game like Forza 4 where half of the cars(?) are DLC, it doesn't exactly do wonders to the community, if you want to host league racing and such.

I of course can't tell people not to buy certain DLC's, though I can (and will) encourage them to think twice about doing so.

If you look at the price of the DLC's, without comparing them to anything, then sure. They're cheap. If, however, you compare the combined DLC cost with the cost of the full game, then you'll see the problem. The amount of content VS price doesn't add up.

And to Bobby-Vegas. I'm not saying that everything should be free. Just that things like the Touring car DLC, that require very little work, really should be free. When adding real cars and tracks (espicially tracks) to a game, it makes sense to do so at a price, as licensing costs money.

But most of my DLC complaints aren't related to GT5. The issue is far more evident in games like LBP, Forza 4, BF3 and CoD. I miss the good 'ol days. :)

Anyway, I think we've gotten as far in the debate as possible. Thanks for the civil debate guys.
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DLC has always been a 'premium' asset in Forza and now GT5. If they charged a price relative to the real game they wouldn't make any money on it, making it worthless to waste their time on it. So therefore it comes at a premium price, if you want it now you pay the premium. If you don't want to pay the premium, it's likely to appear in the next game on disc for $60.
 
Jawehawk
Anyway, I think we've gotten as far in the debate as possible. Thanks for the civil debate guys.
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Your hair is stupid.

Sorry, wouldn't be GTP with a civil debate... also, debating civilly is against the AUP. lol.

For what it's worth, this is the ONLY game I buy DLC for.
 
Ix-M0NTANA-xI
Why havent we recieved better cars over the last couple months? Im an original gt player, oldschool. Where is the doanload content? Very suprised at how poor polyphony digital proceeds with game content. quit giving us garbage. This game is a disappointent for true ADULT GT FANS. I dont care to hear responses from children who were in daipers when i started playing gran turismo.
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Seriously, the amount of complaining and whining is ridiculous. You claim to be a true "adult" fan of Gran Turismo yet you complain about lack of additional content. This game is the first of the series to contain DLC, yet I find more people complain that it needs more. GT4 was amazing, and it didn't have any DLC. Why aren't you complaining about that? DLC shouldn't make or break a game, only add to it. I'm sure if Polyphony Digital Release GT6 with very little content but monthly DLC, most people would be pissed off. Take what you got and be thankful that you're fortunate enough to own this game....Talk about first world problems...
 
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