Disappointment with dl content anyone???

[salikriaz]

Sorry to bust in on this debate.. but you realize an angus deluxe meal from McDonalds:

Is more than the Route X DLC by itself right? Wouldn't you rather spend it on a dlc than be tempted to eat that.....

Just a thought.

 

[Tornado]

The "ton of money" statement is a dead argument.

So is "don't buy it if you don't like it." Especially when used against someone saying that DLC is causing companies to rip people off; and particularly when phrased in the... interesting way that you did it.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I think DLC is EVIL to games. I mean, DAY 1 DLC? No thanks.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Forza four does just this.. for the price of one hundred Twenty dollars! LOL
Little big planet takes the bag tho.. 200+ dollars for EVERYTHING!

8 monthly packs at $7 ($56 for 80 cars, though you could've had the first 60 for only $30 with the Season Pass, making the total $44), and $20 for the Porsche pack (30 cars).

Your math is off. But even then, I look at the cost-per-car, and it's better than Gt5's DLC. And that's before I take into consideration the more desirable metal in FM's DLC (though that's a personal preference).

Aye, the "dividing of community" arguement isn't well suited for the GT5 DLC. I'll admit that was poorly thought out on my part. In a game like Forza 4 where half of the cars(?) are DLC, it doesn't exactly do wonders to the community, if you want to host league racing and such.

It's less than a quarter of the current total. But you have a point, it can cause issues with leagues. FM4 does give away one free car from each month's pack (to ensure all users can see the DLC cars they're racing against), but they're usually the least-desired car in the pack

I of course can't tell people not to buy certain DLC's, though I can (and will) encourage them to think twice about doing so.

Agreed. Which is why I've only bought DLC for my racing games...

If you look at the price of the DLC's, without comparing them to anything, then sure. They're cheap. If, however, you compare the combined DLC cost with the cost of the full game, then you'll see the problem. The amount of content VS price doesn't add up.

Of course it doesn't: neither did Prologue, technically. But like many other consumer products, you're also paying the price of being an early adopter. Sure, I could save the money I spent to drive the Aventador and V12 Vantage in GT5, knowing that it's pretty much a sure thing they'll be in GT6, but considering how long that wait might be, tossing a few dollars their way to use them now was worth it. For me, anyways.

And to Bobby-Vegas. I'm not saying that everything should be free. Just that things like the Touring car DLC, that require very little work, really should be free. When adding real cars and tracks (espicially tracks) to a game, it makes sense to do so at a price, as licensing costs money.

But most of my DLC complaints aren't related to GT5. The issue is far more evident in games like LBP, Forza 4, BF3 and CoD. I miss the good 'ol days.

But your example is GT5. I agree about the Touring Car Pack, and while I can't speak of the FPS games (never play them), FM4's DLC does involve real cars, so like you said, licensing costs money. As for LBP DLC: most of it is costume packs, small micro transaction DLC they're hoping will chip away at players wallets, but for me, as it's largely visual and offers no discernible difference to gameplay, it's different from the racing game DLC. Most new cars in the racing games do bring with them a new experience, and it a buck a pop or less, I don't think thats bad at all.

Fighting games are pretty bad for DLC too: $5 per character, and costume pack after costume pack. Racing game DLC, to me, is one of the best deals of its kind out there.

Anyway, I think we've gotten as far in the debate as possible. Thanks for the civil debate guys.

I certainly understand your point of view, FWIW 👍

 

[Ix-M0NTANA-xI]

i started this post. i just think that we should have recieved better quality of dlc and that the game its self should have better MODERN cars. street and race cars.A few more real life tracks couldnt hurt either.... after all we did wait years and years for gt5......now i need to wait years and years for gt6..... which will probably be half azzed too. LAME!

 

[symustafa1996]

i started this post. i just think that we should have recieved better quality of dlc and that the game its self should have better MODERN cars. street and race cars.A few more real life tracks couldnt hurt either.... after all we did wait years and years for gt5......now i need to wait years and years for gt6..... which will probably be half azzed too. LAME!

You really don't sound like a civilized adult to me. They do have better modern cars. The Golf and Scirocco R, the Aventador and V12 Vantage. Even the Leaf. But it's not all about modern cars. It's about significance, like the Beetle and the 2012 GT-R, as GT-Rs are always part of GT. And Spa and Motegi? Imagine you are PD. You know how hard it is to model cars and tracks? And acquire licenses in the first place? We waited like what, 5 years for GT5? And they gave us Prologue.

It's not about better quality of DLC, it's about what YOU want. They deliver, you look down upon them.

 

[TokoTurismo]

You really don't sound like a civilized adult to me. They do have better modern cars. The Golf and Scirocco R, the Aventador and V12 Vantage. Even the Leaf. But it's not all about modern cars. It's about significance, like the Beetle and the 2012 GT-R, as GT-Rs are always part of GT. And Spa and Motegi? Imagine you are PD. You know how hard it is to model cars and tracks? And acquire licenses in the first place? We waited like what, 5 years for GT5? And they gave us Prologue.

It's not about better quality of DLC, it's about what YOU want. They deliver, you look down upon them.

+1 I see some people still haven't got over with the whole 5 years thing yet. Who told them to even wait for GT5 in the first place? They make me laugh. Go do other stuff other than waiting for a game...

I used to get mad when GT5 doesn't get enough DLC, but than I realize that DLC may make a game better, but sometimes it doesn't. It'll even get abused by making a DAY 1 DLC, or even charge more for them, which is just low IMO. DLC is cool yes, but when you see them in the next game, I always say this. "What was the point then? They'll be in the game..." Really, what's the point? What. For more play time? For some other games that's different.

 

[MustangManiac]

Why havent we recieved better cars over the last couple months? Im an original gt player, oldschool. Where is the doanload content? Very suprised at how poor polyphony digital proceeds with game content. quit giving us garbage. This game is a disappointent for true ADULT GT FANS. I dont care to hear responses from children who were in daipers when i started playing gran turismo.

Being an original GT player makes one "old school" now? I started gaming on a Trash-80 Co-Co II back in the 70's...I must be ancient school

 

[JackC8]

Well obviously I'm disappointed that they include junk like a Nissan Leaf and a '66 VW Beetle in car pack 3, and 3 karts in the racing car pack. And still no premium Veyron? That's just a crime.

And of all the tracks in the world, they decided to add that Twin Ring Montegi. Good lord, just thinking of all the really cool tracks in GT4 they could have updated, and we got that bland, featureless thing.

Oh well, I'm used to this stuff by now. Polyphony Digital is just one inexplicable decision after another after another. Thankfully there are more than enough other racing games out and coming out to keep my racing needs well satisfied.

 

[Gejabo]

Well obviously I'm disappointed that they include junk like a Nissan Leaf and a '66 VW Beetle in car pack 3, and 3 karts in the racing car pack. And still no premium Veyron? That's just a crime.

And of all the tracks in the world, they decided to add that Twin Ring Montegi. Good lord, just thinking of all the really cool tracks in GT4 they could have updated, and we got that bland, featureless thing.

Oh well, I'm used to this stuff by now. Polyphony Digital is just one inexplicable decision after another after another. Thankfully there are more than enough other racing games out and coming out to keep my racing needs well satisfied.

Given the choice between a Veyron and a Beetle I'd take the Beetle anyday.
That's all down to personal taste.

As far as the track question we don't know yet if motegi is the only track we'll get.
In fact we don't even know if we get any tracks. to be honest.
Maybe they were working on it or GT6 and thought lets use this for GTA.

Just like they did with the Daytona track in 2010 (if I'm correct) That track was not in GT5p but still they used it in GTA

 

[RX-7_FD3S]

I dont agree that DLC are garbage until now. Not at all. The test course was pretty ******, but SPA is just awesome, I love the TC car pack too, there's some awesome car in it. The aventador is pretty cool also. Sure it's a bit pricy but thats how it work now. At least we didnt get day 1 dlc.

I also like Twin ring motegi a lot, it's a nice technical course with many challenging corner. I dont see why people are always complaining. Be happy for once.

People want more car/tracks, PD add more tracks/cars2, people go on complaining, for god knows what reason.

 

[cuco33]

I don't get why people are hating on DLC so much. If anything, you should be complaining about why PD bothered releasing a glorified demo and charging you $40 for it rather than working on the full fledged title or adding DLC to continue supporting the game and keeping it fresh.. or why work on so many side tracking projects (just look at PD's own website) without growing the team or outsourcing any work. That all comes down to pure as day mismanagement.

But with DLC, which is the norm in today's day and age, I welcome it all pending it isn't some BS like paint chips or race suits and helmets or race mods of cars already in the game that should have been free (1000+ cars and we got 19 RM, then an additional dozen or so but were called 'TC'... really????).
Cars and tracks is all you need for DLC in a racing game. New events are more than welcome as well. My favorite DLC in GT5 (and it's main competition FM4) is Spa track. But I have to be honest, FM4 has such a better car DLC list it isn't even funny...

Still have PSN funds waiting for GT5 DLC4 to drop, if it ever drops. I'm guessing soon as GTAcademy is over, we'll be getting Twin Ring Motegi track as DLC which I won't mind at all. I quite like the track in other games. But I just want DLC of any GOOD kind. Make it happen PD!!

 

[Tornado]

At least we didnt get day 1 dlc.

Stealths, Chromelines.

The payment method was different, but the end result is no different.

 

[Jawehawk]

Stealths, Chromelines.

The payment method was different, but the end result is no different.

I don't think you can compare the Chromeline and Stealth cars to DLC. First off, they are fairly exclusive. Second and most importantly, the CE and Signature edition came with so much more. Like a very comprehensive book giving a ton of driving tricks.

This might be up to opinion, but I really don't see them as being similiar to DLC cars.

 

[F40LM]

I am happy to pay PD for their hard work on Gran Turismo, they have done well with all of their GT games.

They need the funding obviously as they take such a long time to make a sequel where as other games such as Forza and Project Gotham can do the same work with much less effort.

Just pay for the DLC or save up, if you can't get the funds then offer a trusted GT player a alternative to money like you'll send loads of decent cars or tickets and paints and everything you can for.
It would be best if you could replace your gamesave before sending the stuff.

Try to think what do people want?
For example the Lamborghini Miura P400 Bertone Prototype CN.0706 '67 costs loads of ingame money and can't be traded.
So what can you do for someone who wants one, send loads of 1967 birthday tickets to the person who wants them.

I am one person who would do that from trading both sides but not at the moment
Also before you even consider trading like this, make you are in the same region as them or have a same account located in the same region

EDIT - I have bought US PSN codes that were emailed to me before.