Do I really need a wheel?

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Sorry I'm late to the party, here. I kicked major ass in the previous four versions, (Feel free to check my previous posts) I finally got a PS3 & GT5 a couple months ago... (What can I say, as you get older, priories change)

Anyway, is it me, or is GT5 THAT much harder? Understeer seems to be the name of the game... My biggest problem has been the Dream Car Cup. I used my Mazda Frienza (?) Concept with someone's tuning from here... I can't believe how relentless the AI is & how sensitive the car is!!

I mean, on a curve, an AI will get into me from any angle & spin me the hell out! It's never been that bad! :ouch:

I've been fine, 'til now but has it really gotten so demanding? What's a decent wheel & pedals go for now, anyway?
 
You should be able to find a Logitech Driving Force GT around for 120/140$ new. That's all you need, really. It's a great wheel and trust me it makes a massive difference not just in your driving but your enjoyment of the game. You won't look back.
 
I really like my G27 on wheelstand pro. Solid feel and well anchored. I think u were using the Mazda Furai concept (from B spec NR-A). That car is great for anything its eligible in A spec except for Like the wind and All stars. For dream car championship, Zonda R works well too. Surprise u find the AI relentless cos there are many whining about weak AI and AI giving up too easy during overtake.
 
Badger-X-
You should be able to find a Logitech Driving Force GT around for 120/140$ new. That's all you need, really. It's a great wheel and trust me it makes a massive difference not just in your driving but your enjoyment of the game. You won't look back.
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I totally second. 👍
You will drive it's a different experience with a wheel.
You won't regret it.

At the beginning you'll get, probably, worse lap times, but it's just a matter of practice.

I own a G27 and I love it. The DFGT is a good wheel by the way.
 
No, you don't need a wheel. I can beat many wheel users online with a DS3. It just takes some practice. You will probably end up faster with a wheel though.
 
GfxJG
No, you don't need a wheel. I can beat many wheel users online with a DS3. It just takes some practice. You will probably end up faster with a wheel though.
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+1,
You don't need a wheel to enjoy this game and you probably don't need a wheel to beat this game. That being said, a wheel would make it easier for you possibly.
 
It's not just about speed, getting a wheel makes the game much more enjoyable and fun, though it does take a while to learn. Catching oversteer for example was massively difficult for me at first, but once you learn you will probably be faster than you were with the controller. The Logitech Driving Force GT is an excellent choice for a wheel. It's reasonably priced and has a pretty good feel to it. The pedals could be more solid, but for its price it's an excellent wheel. If your willing to spend more, you can get even more out of your game with the high-end wheels, such as the G27 or the Fanatec wheels.
 
It took me about 4 days,playing about 2hours per,to really feel comfortable from the dualshock to a wheel. Highly recommend the wheel,great fun. Got my g25 for about $130.00
 
I like my DFGT so much, I pretty much don't want to play without it now. That being said, it took me several weeks to be as fast as I was with my DS3, but it has been more enjoyable to whole time. It made F1 2010 playable for me too, I just couldn't drive that game with a DS3.
 
I have been using a wheel since GT4 and I honestly can't imagine ever playing with a controller again. It is just such a different experience with a wheel.

You don't "need" a wheel. As you said priorities change as you get older and it does depend how much time you are going to spend playing vs the cost of the wheel. A Logitech DFGT is a very good wheel to start off with and you can pick one up for $100-120. I used that wheel from GT5:P coming out until a few months ago when I upgraded to a T500RS.....it's a very good wheel which will completely change the game for you.
 
^ remember with a wheel you can have a drink or a smoke while going down a straight. Can't do that with a controller..
 
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Catching oversteer for example was massively difficult for me at first, but once you learn you will probably be faster than you were with the controller.
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My girlfriend bought me a DFGT for Christmas and I hated how unrealistic the oversteer was. During a period in the year when real roads were bad and my real car would lose the back end, I knew exactly how to correct it. Applying the exact same opposite in the game for a car starting to oversteer nothing happened. Then when I applied even more than what was realistically needed, the car would flick the other direction, eventually spinning out. I had the wheel returned to the shop before New Years Eve, totally disappointed. Is the G25 or G27 similar to the DFGT in this respect, or totally different? I cant see me forking out for a T500.
 
R063R
My girlfriend bought me a DFGT for Christmas and I hated how unrealistic the oversteer was. During a period in the year when real roads were bad and my real car would lose the back end, I knew exactly how to correct it. Applying the exact same opposite in the game for a car starting to oversteer nothing happened. Then when I applied even more than what was realistically needed, the car would flick the other direction, eventually spinning out.
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I had this problem originally, I think correcting at 100+ mph is different than correcting at 60. For me, I had to counter steer faster, and not let off the throttle as much.
 
Yes you should get a wheel. I played GT4 with a controller, but with GT5 decided to invest the money in a wheel and it makes the game so much more realistic and enjoyable. I got the DFGT and it's great with good feel, probably better to get that then spend the money on a g25 or g27 straight away.
 
I struggled to get on 3rd with a controller with the campevan on the top gear test track challenge but beat it first go with my wheel.
 
Do you need a wheel in order to beat the game (gold medal on any event)? No, every event is gold-able with a pad (yes, Vettel challenge is totally doable with a pad) thanks to sensitivity adjustment.

Do you need a wheel to be untouchable online/amazingly fast/Div1 standard? Yes, you need a wheel if you're going for that (yes I know there are some insanely fast players with a pad but those are like <100 people) since majority of people can never drive at their full potential on a pad.


For a wheel - get Logitech G27, best wheel by far.
 
R063R
My girlfriend bought me a DFGT for Christmas and I hated how unrealistic the oversteer was. During a period in the year when real roads were bad and my real car would lose the back end, I knew exactly how to correct it. Applying the exact same opposite in the game for a car starting to oversteer nothing happened. Then when I applied even more than what was realistically needed, the car would flick the other direction, eventually spinning out. I had the wheel returned to the shop before New Years Eve, totally disappointed. Is the G25 or G27 similar to the DFGT in this respect, or totally different? I cant see me forking out for a T500.
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I'm not entirely sure, but I think this might be because of the fact that you don't exactly feel what the car is doing in the game. In reality you can feel the g-forces and get better sense of what the car is doing, and therefore you might be able to catch the slide earlier. I think the road conditions have a lot to do with it too. I'm sure that predictably losing the back end at 60kph (on a very, very slippery, winding finnish winter road, and with poor winter tires) in my 130hp fwd car would feel very different than suddenly losing grip at say, over 120kph with a rwd sportscar with plenty of power.
 
599GT
Do you need a wheel to be untouchable online/amazingly fast/Div1 standard? Yes, you need a wheel if you're going for that (yes I know there are some insanely fast players with a pad but those are like <100 people) since majority of people can never drive at their full potential on a pad.
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This is not true. DS3 tappers (that's what I like to call them because they tap the left and right arrows and gas brake) can be just as fast in this game as someone with pedals and a wheel.

I race nightly between 375-600pp and there are drivers that baffle me with their ability to keep up with a controller. If you know how to tune, it can be beneficial to go lock-to-lock with the push of a button. They simply have to memorize how many taps it takes to make it around certain turns. They might not be as smooth around the sweeping turns of Daytona or Indy...but it won't slow them down any bit.
 
Using a decent wheel tales your gran turismo experience to a whole new level. O have used a dfgt for a few years now and to be quite honest to begin with I really found it a frustrating experience. It takes considerable tine to get used to a wheel but if you put in the effort, it really adds a whole new dimention to racing. You can feel every bump on the road, feel just when your tires are losing traction and feel the overall character of each car. Honestly once you buy a wheel you never get truly bored of driving like you do using a controller.
 
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I'm not too sure about the 'feeling tires lose traction' bit. Sure, you can feel the rear end coming around, but in my experience you get absolutely no feedback at all from the wheel when the front tires are losing grip. Even if you turn the wheel to full lock at very high speeds, the steering doesn't go any lighter at all. This is my biggest gripe with GT5 really. In some other games (Ferrari Challenge, for example) you can actually feel the steering go light when the front tires are losing grip.
 
Yep, get a wheel. A Logitech Driving Force GT is what I've got, and I never use my DS3 anymore.
It's MUCH more manageable, and you'll be faster in the end too.
It's also a lot more fun to be honest. Adds a lot to the whole driving experience.
 
GT was fun with a controller, but after getting a wheel I can't imagine playing with a DS3. It's a STEEP learning curve though being able to drive as fast with a wheel as you did with a DS3, but the end result is worth it.

Go for a Fanatec wheel with clubsports. 👍
 
No you don't need a wheel.

I only use my wheel when I'm trying to go as fast as possible in a time trial or an online race. Or I want it to feel more realistic.

But sometimes I can't be bothered and I'll just use the controller.

It's easy to beat the AI with the controller and I can usually win an online race too
 
Playing gt with a standard controll is as enjoyable as eating soup with a fork.. Its posible but Why not use the spoon instead?

You lose the most importent dimension if you arnt using a wheel with at least sport-shifter. Imho
 
R063R
My girlfriend bought me a DFGT for Christmas and I hated how unrealistic the oversteer was. During a period in the year when real roads were bad and my real car would lose the back end, I knew exactly how to correct it. Applying the exact same opposite in the game for a car starting to oversteer nothing happened. Then when I applied even more than what was realistically needed, the car would flick the other direction, eventually spinning out. I had the wheel returned to the shop before New Years Eve, totally disappointed. Is the G25 or G27 similar to the DFGT in this respect, or totally different? I cant see me forking out for a T500.
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I don't think it's unrealistic. The steering input I need to countersteer feels correct. The only problem I have is that I can't turn the wheel as fast as in a real car and it doesn't allow to do it in a smooth motion for some reason. This makes the response when you need to heavily countersteer slower which in turn leads to overcorrection: by the time you should normally have your wheel straight, you're still turning
 

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