Do you have to 'grind'

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It would help (slightly) if the 24 hr ring enduro unlocked at 38 or 39, so you could use it to gain xp. Instead of it unlocking at 40 and paying out loads of xp, which goes to waste

You get roughly 1,086,576 XP (level 32). To reach level 40, you need another 29,774,616 XP.
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Scary numbers. 1/29th of game completion
 
bobd
You get roughly 1,086,576 XP (level 32). To reach level 40, you need another 29,774,616 XP.
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to be more accurate:

There are 34.634.713 XP-points to go from level 0 to 40, so you will be half the way at 17.317.357xp.

This equals level 36 (16.514.189xp) reached plus 803.168xp.

The mentioned level 32 only adds to 6.150.902xp which is 17,8% of gameplay.
 
I've come to the realization and accepted that I wont drive the endurance races. I'll let the B-Spec mode drivers do those.
 
What happens at level 40? Will I attain enlightenment and spiritual one-ness with the universe?

I think instead of driving for the sake of reaching level 40, I'll just drive for the sake of driving until level 40 happens to show up. One is grinding, one isn't, and they both lead to level 40.
 
I got to level 40 a couple of days ago and no, I didn't attain enlightenment, reaching level 40 didn't make me a better person, but I guess it's only a game...
 
You've got to grind to get level 40,but if you like your cars, do them up & race them. I like to win at least 10 races with each. If GT5 were like the other GT's, I would race each car until it paid for itself. Too bad that's almost impossible in GT5 because you can't win multiple cars over & over again.
 
ElSecundo
What happens at level 40? Will I attain enlightenment and spiritual one-ness with the universe?
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Well for me enlightenment kicked in with level 32:
  • It's not worth chasing for level 40 for just reaching it. So I stopped grinding for XP
  • With ~450 cars I've got most most of the different models and a decent power range form 2CV to X2010 so I don't need money for other purposes as for maintenance and some missing tuning-upgrades. So I stopped grinding for CR.
  • Doing online-races in all types of cars (e.g. 2CV on Eiger-K :sly:) is more fun than driving in Indy-circles all the time.
  • Perhaps I'll reach level 40 without intention in some month/years
 
If you think "OMG I've got to get to level 40 within 3 months of buying the game" then yes, you'll probably have to.

If you just want to enjoy the game, then no. No you don't. If you're of the "OMG" mindset, maybe you should question why you feel the need to get to level 40, and to do it as quickly as possible?
 
Tonnie073
And in real life there is no level system, or xp
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Yes, that was my point, really: we're playing a game, so we should stop comparing GT5 to a real life racing career all the time. Some of the decisions made for GT make you wonder whether PD realize that they're selling GT as a game on a games console - and not as an application for a rather boring fulltime job.
 
charliec
If you just want to enjoy the game, then no
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I just want to enjoy the game too. But doing the same things over and over because I've run out of events to do within 2 weeks is not *my* fault, but PD's (i.e. the unforgivably short A-Spec career).

If they give me something fun to do for the months to come, I'd be extremely happy, but alas, PD got lazy and expect us to get the fun out of the online component of the game (which I am not interested in at all).

I.e. the grind will come sooner rather than later for most people.
 
brambos
I just want to enjoy the game too. But doing the same things over and over because I've run out of events to do within 2 weeks is not *my* fault, but PD's (i.e. the unforgivably short A-Spec career).

If they give me something fun to do for the months to come, I'd be extremely happy, but alas, PD got lazy and expect us to get the fun out of the online component of the game (which I am not interested in at all).

I.e. the grind will come sooner rather than later for most people.
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Fair point. I play in private lounges with friends so I guess I'm not as burned out. If I didn't have that outlet I'd definitely be more unhappy about the limited offline content.
 
I don't grind.
I race when I feel like racing, when I don't I just mess about.
I'm not rushing for anything, I'm just enjoying the game I'll play for years to come.
 
Never grinded. Never done the same event twice, except for attempting to "Gold" one that I'd previously failed at.

I was on 29 for ages, and saw a point to getting to 30, but for me there might as well be infinite more levels above. I just don't see the point in trying to get to 40, much less in doing something as crappy as "grinding" in order to get there.

Does anyone know why it's 40? Does that number have some kind of significance?
 
sprplay
Well for me enlightenment kicked in with level 32:
  • It's not worth chasing for level 40 for just reaching it. So I stopped grinding for XP
  • With ~450 cars I've got most most of the different models and a decent power range form 2CV to X2010 so I don't need money for other purposes as for maintenance and some missing tuning-upgrades. So I stopped grinding for CR.
  • Doing online-races in all types of cars (e.g. 2CV on Eiger-K :sly:) is more fun than driving in Indy-circles all the time.
  • Perhaps I'll reach level 40 without intention in some month/years
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It's amazing how a simple mindset completely removes the grind from the game.

Apparently, because there is a 40th level out there somewhere, this creates a need in some people to just keep pounding at the game, earning cash and experience as fast as they can until they reach this completely arbitrary and pointless number.
 
Yev
I don't grind.
I race when I feel like racing, when I don't I just mess about.
I'm not rushing for anything, I'm just enjoying the game I'll play for years to come.
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Exactly.

Do you want to get to level 40 more than anything? Well, I guess you have to "grind." If you want to pick a car you like, take it to a track you like, and have some fun, than you will not have to grind. Level 40 is just..."level 40." It doesn't mean you're a good driver. It doesn't mean you're a GT Pro or could cut it in a real race. It means you've either enjoyed the game for a loooong time, or you have some weird video game obsession to reach the highest pinnacle even though it's meaningless.
 
It's only grinding if your rushing through the game trying to get to level 40. I'm at level 39 A-Spec and after finishing my second 9hr Tsakuba race and maybe one more 4hr Nurburbring, i'll be at level 40.

If you think it's bad now, then god knows how you felt before the 1.06 patch.

Try using different cars/experimenting with different set ups etc and repeating these endurance races you like, instead of this rubber band lark because that isn't how the game was designed to be played. If the game feels like a grind, don't play it because your clearly not enjoying it.
 
Don't worry, next update they'll put A-spec to level 60... I've done the 4 hours Nürb. like 3 or 4 times, don't remember and two 9 hours Tsukuba, and I'm sorry but for me it felt like grinding, like other people pointed out, if there were more events we wouldn't have to repeat races 3 or 4 times... And remember that the Iso of the game is about 19 gigas or something like that, they had plenty of time and space to add more events... But I like the game so much, I haven't played anything else since it came out, and I'm not the only one, but the game is far from being perfect.
 
ElSecundo
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It's amazing how a simple mindset completely removes the grind from the game.
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Wow, lots of people really don't get the point.

It's not about getting to 40. It's about being done with the game by the time you hit 34. After that point you've done virtually everything there is to do at least twice. The game is way too short, resulting in a grind because the game leaves you wanting more... but there isn't anything more. Just repetition.

Ofcourse I would love to enjoy this game for years. But how am I supposed to spread 2 weeks worth of content over 2 years? By limiting myself to playing only half an hour per week?
 
Dennisch
No, you don't have to grind, but if you don't, you have to do a gazzillion online races, which actually will be a grind. So Yes, you need to grind. Lol.
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You don't need to read this post, but if you don't, you have to read a gazzillion other posts, which will actually be reading posts. So Yes, you have to read this post. Lol.
 
ElSecundo
What happens at level 40? Will I attain enlightenment and spiritual one-ness with the universe?
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Bing. Trophy unlocked. That's it. And you get to race the 24-hour Nurburgring event.

Compare GT5 to a genre where leveling is the norm...RPGs.

In well-designed RPGs, the game is designed so that way you reach the level required for the event from routine gameplay without grinding. Only the poorly-designed RPGs require the user to spend countless hours grinding just to advance the game. If you're playing a well-designed RPG and grinding, the only reason you would do this is to over-level your character. It isn't required for basic game progress.

If the level up system was designed well in GT5, then by simply driving your career events you should have leveled up enough to unlock the next race as soon as you get there without the need for grinding. That's not the case in GT5. The next race for me in B-Spec is the 24-hour Nurburgring...and I've been grinding for days to get to level 40 to unlock it. Should finally have it tomorrow after multiple Le Mans 24-hour races. That's poor design, plain and simple.
 
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brambos
Wow, lots of people really don't get the point.

It's not about getting to 40. It's about being done with the game by the time you hit 34. After that point you've done virtually everything there is to do at least twice. The game is way too short, resulting in a grind because the game leaves you wanting more... but there isn't anything more. Just repetition.

Ofcourse I would love to enjoy this game for years. But how am I supposed to spread 2 weeks worth of content over 2 years? By limiting myself to playing only half an hour per week?
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You spread it out by playing online. Find the right people and then you will forget all about a and b spec.
 
gambleboyen
If you only play offline, you not only have to grind to reach level 40, you also have to grind to get access to all endurance races.
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wrong, You can get to the endurance races by doing all the special events. I have never had to grind in A-spec. B-spec is another story.
 
Do you have to Grind (repeating races over and over again for the sake of gaining experience and money vs fun of just completing the race.) to get to level 40. Depends on what your time frame is and the reason behind your goal of reaching level 40.

If your goal is to just reach level 40 and no time constraint, then NO you do not have to grind. Have fun and just race. Note, it will probably take you a year or two to reach level 40 and a lot of online racing.

If your goal is to just reach level 40 in a short time frame (4 – 6 months) then yes you will need to grind and or rubber band.

My goal is to buy every car in the game. I have done hours and hours of grinding via rubber bands and have reached level 40 in both A spec and B spec. Once I reached level 40 in both A spec and B spec I found I still needed around 80 million credits to buy all the cars. As of today I still need 35 million credits to buy the last three cars I need. So I am back to grinding. I have not done any trading or gifting to get all my cars (Over 1070 cars, I have some duplicates).

Once you reach level 40 you get a trophy and your experience meter goes black. However I still play the game and anxiously await new seasonal events. I still have a few races to complete and a few license I need to gold. The bottom line is I still have fun playing the game no matter what my current goals are. Next up is getting my last 3 cars and grinding out 35 million more credits.
 

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