Do You Like The Car Trading Limit?

[TJC_69]

What does that even mean?

I'm pretty sure he meant that you would get bored with GT5 quicker if you could just get all the cars that you wanted quickly and easily.

 

[Exorcet]

I'm pretty sure he meant that you would get bored with GT5 quicker if you could just get all the cars that you wanted quickly and easily.

Which makes no sense to me.

Regardless, there's no need for a trade limit. If you get more fun by denying yourself content, then deny yourself content, Don't deny other people content.

A rational reason for the trade limit this thread has yet to see.

 

[TJC_69]

Which makes no sense to me.

Regardless, there's no need for a trade limit. If you get more fun by denying yourself content, then deny yourself content, Don't deny other people content.

A rational reason for the trade limit this thread has yet to see.

That's your opinion yes. Just out of curiosity how many cars do you have and are there any your'e fed up of driving?

 

[Bobert power]

The trade limit should be two cars a day. The million cap is good and bad. I will say the good thing. There is no X1 trades anymore. It will also make you look for the dream car you want. I spent forever looking for a Sauber Mercedes C9. But i wish it was a C8.

 

[Exorcet]

That's your opinion

When the opinions stated by others and their reasons don't match, there is a problem.

Having to wait for cars isn't how the game is "meant to be played"

Having to spend eons trying to get a car won't make you a better driver.

And having it all from the beginning won't make it boring for everyone.

Because of the above, the assertions made that the credit limit serves some purpose is baseless. It just the use of logic.

Just out of curiosity how many cars do you have and are there any your'e fed up of driving?

Why does that matter at all? What matters is that poor game design prevents me from enjoying the game. I'd like to drive a W12 Nardo from time to time, but that is not easy to do in game. How many cars I have does not change this.

If for some reason, getting cars quickly subtracts from your game, just don't use methods that give you cars quickly. The limit isn't helping anyone. It is actually taking away from a lot of people.

 

[TJC_69]

Well Exorcet, I could break down every point you made there and turn it around.... Truth is that I cba. I have 982 cars in my garage ( different models ) , I don't need to trade, i've purchased 95% of them outright. If you play the game through to buy cars from the UCD or the OCD you will find every car you're looking for.

Sounds to me like you want every car in the game at day 0 , maybe your'e new to GT5 ?

Anyways , if you don't like the way you have to " wait " or " work " for the cars in your garage , then Forza 4 with it's 200+ cars is just waiting for you around the corner.......💡

VW Nardo you say ? Bought that 6 months ago....

 

[Tornado]

That's your opinion yes. Just out of curiosity how many cars do you have and are there any your'e fed up of driving?

It isn't a matter of opinion. People are saying that the trading limit is a good thing for the game to have, and their justifications for it are nonexistent or faulty.

And since the the trading limit puts a major hamper on how other people play the game, those justifications need to be sound for the opinion to be valid. Otherwise the only thing it comes off as is "I like it this way and screw you for thinking differently."

Well Exorcet, I could break down every point you made there and turn it around....

I really doubt that you can.

Anyways , if you don't like the way you have to " wait " or " work " for the cars in your garage , then Forza 4 with it's 200+ cars is just waiting for you around the corner.......💡

Get out of here with this garbage. PD made the game the way it is. There is nothing stopping them from reverting it back to the way it should have stayed.

 

[TJC_69]

@ Toronado.....
Seriously ???

 

[Exorcet]

Well Exorcet, I could break down every point you made there and turn it around.... Truth is that I cba. I have 982 cars in my garage ( different models ) , I don't need to trade, i've purchased 95% of them outright. If you play the game through to buy cars from the UCD or the OCD you will find every car you're looking for.

Sounds to me like you want every car in the game at day 0 , maybe your'e new to GT5 ?

Anyways , if you don't like the way you have to " wait " or " work " for the cars in your garage , then Forza 4 with it's 200+ cars is just waiting for you around the corner.......💡

VW Nardo you say ? Bought that 6 months ago....

I bought GT5 on release day.

You've managed to get 900 cars including the W12, but I did not. I could have if the game made all vehicles available from the beginning. I very likely would have one at this point if the trade limits were removed. So my point still stands, the limit only brings harm.

What exactly did you expect to point out by saying that you have a large garage and a particular car? That anyone could do the same? That the trade limit isn't a hindrance? That it's supposed to be done your way? Non sense.

Your Forza comment holds now weight, as might as well be gibberish.

 

[TJC_69]

You guys do realise this game is meant to last you until GT6 Prologue right ?
Justification enough ?
Or do you guys just want to trade 1000 cars per day......?

 

[Wiggs]

I personally don't like the trade limits or the million credit cap.

 

[TJC_69]

I bought GT5 on release day.

You've managed to get 900 cars including the W12, but I did not. I could have if the game made all vehicles available from the beginning. I very likely would have one at this point if the trade limits were removed. So my point still stands, the limit only brings harm.

What exactly did you expect to point out by saying that you have a large garage and a particular car? That anyone could do the same? That the trade limit isn't a hindrance? That it's supposed to be done your way? Non sense.

Your Forza comment holds now weight, as might as well be gibberish.

Release day purchase also.....
Just proving my point. The limit doesn't bring any " harm " as you say , you just want an easy version of GT5 where , I don't know , your first car is an X1 ! Great idea , i'd love to live in your version of reality....
Debate over.

 

[Techy]

I'm pretty sure he meant that you would get bored with GT5 quicker if you could just get all the cars that you wanted quickly and easily.

I think I see what you're saying: If the trading limit was to be extended, it would open more opportunities to receive cars as long as it's under the 1 million limit, yes? That would result in a bit lesser work to obtain them (they are still many cars under 1 million that are very rare in terms of UCD/ticket rarity), in the exception of tickets. But still, that doesn't make true sense to me.

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GT5's fun factor possibilities is quite endless: You could trade for the rest of the game, you could join racing series and race for the rest of the game, or you could even practice on car photography for the rest of the game. Not every person would do all of that, and just depends on the person's desires, interests, and wishes. And whatever the player decides will most likely keep them busy at it for many months, possibly years at a time.

 

[Exorcet]

You guys do realise this game is meant to last you until GT6 Prologue right ?
Justification enough ?
Or do you guys just want to trade 1000 cars per day......?

That is justification to remove the limit. If it's meant to last long, don't including frustrating, illogical, and unneeded features like the limit.

I hope that you are not unable to enjoy things for a long period of time. It would be upsetting for me to need to have a slow trickle of content to be able to make the game last long. I'd much rather be able to enjoy something based on quality rather than how it is presented to me.

Release day purchase also.....
Just proving my point. The limit doesn't bring any " harm " as you say , you just want an easy version of GT5 where , I don't know , your first car is an X1 ! Great idea , i'd love to live in your version of reality....
Debate over.

There is nothing wrong with having the X1 as your first car. Though you would have the same problem as you do now. There would be 999 other cars to get. A bit of a waste of time.

And easy? How would the game be made easier? How is it even hard in the first place. I race online. Whatever's in my garage has no impact on difficulty. Offline is a boring chore, and difficult is not a valid adjective to describe it. Time consuming and uninteresting suit it well, IMO. I'd rather not deal with that and just enjoy the game. The limit is one of the things getting in the way of that.

 

[whiskeydic760]

I'm pretty sure he meant that you would get bored with GT5 quicker if you could just get all the cars that you wanted quickly and easily.

Dead on... Thanks

 

[whiskeydic760]

@ Toronado.....
Seriously ???

 

[TJC_69]

@Exorcet " I hope that you are not unable to enjoy things for a long period of time. It would be upsetting for me to need to have a slow trickle of content to be able to make the game last long. I'd much rather be able to enjoy something based on quality rather than how it is presented to me. "

If you work harder at the game it will speed up your perception of a " slow trickle of content " . How is it slow ? You win 1 seasonal or A/B Spec race and 6 new cars appear in your UCD. Did you want more ? 10 , 20 , maybe 50 ? Then you would complain about not having the cash or XP level to buy all of these new cars yes?

" There is nothing wrong with having the X1 as your first car. "

Ummm yes , there is. The most powerful car in the game as your first car..... Hmmm what would that be like ? Yes you guessed it ! Hundreds of noob lobbys with X1's , and when they are bored with it no other car in the game would be good enough , or fast enough etc... Ever heard of a " progressive difficultly level ' ? I guess not...

 

[TJC_69]

Dead on... Thanks

No problem .

👍

 

[Exorcet]

If you work harder at the game it will speed up your perception of a " slow trickle of content " .

This has not happened. It's only made it more obviously that getting everything in game takes forever. Grinding a race once is one time too many.

How is it slow ? You win 1 seasonal or A/B Spec race and 6 new cars appear in your UCD. Did you want more ? 10 , 20 , maybe 50 ? Then you would complain about not having the cash or XP level to buy all of these new cars yes?

It's slow because after many months, I still need to waste time playing A-Spec instead of racing, or tuning. I don't know how many times I've run the Sarthe Ferrari event, but that time would have been much better spent elsewhere in game, except for the fact that I really have no choice but to do the event to get the cars I want.

" There is nothing wrong with having the X1 as your first car. "

Ummm yes , there is. The most powerful car in the game as your first car..... Hmmm what would that be like ? Yes you guessed it ! Hundreds of noob lobbys with X1's , and when they are bored with it no other car in the game would be good enough , or fast enough etc... Ever heard of a " progressive difficultly level ' ? I guess not...

And what's the problem? More X1 rooms would be a good thing, it would mean more places to race the thing. And however many X1 room there are, it wouldn't prevent the creation of non X1 rooms. Especially if everyone will "get bored" with X1's.

Again with difficulty. What does having to buy cars have to do with difficulty?

 

[TJC_69]

There's more than 1 seasonal race , it's not GT5's fault if you're too lazy to try out new things.....

More X1 rooms , imo , would not be a good thing ( In your idea model of GT5 that is.... )

OMG , I really can't believe I have to explain why there are difficultly levels in a GAME...... Ok , just so you understand i'll be very clear.....
As you start a new game you are learning how it works , and in doing so your skill level will increase. So at the start of GT5 alot of cars are inaccessible to you as you are , well , a GT5 noob. So as time goes on , more cars are unlocked for you in skill level ( A-Spec number ) . So , the restrictions are in place to let you gradually learn the game , not just jump in 1000 cars , or the X1 for example .......

I don't see how I can be any clearer.

 

[Xavier2342]

It would be nice if there wasn't a limit (just like Forza) but it is what is it, and I'm just going to make best of things. I just think it's weird that there are over 1,000 cars in the game and you're only limited to trading one car per day, especially when all the cars aren't readily available to purchase from the dealership at any given time. :shrug:

 

[TJC_69]

It would be nice if there wasn't a limit (just like Forza) but it is what is it, and I'm just going to make best of things. I just think it's weird that there are over 1,000 cars in the game and you're only limited to trading one car per day, especially when all the cars aren't readily available to purchase from the dealership at any given time. :shrug:

I like this guys attitude ....
👍👍👍

 

[White & Nerdy]

I hated the 1car/1mil limit when it started, and I still do.* Glad to see there are still people out there who agree.

*Due in good part to the fact that, pre-limit, I'd wanted to start the world's largest overstocked, mega-duping, multi-account trade thread. The number one source for any car, paint, horn, ticket etc. you can think of. Now all I can do is dream...

 

[Exorcet]

There's more than 1 seasonal race , it's not GT5's fault if you're too lazy to try out new things.....

They're all equally boring. Sarthe pays the best. Variety isn't going to make it any better.

More X1 rooms , imo , would not be a good thing ( In your idea model of GT5 that is.... )

To each their own.

OMG , I really can't believe I have to explain why there are difficultly levels in a GAME...... Ok , just so you understand i'll be very clear.....
As you start a new game you are learning how it works , and in doing so your skill level will increase. So at the start of GT5 alot of cars are inaccessible to you as you are , well , a GT5 noob. So as time goes on , more cars are unlocked for you in skill level ( A-Spec number ) . So , the restrictions are in place to let you gradually learn the game , not just jump in 1000 cars , or the X1 for example .......

I don't see how I can be any clearer.

I never asked why there are difficulty levels in game. I asked what buying cars have to do with difficulty. They are unrelated.

But since you've posted what you did; the restrictions (which don't make it harder) are unnecessary. If someone is a new player (which isn't even always the case after 5+ games) there's no reason to stop them from jumping into a X1 and letting them crash until they can learn to drive it. A novice does not need a limited car selection to learn, and does not necessarily benefit from such a thing. And using something like A-Spec level to measure skill is a complete joke. A-Spec level is unrelated to skill.


I certainly did not benefit from being limited at all. I already knew how to drive coming into GT5, and all I needed to do was get familiar with the physics quirks and individual cars. And even if I didn't know how to drive coming into the game, limiting my options wouldn't have helped me either. I would have been completely fine hopping into a full blow group C car and struggling to keep it on the road. It's exactly what I did in demo disk game I had a long time ago. Skipped right up to the fastest, most difficult car, and that's how I learned the game.

The only reason why cars are locked in a game is because of tradition. It's not to help new players. It just because most other games do the same thing, and for some reason developers thing it's a good thing to do. I don't agree with them.

I'd wanted to start the world's largest overstocked, mega-duping, multi-account trade thread. The number one source for any car, paint, horn, ticket etc. you can think of. Now all I can do is dream...

Not the only one. Would have been great to have let anyone get whatever they wanted in an instant.

 

[TJC_69]

I can see the reasons for your lack of understanding in my reply quite clearly.... A quick glance of your profile reveals that you were an X1 trader , and like you say , you learned how to drive the game in an X1.

So you're just looking for a return to the " Good Old Days " of GT5 , getting together with noobs at the Top Gear Test Track no doubt.......

Good luck with your idea version of GT5 , it's not coming.
Seriously bored of this pointless debate now , a noob never listens !

 

[porthillking]

PD could remove the trading limits but make it so you need to be a certain level for a car. i.e lvl 40 to get x2010, lvl 24 to get fgt. that will still let you trade for good cars but will not let begginers start with x2010's.

 

[Exorcet]

I can see the reasons for your lack of understanding in my reply quite clearly.... A quick glance of your profile reveals that you were an X1 trader , and like you say , you learned how to drive the game in an X1.

So you're just looking for a return to the " Good Old Days " of GT5 , getting together with noobs at the Top Gear Test Track no doubt.......

Good luck with your idea version of GT5 , it's not coming.
Seriously bored of this pointless debate now , a noob never listens !

Incorrect. I leanred how to drive in game primarily with the Viper ACR, which got me a good chunk of the way to level 30, where I unlocked the X1 by doing the Vettel Challenge, which I then proceeded to dupe to all who wanted since there was no reason to lock the thing in the first place.

Double incorrect in your profiling, thoughtless, and more or less pointless assumption about what it is I'm trying to do in GT5.

And this is very much a pointless debate if you're going to ignore reason and make up your own conclusions. The only thing preventing me from understanding you is that you're not using logical reasoning in your argument. But I'm patient, and I'll be willing to explain it to you until you get it.

 

[Thomas2012]

Of course not its dumb and it would make thing easier being able to send all the cars on your schedule in the one day it would make life easy and also remove the money limit

 

[conar345]

I like the trading limit. however, I think it would be better if the limit was 2,000,000cr.

 

[Crazed_Coupe]

Chill out with all the negative critiquing of almost everyone's post Exorcet. I understand everyone is entitled to their own opinion but no one wants to sit here and argue over a simple yes or no question and a short explanation.