Do you want Endurance Race in Seasonal Events?

[7945GT57945]

7HR Fiat 500's at Superspeedway Daytona

 

[XPokeManiacX]

endurance races in the seasonals would be awesome. so would some unrestricted seasonals( so i can use my new x2011 )

 

[Morgoth_666]

Yeah, I really don't see the point in really long races in Gran Turismo. There's no real point to them - only the hardcore gamers do them and they usually just do them not for fun but to complete the game.
I would maybe attempt a longer race if there was a sweet prize to be won, but Gran Turismo has always seemed too consistent for endurance races to me - it all feels to similar. Changing weather and degrading fuel/tires isn't enough, we need more variables to keep it interesting in my opinion.

Your point about them being a little bland is fair, but I'm not sure what could be added other than more cars, dirt/oil on track, and long trips to the pits(all impossible atm). Small fields are the biggest bore to me.

But many people do run them for reasons other than completion. They are the only events in A-Spec that resemble races. They are the only events in A-Spec that aren't annoyingly short. They are by far the most fun A-Spec events, and you can't do timed Arcade races.

 

[MetalJet]

As has been suggested in this thread... I agree with the 20-30 laps with pit strategy and tire wear. I'm tired of the 3 - 5 lap races. They end too fast. I haven't done any endurance races longer than 4 hours and have yet to do the two 24 hour races on B-Spec. I'm having trouble committing to 24 hours of no A-Spec... or Netflix...

 

[fillmore85]

I agree with the 40-90 minute length. As for cars and course I'm undecided. I love breaking out my Le Mans cars, but there are so many races for these cars. For the difficulty, PD could allow the opposition to drive higher performing cars. Maybe the payout could be like... Sarthe a few seasonals ago.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Yes please but don't anyone call a race less than three hours an endurance race because it isn't.

45-90 minutes is a sprint.

Tyre wear, fuel use and full damage required.

 

[Morgoth_666]

Yes please but don't anyone call a race less than three hours an endurance race because it isn't.

45-90 minutes is a sprint.

Tyre wear, fuel use and full damage required.

Very much agreed, but I'd like more of both.

But if 45-90 minutes is a sprint race(I consider 2:45 a sprint in real-world terms), what are the ridiculous 8-15 minute races throughout GT called? Gamer-length?

A very nice thing about races longer than 15 minutes is that you can set your car to only be a few tenths per lap faster than the rabbit (thus actually racing him) and/or not exploit the AI's weaknesses in traffic so much. I guess that's two things.

 

[TheCracker]

But if 45-90 minutes is a sprint race(I consider 2:45 a sprint in real-world terms), what are the ridiculous 8-15 minute races throughout GT called? Gamer-length?

A majority of club level races are no longer than 15-20 minutes. Under that amount of time might be a little unrealistic, but not massively so.

 

[Morgoth_666]

A majority of club level races are no longer than 15-20 minutes. Under that amount of time might be a little unrealistic, but not massively so.

True enough, I forgot about them since I rarely get to see any and don't have the means to participate. I think the SCCA races at the Glen I've been to were around 30-45 minutes but those are a bigger event than the typical club races I've seen on the web.

It's still difficult to really race a bot that gets a 35 second head start without running at least half an hour, but that's more to do with GT's chase-the-slow-rabbit style than race length I guess. It's not like I can't have fun in a 15-20 minute race in rFactor when I want something quick, but I usually either run longer or just do testing.

 

[TheCracker]

It's still difficult to really race a bot that gets a 35 second head start without running at least half an hour, but that's more to do with GT's chase-the-slow-rabbit style than race length I guess. It's not like I can't have fun in a 15-20 minute race in rFactor when I want something quick, but I usually either run longer or just do testing.

👍 I'd prefer a slightly longer race with closer matched opponents and a standing start to the shorter head start races that the seasonals usually throw up. But i guess PD needs to cater for all levels of player.

 

[o9lifted]

Yes! with race cars of course (sick and tired of those 4h and 9h b**s***, racing those once are enough)

Edit: 1-2 hour races would be great

 

[Mahnegold]

Maximum of 1 or 2 hours would be acceptable.

Very bad that you couldn't save endurance races in the past. Now you can, but you have to continue the race with the next start of GT5. Not able to do anything else in the game, before you have finished the race. 👎

They should introduce a system, where you can save a race and continue whenever you like. Like Microprose Formula-One Grand-Prix was able to in 1992 👍

Or enable (like in GT4) to go to the pits and give the car to the B-SPEC-BOB. So You can have a short break.

 

[Morgoth_666]

Or enable (like in GT4) to go to the pits and give the car to the B-SPEC-BOB. So You can have a short break.

I did that at Tsukuba in GT4 and had to spend every minute of the last 6 hours to make up for it. And I had practiced him a lot. Turned out to be quite a fun challenge, but not what I had hoped for.

 

[moparisgod]

I think a 1-2hr race would be fun as well. And I also agree that having Bob step in would make the endurance races less tasking 👍

 

[Ryk]

Longer races at a track would be great - childish sprint races of 3-5 laps is fair enough -

A bit like fast food - nice and easy

But some people may like a feast - I'd quite a learning curve series at a certain track.
30 minute in a More basic car
60 minutes in a faster car
and a 2 hour event in a DTM/GT style car

So many tracks have got unused pit lanes -
at 200 miler at Trial Mountain where tyre wear and fuel use could be a factor - car damage would also be nice...

Super long enduroes - why not more choice

Rewards? Seems like you get the keys to Fort Knox as it is.
I'd quite like a "Retro" feel to some of the tracks.

Maybe a special car livery on what would be a basic car.
The Herbie Stripe for a VW, Racing decals on an otherwise normal E-Type - like a pace car or a retro point to point rally car -

Maybe a blonde passenger for your Ferarri California - (I know we need a red head)
Win the 300km of Roma and the passenger is yours - just don't flip the car.

 

[optiongamers]

only if you get at least a good amount of cash but yea i hate doing a spec edundurance

 

[Gadget334]

The thought of enduros over 2 hours playing solo leaves me cold, but that's the same with real life enduros, you don't do them alone. I've completed all the GT A spec enduros except the Ring (will start this week) and have absolutely loved them. Pick a car that is going to prove a challenge to win in and then, and this is the crucial point, get a mate to join you. Do real time driver changes every pit stop (tyres or fuel) and also analyse what the competition do and change you strategy accordingly. We did the Tksuba 9 hour over 2 evenings racing and ended up winning, after 9 hours, by just 3 seconds. The tension for those closing laps was unreal, but the elation of the win worth every minute of effort.

Equally driving through the night in the rain at Le Sarth, then seeing the sunrise and swapping tyres as the track dried was also amazing.

I would love to see more enduros, especially on Seasonal events.

 

[BoostedDC2]

The thought of enduros over 2 hours playing solo leaves me cold, but that's the same with real life enduros, you don't do them alone. I've completed all the GT A spec enduros except the Ring (will start this week) and have absolutely loved them. Pick a car that is going to prove a challenge to win in and then, and this is the crucial point, get a mate to join you. Do real time driver changes every pit stop (tyres or fuel) and also analyse what the competition do and change you strategy accordingly. We did the Tksuba 9 hour over 2 evenings racing and ended up winning, after 9 hours, by just 3 seconds. The tension for those closing laps was unreal, but the elation of the win worth every minute of effort.

Equally driving through the night in the rain at Le Sarth, then seeing the sunrise and swapping tyres as the track dried was also amazing.

I would love to see more enduros, especially on Seasonal events.

Wouldn't it be cool if you could do the endurance races with 2 of your PSN Friends? Split the cash and everyone gets a prize. I know it would be next to impossible to do through the network, but it seems like it would be fun.

 

[Mac K]

I wouldn't mind them, but I wouldn't be heartbroken without them. They would have to be tough though, If I'm spending a lot of time on something, it has to be worth my while.

 

[BoostedDC2]

I wouldn't mind them, but I wouldn't be heartbroken without them. They would have to be tough though, If I'm spending a lot of time on something, it has to be worth my while.

It's a double edged sword. You try and pick a car that will be competitive but if you lose, you just wasted a lot of time.

I wish you could make setup changes to the cars during pit stops which could help with this. Not pause the game or anything, make it so you can change the setup in the pits while the race is running.

 

[Racin-Rev]

No!

 

[Gadget334]

It's a double edged sword. You try and pick a car that will be competitive but if you lose, you just wasted a lot of time.

I wish you could make setup changes to the cars during pit stops which could help with this. Not pause the game or anything, make it so you can change the setup in the pits while the race is running.

In a way you can. Choose a car that is barely competitive with Sports Soft tyres, and if you find later in the race you are too far behind, switch to Racing Hard or Racing Soft at the pitstops to make up the time

 

[Cainius]

Anything longer than 1-2 hours is too much. Between 30 minutes and 90 minutes is probably your functional 'sweet spot'.

 

[Auraxir]

Laguna Seca 200 miles would be cool

 

[Auraxir]

Loved the Indy 500 and the Grand Valley 300 km
Indy 500 A-Spec was one hell of a challenge, i didn't have the formula GT back then, Pwnd the competition in a ridiculously overpowered C60 Hybride Judd

 

[gtnoobie]

Yes. An hour race in seasonal with ability to choose range of tires like in a spec and weather change and/or day and night transition would be nice. We can then choose weaker tire than AI and make up for that, if necessary, later. Heavy damage on so that a crash would cripple the race. With that a level 21,22,23,24 tickets would be nice.

 

[Toyinster]

Doing the 90 laps of Laguna Seca right now (taking a short break). I think as some people have suggested - 1 to 2 hours is enough, I'm not looking forward to the 9 and 24 hour races - and rarely attempt this series for the entire time I have had the game.

So yes, would like short endurance race in seasonals (is an hour endurance?)

 

[shepzki]

Yes, I would like to see some Endurance races in the Seasonal Events, why not? Although, in comparison to the regular seasonal's the prizes would have to be extremely large to hold my interest, and if there were ticket rewards they would have to be able to be won more than once.

 

[Flagmo-T]

defiantly NoT!! Simple answer hehe )

Or if they should be, they should be as a new kind of events, so the normal ones we already have, also is there, then it's a choice, and that's the best thing in Life )

 

[Jakob79]

Yea I ll be up for that like a Real JGTC seasonal 2 hrs or 90 mins race lenght.
like
suzuka 300 KM
Fuji 500 KM
Tokio R246 250 KM
Suzuka (wather change) 250 KM
Trial Mountain 250 KM

or like a classic endurance series (each 1 hr racelenght)
Daytona Road course
Laguna Seca
Monza
Nürburgring
Suzuka
Fuji
eligible for either group C or LMPs