Does anyone like the Spoon Civic Type-R

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There was a Subaru Legacy Mail Wagon in my dad's shop with over 400,000 miles on it, and also a B-series with over 300,000 miles on it...
 
At a local car show yesterday, there was a '78 VW bus on display that had 196,000 miles on it's original Porsche engine. They had the service log books and everything to prove it, too. (And no, it wasn't a rusted out tie-dyed hippie van, either!)
 
Originally posted by neon_duke

Care to bet? I know somebody who uses their Neon for courier service making medical deliveries. That Neon has about 350,000 miles on it at last count. Original engine. Several clutches, yes, but original engine. There are some known over 200,000 miles and many well over 100,000.

Unless I get tired of it there is nothing preventing my Neon running 200,000 miles, just like my old Supra, and just like my Civic before that. FWIW I have a '67 Pontiac in my garage that just rolled over 270,000 miles.
Consumer Reports (Retards) be damned, the Neon is just not made of tin like people think it is. I have nothing against Japanese cars. I just do not think they are the only choice available.
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well every neon has its day, :lol:
but if you compare to which one obviously lasts longer... WELL DUH!? the civic, & your right about the civic costing more but in the end the resale value is a better for the honda...
 
ok, i'm not bashing the **** out of the neon. i like neons. i just like CTR's better. plus, i said just about now way, and you've replaced clutches. my accord was totaled @ 114,000 and ran like new. not one single replacement. wait, no....stereo....
 
Fair enough. BTW I didn't mention it, but I also had a Civic 1500 hatch that went almost 300,000 miles before getting totalled. It looked like crap, but it still ran!
 
I must say, everyone here has a good argument, but it is very rare to see either of them burn a Supra, RX-7 or Viper. Who is to say which car is better. It is the driver that makes the difference in this situation. We can all argue over this and throw facts at each other. Start getting time slips and throw those around here and see who can drive their car better. I think that is the only way that we can resolve this dispute.
 
Whoops forgot to add, I love using the Spoon CTR. after screwing with it, it handles great for being an FF car. Any chance I get to use it, I do
 
I mostly like japanese cars over american cars. But i recognize the neon acr + R/T as being great cars. especially for roadracing and autoX. I like hondas, but definately like hondas less because of all of the fanboys. Sad to say it, but i would never drive a civic in the united states because of all of the other ppl that drive them. you know them, young kids, thinking theyre so cool, reading super street etc. BTW im 17, not an old man.

Oh so weare going to use FF as a valid source of information now? HAHAHAHAHA. Letme see if i can remember some of the things that cracked me up from that movie.

-An SR20DET in a civic.
-Turboing a high compression spoon engine
-Some dumb kid (who is supposed to be some kind of genius) taking on an s2000 with his pink 4 door FWD jetta

I personally think japanese cars are more advanced than american cars. but where are all of these ppl coming from thinking the same thing, but based on misinformation. i think they just hear someoene say something really stupid and know no better than to believe it.

When it comes to torque VTEC power rules? no way in hell.

You do know other cars have variable valve timing. Its just that they dont have a gimmicky name for it. :) hahahah
 
BTW damn i want to see that miata. that much power in such a light RWD car. I hope you dont only drag race it. thats a waste of such a fine car.

where do you live? near minneapolis?
 
naw man I live in Florida, but I got two setups for it. One for Dragging and the other for drifting. When I get my digital camera, I'll send some pics.
 
**** neons, and CTR would eat a ****ing neon alive. Not to mention Neons can't handle a tenth of what a CTR can handle.
 
ok, on a reply dated 7 27 some sed that in the fast and furious they saw no neons and only honda civics saying thats y they were better. This doesnt mean that the neon is worse bc in that movie dunt forget theres over 20 grand under the hood... u can do that with any car. i hate all hondas except for the NSX but i wouldnt want no neon ether... all im saying is i wuld probably take the neon over the honda civic. Only because a car is in a movie, it doesnt mean its better than a car not in a movie. to be honest with you american cars are the best ;)
 
Originally posted by VetteFerrViper
ok, on a reply dated 7 27 some sed that in the fast and furious they saw no neons and only honda civics saying thats y they were better. This doesnt mean that the neon is worse bc in that movie dunt forget theres over 20 grand under the hood... u can do that with any car. i hate all hondas except for the NSX but i wouldnt want no neon ether... all im saying is i wuld probably take the neon over the honda civic. Only because a car is in a movie, it doesnt mean its better than a car not in a movie. to be honest with you american cars are the best ;)
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Whoa! STOP.... Please, I mean PLEASE go and do a spell check before you post anything else.

Also, maybe you do not like the Civic, but I hardly believe that it sucks. Just because it is not what you prefer does not mean that it plain sucks.
 
well no offense to the people who like civics but if you look at there stats... they kinda just plain suck theres a lot of average cars for under $20,000 that are better than them.
 
Yo man, I got a bottom of the end civic and I am managing about 37 mpg with over 117,000 miles on it, now I actually have respect for the Neon, it is another good car for the same price. That is the bottom line, and if you think different then cool, you have your right to your opinion, but to hate something that is a strong emotion to use for an inanimate object
 
The REAL purpose of this thread is for people to realize that Honda is a car of distinction..... mainly because it's an import.

We're not talking about cheap domestics.

VTEC power! :D
 
No, you're talking about cheap imports instead. Honda makes nice cars. But that's all they are. They are not god's gift to the automotive world, VTEC does not beat everything, and the big H is not the only manufacturer worth considering

Stop being a fanboy and admit that there are other good cars in the world. Unquestioned prejudices will only serve to keep your mind narrow and your experiences limited.

Remember, another way to think of VTEC is that it comes off of economy mode rather than coming on to 'power' mode. Dollar for dollar any Neon will run against any Civic without fear.
 
TypeR--
ok....Honda without VTEC = 90-100 ft-lb.
Honda with VTEC = 110-125 ft-lb.

celicas with "VVT-I," which is essentially the same as VTEC, produce WAY more torwue than that. Honda's are NOT the serious racing machines people so often mistake them for.


VetteFerrViper--
"American cars being the best-"

i had an '88 civic with more torque STOCK than a '99 dodge avenger.
 
I agree with J2s, most hondas that are on the road were not made specifically for racing or performance. Their major market is for realiablity. Now that doesn't mean hooking an accord up a with a nice engine and other aftermarket parts is wrong, but when they designed these cars at first none of the Honda engineers knew that they would be popular the way they are. The one thing that makes civics so popular is the B series engine. It is like the GM 350 block. THere are so many after market performance parts out for both these engines, so there are a ton of things you can do to it. Now, if Neons, Mirages, Proteges and cars of such had the resources of aftermarket parts Honda has, then I feel they would be just as popular. As of lately more and more manufactures are putting these parts on shelves and in magazines.
 
Originally posted by j2s
ok....Honda without VTEC = 90-100 ft-lb.
Honda with VTEC = 110-125 ft-lb.
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Neon - totally stock, base engine = 130 ft-lb torque.
Read it and weep.
VetteFerrViper--
"American cars being the best-"

i had an '88 civic with more torque STOCK than a '99 dodge avenger.
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One thing you need to undertand - the Avenger is a reskinned Mitsubishi Eclipse, nothing more, nothing less. I don't qualify that as an American car, or even a Mopar, despite the name plate.

Ever seen a stock Civic with more power than a stock Omni GLH? I haven't.
 

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