Does anyone use medium tires?

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Do you use medium compound tires?

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No matter comfort, sport or race, it just seems the game does not need the medium compound since all the races require either hard or soft compound, and so far I have not seen any car come with medium compound tires from stock, so I'm just wondering when to use them?

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I've bought a few cars that come with CM as stock, but I can't remember ever seeing a car come with SM or RM, although I may have just not noticed.
 
Yes, i use CM and SM tyres quite often.

If the race calls for max racing hard...i choose sports mediums or hard
Likewise......................Sports hard = comfort mediums or hard

Choosing tyres 2-3 grades lower makes racing more competitive and fun against Ai.
 
I used them for endurance races, mostly the one at Le Sarthe with the "glitchy" tyre problem after entering pit stops. Using Racing medium ensures you making only 2 stops. (both times using the same tyres also)
 
Verbal
Do a lot of hotlapping with stock cars on CM tires, the grip level feels more natural...
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This.

FussyFez
Your poll is flawed. I use them when I feel it's necessary. It can be a nice compromise of grip and feel.
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And this.

Comfort Mediums represent the grip level for most cars in real life, even supercars. For me it doesn't matter what tires come stock with the car, they always have more grip than real life stock tires.

Comfort Mediums also come stock in GT6 with the slower cars like Ka, original Mini and others.
 
I always use comfort medium for cars which i think have such tyres in real life.
For example on a mr2 gt-s, honda civics, muscle cars (maybe they should have comfort hards) and so on, everything thats a mild sports car or old.
 
psavi
This.


And this.

Comfort Mediums represent the grip level for most cars in real life, even supercars. For me it doesn't matter what tires come stock with the car, they always have more grip than real life stock tires.

Comfort Mediums also come stock in GT6 with the slower cars like Ka, original Mini and others.
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So if I want to get the closest to real feel of the production cars, CM is the correct choice?
 
Yes ..... I start career races with around 100pp and two tyre grades less, so if the tyre max is race hard I use sport mediums etc.
 
Fire Yoshi
I only use mediums to create understeer or oversteer.
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand this logic in the slightest. Would you fit different compounds front and rear in real life?

Yes, but only for wear. Never, as far I'm aware, for grip reduction to alter handling?

This isn't directed at you specifically. I have seen many people posting similar and I can't for the life of me understand it, when there are plenty of other settings to help balance the car. Different compound tyres front and rear, as far as I'm concerned, could never give proper balance.
 
I must say I somehow only switch between SH and CS, using CS mainly and SH only to re-create something like a semi-slick for trackdays at the Ring. Thanks to your suggestions I might have a go on CMs more often. Don´t believe CMs are the proper tires for a supercar though, that´s a bit exaggerated.
 
Flaco13
I must say I somehow only switch between SH and CS, using CS mainly and SH only to re-create something like a semi-slick for trackdays at the Ring. Thanks to your suggestions I might have a go on CMs more often. Don´t believe CMs are the proper tires for a supercar though, that´s a bit exaggerated.
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That's when i use mediums.

If I want a track day type tyre, they tend to come in 2 compounds in real life. Whilst sports softs can have too much grip, 600bhp can be much more fun with sports mediums than hards.

I wouldn't be putting comfort mediums on a supercar. Most super cars nowadays come with super soft Street tyres. What I would say is along the lines of sports hards. It's a shame PD hasn't done 2 special tyres. Super soft comforts for super cars (only available as standard on super cars, not purchasable for other cars) and a drift tyre to keep those guys happy aswell.
 
FussyFez
That's when i use mediums.

If I want a track day type tyre, they tend to come in 2 compounds in real life. Whilst sports softs can have too much grip, 600bhp can be much more fun with sports mediums than hards.

I wouldn't be putting comfort mediums on a supercar. Most super cars nowadays come with super soft Street tyres. What I would say is along the lines of sports hards. It's a shame PD hasn't done 2 special tyres. Super soft comforts for super cars (only available as standard on super cars, not purchasable for other cars) and a drift tyre to keep those guys happy aswell.
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Yeah I think the same way, 600bhp on SM should be about right, got to try. And good idea those super soft comforts! I also feel like there´s a gap between SH and CS. 👍
 
It definitely depends on the car. Something like the 86 GT, I would use comfort hard tires if I'm hotlapping (which is most of the time). Something with more power/performance, I would use comfort medium tires. I would use them for a WRX or the early '00s Corvettes.


I use comfort medium tires for drifting. I do that though.
 
TomatoFK
So if I want to get the closest to real feel of the production cars, CM is the correct choice?
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That is correct.

My pastime since GT5 is fitting cars with different tires and lapping the Nordschleife (or Tsukuba if the a real Ring lap is not available) and comparing with real life lap times to see if that compound is representative of the one in real life.

This could raise a lot of discussion about me comparing myself to professional drivers and stuff, but considering that I can retry lots of times and I can restart if I crash, it is not hard to believe that even my sub-par driving skills can produce similar lap times to real professional ones.

From my experiments, most supercars from late 80's to early 2000's (like Honda NSX, McLaren F1 and Ford GT) would fit CM tires. Only some most modern supercars need CS to match lap times.

FussyFez
I wouldn't be putting comfort mediums on a supercar. Most super cars nowadays come with super soft Street tyres. What I would say is along the lines of sports hards. It's a shame PD hasn't done 2 special tyres. Super soft comforts for super cars (only available as standard on super cars, not purchasable for other cars) and a drift tyre to keep those guys happy aswell.
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Actually, that is not accurate. Have you seen the tires used for the Zonda R Nurburgring record? Almost-not-street-legal-semi-slick tires? Well, I can match that lap on Sports Hard. And I expect that people faster than me, even driving a realistic lap without cutting much the corners, can shave maybe 10 seconds of that time.

Now have you ever seen a supercar come stock with that kind of tire? They don't. They come with comfort tires.

Here is an interesting link about the Huayra and its lap on the Top Gear test track:

http://jalopnik.com/pagani-admits-they-used-two-sets-of-tires-for-top-gear-450547430
 
I use Medium Sport as my "go to" tire for personal laps. Habit from GT5. Maybe I'll give the Medium Comforts a go.
 
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psavi
Have you seen the tires used for the Zonda R Nurburgring record? Almost-not-street-legal-semi-slick tires? Well, I can match that lap on Sports Hard.
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They didn´t use semi-slicks but slicks on the Zonda R Nordschleife record. Yellow labeled PZeros.

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http://www.pagani.com/en/zonda/zonda_R/default.aspx
 
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FussyFez
I'm sorry, but I don't understand this logic in the slightest. Would you fit different compounds front and rear in real life?

Yes, but only for wear. Never, as far I'm aware, for grip reduction to alter handling?

This isn't directed at you specifically. I have seen many people posting similar and I can't for the life of me understand it, when there are plenty of other settings to help balance the car. Different compound tyres front and rear, as far as I'm concerned, could never give proper balance.
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I'm talking about a video game, not real life. It works, it's quick, so I do it.
 
psavi
That is correct.

My pastime since GT5 is fitting cars with different tires and lapping the Nordschleife (or Tsukuba if the a real Ring lap is not available) and comparing with real life lap times to see if that compound is representative of the one in real life.

This could raise a lot of discussion about me comparing myself to professional drivers and stuff, but considering that I can retry lots of times and I can restart if I crash, it is not hard to believe that even my sub-par driving skills can produce similar lap times to real professional ones.

From my experiments, most supercars from late 80's to early 2000's (like Honda NSX, McLaren F1 and Ford GT) would fit CM tires. Only some most modern supercars need CS to match lap times.



Actually, that is not accurate. Have you seen the tires used for the Zonda R Nurburgring record? Almost-not-street-legal-semi-slick tires? Well, I can match that lap on Sports Hard. And I expect that people faster than me, even driving a realistic lap without cutting much the corners, can shave maybe 10 seconds of that time.

Now have you ever seen a supercar come stock with that kind of tire? They don't. They come with comfort tires.

Here is an interesting link about the Huayra and its lap on the Top Gear test track:

http://jalopnik.com/pagani-admits-they-used-two-sets-of-tires-for-top-gear-450547430
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Whilst all this may be true.

In my opinion. When trying to recreate R888 etc tyres, sports hard and medium are prefect.

I am no super car expert.

But, I do enjoy some tasty rubber.

Whilst browsing for new tyres for my own car, I regularly find tyres that are only available in super car sizes, and run a different 'special' compound and tread pattern.

Comparing real world times is a bit silly in my opinion, the virtual lap will always be more committed and have more big risks and liberties taken. I have no doubt that you can match any real world times. But the truth in the matter is, most real world Nordschleife times, whilst being impressive, they are compromised due to self preservation on the drivers (and sometimes the manufacturers) part.

Those pirellis are an excellent example of my initial point. Please link me to some in 195/50/15, as I'd love some. But I doubt you could source some on that size, of that exact tyre model. (I have no doubt that pirelli sell slicks in that size, but I mean that exact model of tyre)

Please don't take this personally. We all have opinions.

What is you real life experience of nice rubber? I have been through many types of road and semi slick Road legal track tyres. I find comfort soft is pretty close to top end normal rubber, like pilot sport 3, parada spec 2 etc. This is on personal experience. Sports Hards feel like medium compound R888, and sports medium similar to soft compound 888.

Never been on slicks. But a friend of mine was using ex btcc slicks, and he said they were similar to sports soft in terms of lateral G's.
 
I never go below CS for anything. SM are for some supercars, with SS reserved for cars that have "unique" handling. RM is for prototypes, or GT cars with ridiculous amounts of power.
 
I used SM tyres to improve the handling on a car usually fitted with SS tyres.
Cheap and cheerful way for me as a driver to tune a car without having to do any virtual damper settings or sway bar fettling or tickling the differential. Or spring rates or toe in.

Lets the car remain almost stock.
 

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