Does the anticipation of the next update demonstrate overall dissapointment in GT5?

[another_jakhole]

lol opinion .

Ok Im just kidding but really. I've given my stance, and it has nothing to do with trollolollloing.

What you've said was all truth. It really was. It wasn't trolling. Trolling is when you say Forza3 has better physics than GT5.

I've read enough and seen enough interviews to know when something's wrong and why some things happened the way they do. Stuff that has nothing to do with GT5, but with previous versions.

 

[MoGoSpeed]

I just want a mean of understanding. Would any of us go up to Kaz in conversation.. and be like DARNationss on you for wokin' so hard but not making what I wanted!

I assume he would look at you and be like... really.

 

[Tornado]

Seriously though, naysayers, where are the sources?

Sources for what?

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/748/748610p1.html

They were different projects.

That doesn't mean anything in regards to the content PD created for GT:HD. PD wouldn't just trash all of that stuff. They would transfer what they had done and build off of it.

I mean, GT4 and GT5 were different projects. Almost all of GT4's assets still ended up in GT5.

I'll say it again. PROGRAMMING. Do you anything about it?

Quite a bit, actually. Do you?

 

[another_jakhole]

You also said the cars handled better didn't you? So physics wise was it better then? That's the way I read your post.

Yes I did. But I also said the Cappucino felt heavy. And I tried the Miata, that felt heavy. And I didn't mention it, but I was using a DS3 because the DFGT isn't compatible with GT HD. It only felt better because I actually had to try to drift with those stock cars, as heavy as the physics engine was. Using a DS3.

 

[Tornado]

And I didn't mention it, but I was using a DS3 because the DFGT isn't compatible with GT HD.

Yes it is.

 

[another_jakhole]

Sources for what?


That doesn't mean anything in regards to the content PD created for GT:HD. PD wouldn't just trash all of that stuff. They would transfer what they had done and build off of it.

Programming for different games. They shifted their focus onto GT5, a different project.

I mean, GT4 and GT5 were different projects. Almost all of GT4's assets still ended up in GT5.

Different systems, different programming.

Quite a bit, actually. Do you?

Somewhat. Have you ever tried simulating driving physics on a burdensome PS3?

If you know quite a bit about programming, you know you can't just say something to make it work.

 

[BradKinder]

Matchmaking is coming, people, DO NOT FEAR!

(testing my lame new sig)

 

[another_jakhole]

Yes it is.

I only saw the Driving Force Pro and other wheels that weren't DFGT. So, I didn't try it.

 

[another_jakhole]

Newbs, listen. GT5 never runs at 60fps. Stop rambling about PS3/360 graphics. They are all a bit higher than SD, but a lot lower than 1080p. It's all upscaled, blurred, and well under 60fps. ALL OF IT. K?"

Newb, listen, what other game has visuals that compare to GT5's photomode?

 

[another_jakhole]

Newbs, listen. GT5 never runs at 60fps. Stop rambling about PS3/360 graphics. They are all a bit higher than SD, but a lot lower than 1080p. It's all upscaled, blurred, and well under 60fps. ALL OF IT. K?"

Newb, listen, what other game has visuals that compare to GT5's photomode?

And that's what me and MoGoSpeed were talking about. Condescending, belittling.

You're just a jerk with no cause.

 

[Richrollin25]

Completely agree with Tornado.

GT1 was on a new system, GT3 was on a new system, GT5 prologue has better textures and is higher resolution!

GT1, 2, 3, 4 and 5p were all polished to perfection and have a classy premium feel that is lacking in GT5.

Maybe you're new to the series and GT5 is the only one you've played, but for us who grew up with and played every one GT5 is an unfinished project.

The saving grace in the game is the truly awe inspiring races online with good clean racers!

Kaz should stop trying to be a celebrity and focus on what he was once a master at!

A-man you say what I believe real fans of this game think is by far the worst out of the series

 

[another_jakhole]

I just want a mean of understanding. Would any of us go up to Kaz in conversation.. and be like DARNationss on you for wokin' so hard but not making what I wanted!

I assume he would look at you and be like... really.

Exactly. None of us can even imagine the stress they go through to produce GT5. Why would they want to damn their hobby/livelihood/passion because they're stupid and lazy? The Japanese are the last people to even care about doing that.

Kaz stated before he had a better change in going pro in Europe and the US than he did in Japan. Isn't it obvious why? The racers out there are passionate and completely dedicated. He loved cars since he was 3, at the latest, and he thought about the idea of GT5 when he was 15. He programmed a game sometime before that age. Why would he want to deliver a so-so project?

 

[BradKinder]

Newb, listen, what other game has visuals that compare to GT5's photomode?

Nothing, I guess... But, like, if you go outside... There are real cars you can take pictures of. Cameras are kinda expensive though... But still.

GT is about racing. Photo mode is neat, but it's just a little too late to show off what next gen systems will be able to do in real time. By the time GT6 comes out, every car in the world will be some ugly low performance automaton anyways...

 

[another_jakhole]

A-man you say what I believe real fans of this game think is by far the worst out of the series

It's Amen. And your sources? lol

 

[Tornado]

Programming for different games. They shifted their focus onto GT5, a different project.

And they would then transfer all of the content that they had put together to GT5 so that they had something to build off of. There is no reason that they wouldn't do it.

Different systems, different programming.

Assets. Assets. Not code. Not the physics engine. Assets.

If you know quite a bit about programming, you know you can't just say something to make it work.

I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that reusing code that you know works is basically the biggest time/headache saver that a programmer will ever have.
And I therefore know that if PD had this fully-working game that they decided to cancel (which they did), they would salvage as much as possible in order to save themselves some time and effort when they moved on to the next project.

I only saw the Driving Force Pro and other wheels that weren't DFGT. So, I didn't try it.

Any game that supports the DFP will support the DFGT. The DFGT is backwards compatible with the DFP's control protocol, just like the DFP was with the original Driving Force.

 

[another_jakhole]

Nothing, I guess... But, like, if you go outside... There are real cars you can take pictures of. Cameras are kinda expensive though... But still.

GT is about racing. Photo mode is neat, but it's just a little too late to show off what next gen systems will be able to do in real time. By the time GT6 comes out, every car in the world will be some ugly low performance automaton anyways...

Great. Let's move on. You see how I called you out and then you started being polite? Jerk JERK JERK

 

[another_jakhole]

How long did it take to develop the game?

It took about 5 years. But to put that in perspective, it also took the first Gran Turismo five years to be created. What that tells us that this is more or less the amount of time required to make a product at this level.

https://www.gtplanet.net/yamauchi-interview-reveals-more-on-gt5-development/

read more because a lot of you haven't researched anything about the game. I've reading into it for quite a while now because I have no responsibility at the moment. Knowledge is useful.

A-man

 

[trk29]

I only saw the Driving Force Pro and other wheels that weren't DFGT. So, I didn't try it.

Just some advice. We all do it but not repeatedly. You are double posting almost every other post.

I am curious have you played GT through GT4?

All of what is going on right now is because of it. People are used to the content of the previous games and now most feel we have a polished stripped down version of GT4.

Take for example Hideo Kojima. Every Game he produces comes out better and better imo and many others. So MGS4 was his first game on the PS3 and it does not let down many.

My point in bringing this game up is this is what Hideo does, he makes Metal Gear games and Kaz makes Gran Turismo games.

They are both used to their one genre and are thought they are the kings of what they do. So to see their favorite game with less features is what all the hub bub is about.

 

[Richrollin25]

It's Amen. And your sources? lol

dude **** you the game sucks and you know it your just to stupid to figure it out I mean all you have is to correct my spelling WOW I'm sorry that you didn't play GT2 the greatest one out of the whole series I'm just glad I didn't buy the $100 one and got mine second hand for $20 off craigslist

 

[another_jakhole]

dude **** you the game sucks and you know it your just to stupid to figure it out I mean all you have is to correct my spelling WOW I'm sorry that you didn't play GT2 the greatest one out of the whole series

Feisty.

 

[MoGoSpeed]

Exactly. None of us can even imagine the stress they go through to produce GT5. Why would they want to damn their hobby/livelihood/passion because they're stupid and lazy? The Japanese are the last people to even care about doing that.

Kaz stated before he had a better change in going pro in Europe and the US than he did in Japan. Isn't it obvious why? The racers out there are passionate and completely dedicated. He loved cars since he was 3, at the latest, and he thought about the idea of GT5 when he was 15. He programmed a game sometime before that age. Why would he want to deliver a so-so project?

This is the main thing out of everything.

 

[robbo6]

I've come to the conclusion that a few people on the forum have their tongues firmly attached to Kazs llower intestine and are utterly incapable of accepting criticism of their beloved GT5.

I mean going on about phototmode?!! Yeah it's nice....but does that make it a better "game", it's just some eye candy on the side. I'd take Forza 3s offline mode over GT5s photomode EVERY time, and I'm fully utilising GT5s photomode (and enjoying it, but ot NOWHERE near makes up for GT5s shortcomings....in fact by letting me move freely around the tracks it's let me view the crappy tracks in all their awful PS2 glory).

The physics in GT5 are very good (for a console) and indeed are better in most ways to Forza 3s. But GT5 has some serious physics issues, the brake balance system is completely wrong...I can lock up the rear wheels on a car with ZERO rear brake force, HOW is that possible and it's not down shift lock ups either as I tested it without down shifting at all. (I do not select ABS on pre 1990 cars or race cars). The tyre temp is not calculated middle, inner, outer....which I'm sure anyone with a passing knowledge of tye physics will say is hugely wrong....watch a real tyre technician do a temp test on a tyre and see where he takes the temps.

Jakhole and the mogospeed are just completely blinkered fanboys of the highest order and I'd take the opinions of a single celled amoeba with more credibility than theirs.


incidentally I agree with the OP.

 

[another_jakhole]

Just some advice. We all do it but not repeatedly. You are double posting almost every other post.

I am curious have you played GT through GT4?

All of what is going on right now is because of it. People are used to the content of the previous games and now most feel we have a polished stripped down version of GT4.

Take for example Hideo Kojima. Every Game he produces comes out better and better imo and many others. So MGS4 was his first game on the PS3 and it does not let down many.

My point in bringing this game up is this is what Hideo does, he makes Metal Gear games and Kaz makes Gran Turismo games.

Metal Gear has a story to tell. Kaz has realism to provide. People thought the cutscenes were too long and hated it. The fans who loved the story loved it.
GT can only do so much. What else do you want? It's not a CoD because that's an arcade game. It's not Metal Gear, because that's an amazing game with a beautiful story. Don't compare GT5 to anything that doesn't strive to be a SIM.

Considering all that, you want Kaz to keep GT5 like GT1 and GT2 and GT3 were. Every single map, menu, song, and sound effects those had. Learn to accept change.

I've come to the conclusion that a few people on the forum have their tongues firmly attached to Kazs llower intestine and are utterly incapable of accepting criticism of their beloved GT5.

Different opinions. Nobody's wrong unless you're looking at GT5 as a video game arcade shooter that has a story that can keep the series growing.

You're too late though. I'm going to watch something funny. Dirty Sanchez funny.

 

[musomaniak]

Wah wah wah... go play Online you'll never be bored. The game is what it is... they spent more time in certain parts than others..... and that's the way it works. and some of you statements are complete BS.... the Game is fine, and will only get better.

PS im tired of all this BS 6 years development time when they also created a PSP game and a prologue. And the expectectations of different cars in the standards... they didn't remodel standards... they imported them from the other games so of course your gunna get multiples... Gtfunkout witht that bull.

oh yeah it would be very nice to race online if i could actually get online , 9 times out of 10 i get error messages , or "you have been disconnected from the server" when trying to enter a room.
i also play shift 2 , dirt 3 , f1 2010 , and i have never had this problem with any of those

 

[Richrollin25]

Feisty.

yeah wow see like i said thats all you got

 

[MoGoSpeed]

Really Robbo?

I've already said I'm aware of criticism, and stated my stance.... to start throwing out "fanboys"..... what the funk... have we succumb to little kid language . I've said what I said and it has nothing to do with "fanboism", but understanding.

 

[another_jakhole]

And they would then transfer all of the content that they had put together to GT5 so that they had something to build off of. There is no reason that they wouldn't do it.


I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that reusing code that you know works is basically the biggest time/headache saver that a programmer will ever have.
And I therefore know that if PD had this fully-working game that they decided to cancel (which they did), they would salvage as much as possible in order to save themselves some time and effort when they moved on to the next project.

You couldn't have said that earlier? And this was only a part of the argument. Please learn to take it from both side. Read what I've said and take it to heart.

and
https://www.gtplanet.net/yamauchi-interview-reveals-more-on-gt5-development/

on top of countless interviews in writing and video, and countless historical artifacts I've received from the Mayans.

 

[MoGoSpeed]

oh yeah it would be very nice to race online if i could actually get online , 9 times out of 10 i get error messages , or "you have been disconnected from the server" when trying to enter a room.
i also play shift 2 , dirt 3 , f1 2010 , and i have never had this problem with any of those

I can only say sorry I guess. Doesn't happen to me.

 

[robbo6]

Don't compare GT5 to anything that doesn't strive to be a SIM.

I compare GT5 to PC sims....and GT5 falls flat on it's face in SO many areas in that regard. Yet you are incapable of seeing that....but I'm sure you'll just trot off the usual excuse about PC graphics.

Kaz says he's a perfectionist, GT5 is about as far way from perfection that he has ever got with any other GT game.

 

[MoGoSpeed]

Really Robbo??

I've already said I'm aware of criticism, and stated my stance.... to start throwing out "fanboys"..... what the funk... have we succumb to little kid language . I've said what I said and it has nothing to do with "fanboism", but understanding.