Downloadable cars for GT5p

[V1P3R]

They already did with the GTHD concept...

Must have missed that one, oh well.

 

[McLaren]

Tell me where there is a thread asking what kind of cars that people want in GT5p? there isn't one other than this. As GT5 isn't out for a long time, then people creating a list of cars they would like in GT5p would possibly influence PD in making those chosen cars available for GT5p.

I didn't say there was. I said a wishlist for GT5 would become identical to the wishlists for GT5, so what's the point? None.

Afterall i'm sure PD read these forums to get an idea of what GT fans want. Do you want to be stuck with the same cars for another year or more?

And they can get an idea of what we want from the wishlists in the GT5 section, not an identical thread in a different section.

People started to post constructive answers to my original question, then the anti wishlist trolls come in and air their negativity. personaly, if I entered a thread that didn't really interest me, then I would go to another thread. I wouldn't post a snyde comment to the thread creator, but then some people just get a kick out of trying to put others down.

Boo hoo.

Don't start some fit just because folks are telling you the truth. I gave you fair warning at the beginning of this thread that it could be closed if you're asking for a list of cars people you want. You're the one spouting negativity by getting upset with folks.

 

[Viscerous]

Downloadable content for GT5P should not be payed for imo. For the full version I would happily pay for any additional content. I personally do not believe that they should charge more money for what is to this point still a demo.

It seems like most people replying to this thread think it is about GT5, but is about GT5P.

 

[thugbear2005]

They already did with the GTHD concept...

I would be disappointed with PD and Sony if we had to pay additional fees for downloading content.

My main problem with DLC fees is this: many people bought GT5, which was $40 USD. GT5 proper will be at least $60 USD. Also, quite a few gamers bought the DFGT driving wheel, which Polyphony gets a share of the profits from.

Many of the GT players here, myself included, will have spent more than $100 USD on GT5-related content alone once we buy the full game. I might just be thrifty or selfish, but asking fans to pay additional fees for a game that many have already spent $100+ on is unreasonable. Yes, I am aware that no one was forced to buy Prologue or the DFGT, but personally, I would feel cheated if I were forced to pay more money to fully enjoy the game.

Looking at sales numbers for past GT games, GT5 is almost certainly going to sell very, very well. Because of this, and barring huge cost overruns, I can't see Polyphony having much of a cashflow problem once the full game is released.

If GT5 is delayed so Polyphony can finish developing it, no problem. But if they rush it's release and then charge gamers for content they hadn't finished yet, I will be sorely disappointed in them.

Look, I'm as cheap as. . . well lets just say I'm really cheap. Even so, I understand that it takes a lot of time and effort to create new content, especially the quality of cars and tracks PD puts into the GT series. I don't expect them to work for free, they deserve to be paid. That being said, $2 for a car is ridiculous (EA I'm looking at you), but the fact remains if you want good, quality product, the laws of capitalism apply. I'm sure they arent planning on ripping us off but who here would be opposed to paying $5 for 10, 15, or even 20 new cars? I wouldn't.

 

[GT_Fanatic]

I didn't say there was. I said a wishlist for GT5 would become identical to the wishlists for GT5, so what's the point? None.

And they can get an idea of what we want from the wishlists in the GT5 section, not an identical thread in a different section.

Boo hoo.

Don't start some fit just because folks are telling you the truth. I gave you fair warning at the beginning of this thread that it could be closed if you're asking for a list of cars people you want. You're the one spouting negativity by getting upset with folks.

It's a real pitty that some GTP members are so up themselves, I was warned about them. Your in no position to warn anyone. I started this thread to be sociable, not to start a war of words. It's as clear and simple as this, if this thread doesn't interest you, then go elsewhere. Your the one who's having a fit by keep coming in and making sniping comments. If the thread is going to get closed, then no big deal. I react to people the same way they react to me. be a nice guy, you may like it.

 

[McLaren]

It's a real pitty that some GTP members are so up themselves, I was warned about them. Your in no position to warn anyone. I started this thread to be sociable, not to start a war of words. It's as clear and simple as this, if this thread doesn't interest you, then go elsewhere. Your the one who's having a fit by keep coming in and making sniping comments. If the thread is going to get closed, then no big deal. I react to people the same way they react to me. be a nice guy, you may like it.

And you're in no position to tell me when & where I can & can't post. I'm not having a fit. I simply could care less. All I said was that your thread could be closed if you asked for wish lists which is the truth.

But,perhaps if you don't like my comment, don't read it....

 

[91hondawagon]

Look, I'm as cheap as. . . well lets just say I'm really cheap. Even so, I understand that it takes a lot of time and effort to create new content, especially the quality of cars and tracks PD puts into the GT series. I don't expect them to work for free, they deserve to be paid. That being said, $2 for a car is ridiculous (EA I'm looking at you), but the fact remains if you want good, quality product, the laws of capitalism apply. I'm sure they arent planning on ripping us off but who here would be opposed to paying $5 for 10, 15, or even 20 new cars? I wouldn't.

That's just my opinion. If Polyphony released GT5 but charged money for only 10-20 new cars, I would be pretty peeved. I would much prefer that they take another month or two and finish those cars than rush the release.

It's a GT game, after all, and delays have happened and will happen again. I'm okay with that, but I don't want to pay extra cash just because Polyphony released the game before completely finishing it.

 

[thugbear2005]

That's just my opinion. If Polyphony released GT5 but charged money for only 10-20 new cars, I would be pretty peeved. I would much prefer that they take another month or two and finish those cars than rush the release.

It's a GT game, after all, and delays have happened and will happen again. I'm okay with that, but I don't want to pay extra cash just because Polyphony released the game before completely finishing it.

Well we're talking about GT5 in this thread, which came out a year ago. Releasing new cars for a game that is a year old and expecting them for free is just not logical.

 

[GT_Fanatic]

And you're in no position to tell me when & where I can & can't post. I'm not having a fit. I simply could care less. All I said was that your thread could be closed if you asked for wish lists which is the truth.

But,perhaps if you don't like my comment, don't read it....

What i'm trying to get accross to you is, your pouring petrol on a fire. sure you can go into whatever thread you like, but if it doesn't interest you then why go there? I created this thread in an attempt to encourage a friendly discussion, then guys come into the thread and start firing off "this will be closed soon" remarks, then it turns into a flame war. whats the point in doing that?

 

[91hondawagon]

Well we're talking about GT5 in this thread, which came out a year ago. Releasing new cars for a game that is a year old and expecting them for free is just not logical.

Why not? Owners of the Japanese version got a new track and new cars for free in March, when the spec II update was released, and that was only three months after GT5 was first released. It has now been about three months since Prologue was released in North America and Europe, so why shouldn't we expect another free update?

I'm not saying that the big fall update will definitely be free, but it would make sense if it was. That way, online events wouldn't be limited to the cars/tracks that were already on the disc, because invariably some people would not download the update if it were not free.

Maybe the trade-off for free updates is that we'll have to pay for a lot of new GTTV content, like Top Gear episodes. I'd rather have the option of choosing not to pay for peripheral content than not paying for content that is central to the game; forcing me to pay to enjoy the game to its fullest is a no-no in my opinion.

 

[NLxAROSA]

I think it would actually make sense if some DLC will come out for GT5P. In the recent interview with PD, it became clear that they're focusing on GT5P now, rather than GT5. IF GT5 is really being delayed until late 2009/early 2010 it makes sense that they put some effort in Prologue. If they don't people will go off to other games. I expect some new cars and tracks in an upcoming update. Some will be free and some will not be.

 

[El Drifto]

I would pay $1 for a car.
$2 for a Lamborghini.

 

[GT_Fanatic]

I would pay $1 for a car.
$2 for a Lamborghini.

$2 for a lambo, that would be a junk yard buy, you would have to spend 50,0000 credits to make it race worthy I would pay £20 to download a Koenigsegg (hope they are included in the game)

 

[thugbear2005]

Why not? Owners of the Japanese version got a new track and new cars for free in March, when the spec II update was released, and that was only three months after GT5 was first released. It has now been about three months since Prologue was released in North America and Europe, so why shouldn't we expect another free update?

I'm not saying that the big fall update will definitely be free, but it would make sense if it was. That way, online events wouldn't be limited to the cars/tracks that were already on the disc, because invariably some people would not download the update if it were not free.

Maybe the trade-off for free updates is that we'll have to pay for a lot of new GTTV content, like Top Gear episodes. I'd rather have the option of choosing not to pay for peripheral content than not paying for content that is central to the game; forcing me to pay to enjoy the game to its fullest is a no-no in my opinion.

In the fall update they are supposed to be adding damage, which would make sense to be made free. The spec II update was also the North American release, so the tracks and cars were technically sold to someone. If they were to add tracks and cars to the fall update, who is this being sold to? Someone has to pay for the extra work they did. It is a valid point that they are adding a PPV feature, and I hope as much as you do that the DLC was factored into the profits they make from GT-TV.

 

[klondike]

I never thought downloadebel content should cost money for GT5 P.

As i see it if they are slowly updating GT5 P, to a point where it will actually become the full game just by buying downloadebel content, then i have no problem paying for it. However if i have to pay first for a prologue game, then pay more to keep my game uptodate. and then also have to pay for a final version of the game well i think that is a bit to much.

Expecting me to buy more content for a program wich i see, as a kinda two sided agrement. We (The users get to play a game we all want to play long time before it is released ) PD. the developers get us to basicly beta test their program intensively before it is released, because that is kinda what we are doing atm.

What i would much rather see them doing, is consentrate their energy on the full game make it as good as they posibel can. Not spend to much time with all this useless tv update stuff or whatever.

 

[kikie]

Free of not. There are still GT-fans whom don't have an internet connection or/and a creditcard.

 

[GT_Fanatic]

In the fall update they are supposed to be adding damage, which would make sense to be made free. The spec II update was also the North American release, so the tracks and cars were technically sold to someone. If they were to add tracks and cars to the fall update, who is this being sold to? Someone has to pay for the extra work they did. It is a valid point that they are adding a PPV feature, and I hope as much as you do that the DLC was factored into the profits they make from GT-TV.

PD have to pay royalty costs for the new downloadable content for GT-TV. the content that is on GT-TV now was created and presented by Kazunori and involved minimal cost. I think that PD will will not only charge us for the GT-TV content, but also any future DLC for GT5p will be at a price also.

 

[AERO_HDT]

Looks like a lot of people here are either short on cash or tightarses, hehe!

I can't wait for downloadable content. I can't wait for an extra 10 cars, 20 cars, 50 cars. I want to own a piece of Gran Turismo that 5 year old kids can't own.

At the end of the day you choose what you spend your money on. If you want to argue about how much we're required to spend on the ULTIMATE Gran Turismo experience, let me break it down for you blokes.

50" Sony XD 1080p TV = $4000AU ($3000US)
1 Sony PlayStation3 console = $600AU ($400US)
1 Monster HDMI cable = $300AU ($200US)
1 DFGT Steering Wheel = $200AU ($150US)
1 Raceframe and Seat = $180AU ($135US)
1 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Game = $60AU ($40US)

Total Cost = Over $5300AU ($4000US)

"I'm too cheap to pay for DLC" = PRICELESS

 

[Ardius]

Looks like a lot of people here are either short on cash or tightarses, hehe!

I can't wait for downloadable content. I can't wait for an extra 10 cars, 20 cars, 50 cars. I want to own a piece of Gran Turismo that 5 year old kids can't own.

At the end of the day you choose what you spend your money on. If you want to argue about how much we're required to spend on the ULTIMATE Gran Turismo experience, let me break it down for you blokes.

50" Sony XD 1080p TV = $4000AU ($3000US)
1 Sony PlayStation3 console = $600AU ($400US)
1 Monster HDMI cable = $300AU ($200US)
1 DFGT Steering Wheel = $200AU ($150US)
1 Raceframe and Seat = $180AU ($135US)
1 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Game = $60AU ($40US)

Total Cost = Over $5300AU ($4000US)

"I'm too cheap to pay for DLC" = PRICELESS

Wait, wait wait....the point everyone is making is the fact they have paid all that money in the first place...and they shouldnt need to spend even more money just to enjoy the full game.
Since when has having to spend more money been a good thing? Why would you want to?

I dont see the logic in people that love DLC, especially because almost all of it is rediculously priced, you must not care about the money you're spending if you dont find £5+ (or whatever the equivelant amount in currency) a rip-off. That or you don't value the money you spend.

Lastly, not everyone has all that stuff...because we dont have the money or space. I myself dont even have a HDTV, let alone decent steering wheel or racing seat.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

If they do, there will be a public outcry about it. Customising your game in this way is not wanted and un-necessary. Yes, there are cars I dont like, but Id like to have them anyway, seeing as I paid for a full game in the first place (as in, buying GT5, not Prologue).
It also limits the events and means online events will be limited to cars that are on the disk, especially if the online games are client-hosted, as not everyone will buy the same cars or even buy any cars.

We will probably see more cars in free updates, but we will never have to pay for downloadable packs of them because of the issue of online play being seriously limited.

I sincerely hope you are right, I'd be really annoyed if I had to pay for car and/or track downloads. However, I have intentions of getting a credit card (once my internet security is up to scratch, and I mean a really high level scratch), just in case there's something I want that I do have to pay for.

 

[kikie]

Expensive or not, ridiculous or not. Nobody forces anybody to buy downloadable cars/tracks, etc... . If they're available you can still choose to buy them or not.

If it's not worth buying, don't buy it. Others whom like DLC will be able to download it. It's like damage in GT5p. Some want it, some don't. It's simple, if there is a on/off damage button, everybody will be content. It's the same with DLC.

 

[thugbear2005]

Looks like a lot of people here are either short on cash or tightarses, hehe!

I can't wait for downloadable content. I can't wait for an extra 10 cars, 20 cars, 50 cars. I want to own a piece of Gran Turismo that 5 year old kids can't own.

At the end of the day you choose what you spend your money on. If you want to argue about how much we're required to spend on the ULTIMATE Gran Turismo experience, let me break it down for you blokes.

50" Sony XD 1080p TV = $4000AU ($3000US)
1 Sony PlayStation3 console = $600AU ($400US)
1 Monster HDMI cable = $300AU ($200US)
1 DFGT Steering Wheel = $200AU ($150US)
1 Raceframe and Seat = $180AU ($135US)
1 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Game = $60AU ($40US)

Total Cost = Over $5300AU ($4000US)

"I'm too cheap to pay for DLC" = PRICELESS

Hahahaha! It's funny 'cause its true. I understand pad users not pay for DLC, but if you have a wheel, whether you admit it or not, you know you're gonna buy it, Although from you list I only have a ps3, a wheel(attached to an old desk), and GT5.

 

[P1]

If the DLC came out at the same time as the full game i can understand people not wanting to pay but if every month they came out will a DLC pack like forza and TDU with 5 cars and 1 or 2 tracks for a fiver i think thats well worth it.

 

[Ardius]

Expensive or not, ridiculous or not. Nobody forces anybody to buy downloadable cars/tracks, etc... . If they're available you can still choose to buy them or not.

If it's not worth buying, don't buy it. Others whom like DLC will be able to download it. It's like damage in GT5p. Some want it, some don't. It's simple, if there is a on/off damage button, everybody will be content. It's the same with DLC.

No, its not. You see, with GT, you tend to use all the cars and tracks, just like in shooting games, you tend to use all of the maps and guns. I'd only agree with you on DLC for music games, because music is very taste-orientated (as I have said before).

Its not a matter of if I want them or not, I want them all, they will all be worth buying because when is there ever a car that is not worth it in GT?

I highly doubt people will be content with say, 200 cars and then having 300 more that you have to pay extra for.

The only way I wouldnt mind is if they price it reasonably, like say, £3.50 for 30 cars and 5 tracks or something like that. Any more than £5 and I wont be able to buy it all, and hence why I will be very annoyed, because I can't enjoy the full game because Im not a rich bugger.

 

[thugbear2005]

No, its not. You see, with GT, you tend to use all the cars and tracks, just like in shooting games, you tend to use all of the maps and guns. I'd only agree with you on DLC for music games, because music is very taste-orientated (as I have said before).

Its not a matter of if I want them or not, I want them all, they will all be worth buying because when is there ever a car that is not worth it in GT?

I highly doubt people will be content with say, 200 cars and then having 300 more that you have to pay extra for.

The only way I wouldnt mind is if they price it reasonably, like say, £3.50 for 30 cars and 5 tracks or something like that. Any more than £5 and I wont be able to buy it all, and hence why I will be very annoyed, because I can't enjoy the full game because Im not a rich bugger.

The thing is, this game is almost a year old and they are still making content for it. I understand not wanting to pay for additions to a game you already paid for, but you you really expect them to work for free? It's not like they made this stuff a while ago and are just releasing it, this is stuff they made well after the game was launched. They could very easily have released the game and said, "well, on to the next project," but they didn't, and I personally think they should be compensated for the extra work they are doing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not rich by any means, but there are a lot of people working on this game, and they have families too.

 

[Ardius]

The thing is, this game is almost a year old and they are still making content for it. I understand not wanting to pay for additions to a game you already paid for, but you you really expect them to work for free? It's not like they made this stuff a while ago and are just releasing it, this is stuff they made well after the game was launched. They could very easily have released the game and said, "well, on to the next project," but they didn't, and I personally think they should be compensated for the extra work they are doing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not rich by any means, but there are a lot of people working on this game, and they have families too.

Actually, Id rather have all the content on disk, not free updates or paid updates.
I agree they should be paid (of course I do! I damn well would when i get the job!), but not at the rediculous prices that most DLC gets, especially if its highly successful (which it will be, more than likely).

 

[P1]

£3.50 for 30 cars and 5 tracks

That is never going to happen, its going to take quite a while to make 30 cars and 5 tracks it would be at least £10 for all that.

 

[thugbear2005]

Actually, Id rather have all the content on disk, not free updates or paid updates.
I agree they should be paid (of course I do! I damn well would when i get the job!), but not at the rediculous prices that most DLC gets, especially if its highly successful (which it will be, more than likely).

I completely agree that most DLC is vastly overpriced, and that needs to be fixed. I wonder how they come up with these prices anyway. Like do they actually sit down and figure out how many people own the original product, the percentage of people that would buy DLC at a given price, and plot this information on a graph to see where they can maximize profit. . .or do they just pull these numbers out of thin air?

That is never going to happen, its going to take quite a while to make 30 cars and 5 tracks it would be at least £10 for all that.

£10 (roughly $20 USD) breaks down to £2 ($4 USD) for a pack with 6 cars and 1 track. Given that I really only want 1 track for prologue before GT5 full comes out (guess which one it is ), I'm ok with buying 1 car & track pack.

 

[kikie]

As long as it's not as excessive as iRacing, then we are ok.

 

[blue night]

$200 dollars for a monster hdmi cable?? Lol that's not being carefree with your money, that's just being plain stupid, no offense.

Anyway, in terms of DLC I think that the ZR1 should be the first car able to be purchased.