Man, can't we go talk in the other 12 million threads/polls of this nature. Party for GT4, the way that we all think of drifting these days, exhibition wise, it is not pushing the car as hard as you can. Pushing yourself and your car as hard as you can comes with racing at the limit.
I also agree with toyo... there is no place for people who like it but don't sit down and praise it. Going fast is fun too...