drifting with analog controller

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Is it possible to drift correctly with an analog controller? If so...how? Ive tried so many times to drift and studied how other people drift...but they must be using a forceback wheel. whenever i try to get to a fishtail, it spins out right after even if i hold countersteer to the fullest. If anyone noes plz reply
 
practice young padawan.

lol. drifting is a matter of throttle control as well as steering. a lot of people use the analog stick. even Sheron uses the d-pad.

i'd like to get futher into discussion, but i'll let silviadrifter handle this one.
 
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To answer your question...

Yes, quite a lot of people use the Dual Shock to drift (including me)... Your best bet is to use both analog sticks:

Left Stick: Steering
Right Stick: Up = Throttle
Down = Brakes

This allows for the greatest degree of control, next to using a wheel... The analog sticks let you modulate the throttle, brakes, and steering very precisely... However, it takes a lot of practice to learn the limits of a vehicle... Drifting is controlled chaos... Only practice is going to help you get a feel for the inputs needed to initiate and control a fluid drift...

If you want help with drifting, come on over to the IDM Forums:

http://lsdrift.com/iboard/index.php?showtopic=307

I am puting together instructional excersises... They are completely open ended, so you can show your vid and have it critiqued any time... There will be a new excersize every few weeks, and everyone is welcome to join in...


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I used a DS2 before I got my wheel. I actually tried drifting with the controller and it's not as bad as it used to be. So keep praciting! It's very possible to become an excellent drifter with the DS2
 
i use the DS2 and i have tons of control over steering/gas/brake. you just need time to pratice with it.
 
yea, all u need is practice. remember precise throttle control helps a LOT, if u wannna just keep ur throttle at full blast just remember to ****ersteer
 
hmm. i stick with DS2.... i used DS2 before i got my wheels also..
but when i tried playing GT3 with wheels, i had a TOUGH time..
i couldn't even drive GRIP, drove me crazy

yeah.... so i sick with DS2...
 
Throttle control is probably the hardest thing to master when drifting. Too little throttle and the rear tires regain traction and your drift ends. Too much throttle and the back tires just slide right out and you spin.
 
At first it was hard for me drift with the analog stick, but after a few week you kinda get use to it.you just need a few setting just to hold your drifts with the analog stick.
 
RX-7_FC_DrIfteR
Practice practice practice. to me now the d pad feels all weird.
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I know what you mean,pretty soon in 2060 or whatever,they well replaces the steering wheel with a joystick:lol:,I just hope the never happen, :scared:
 
nissandrifter
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I know what you mean,pretty soon in 2060 or whatever,they well replaces the steering wheel with a joystick:lol:,I just hope the never happen, :scared:
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:lol: naa have you seen the new concept cars? they use like to joy stick things like a tanks. :lol: that will be sad day for racing.
 
I was wondering for those guys who used the DS2, did you have the analog sticks set up like Delphic Reason did? Where the left analog stick is steering and the right analog stick is acceleration and brake?

I am trying to learn too drift with the DS2 and my main problem is maintaining the drift. I full counter steer even sometimes and I just seem 2 spin out, I tried tapping the gas but that didnt work out very well, I even tried down shifting twice, and that still didnt work out very well. If I let off the gas and then try and re gas again I lose the dirft :(

Thanks you guys. XD
 
thecoolness
I was wondering for those guys who used the DS2, did you have the analog sticks set up like Delphic Reason did? Where the left analog stick is steering and the right analog stick is acceleration and brake?

I am trying to learn too drift with the DS2 and my main problem is maintaining the drift. I full counter steer even sometimes and I just seem 2 spin out, I tried tapping the gas but that didnt work out very well, I even tried down shifting twice, and that still didnt work out very well. If I let off the gas and then try and re gas again I lose the dirft :(

Thanks you guys. XD
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Try messing around with your gear ratio. For example the second gear goes to 70mph. 👍 ? 👎
 
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Try messing around with your gear ratio. For example the second gear goes to 70mph. 👍 ? 👎
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I think doing the "transmission trick" brings down the experiences of drifting. He probably has a problem with his suspension set up, and most likely the line he’s taking. If he has a rpm problem (drops to fast and can't get back up to the power band) he just upgrade his drivetrain.
 
I can drift fine without DR's setup but that's just me.
How i learned to maintain the FR drift was to have good counter-steering. I used the left analog for steering and i tried to keep it as smooth as possible and not "tap countsteer". I guess it all grinds down to practice.
 
i ono whats wrong! i think my problem is gassing! when i do 2 much, i sping out, when i take off gas completly i spin out, when i tap gas i still spin out!

how much do i counter steer? on the sharper corners do i do it max way?
 
it all depends on the speed and how the car is sideways. If there is big speed and big angle - you must do it max. I often find myself to do full lock (max) at first and then reduce it as much as needed.

But the main thing remains: practice, practice, practice ;).
 
thecoolness
i ono whats wrong! i think my problem is gassing! when i do 2 much, i sping out, when i take off gas completly i spin out, when i tap gas i still spin out!

how much do i counter steer? on the sharper corners do i do it max way?
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What are you driving? If you're driving an FR vehicle, you can take off the gas and just counter-steer and it shouldn't spin out...unless you're driving an AWD car...
 
Well, some FR's will spin if you drop of the gas if the reason you are drifting is from trail braking. An MR car you MUST give some gas, as the inertia is at the back. AWD is just get the pointed towards the exit and floor it.

I use the DS2, and I could never bring myself to use the analog stick for gas and brake. I use too much left foot braking and I just never got use to the stick. However, I have become smooth in the steering input, and have come to where I can vary how much gas the car is getting with the little pressure sensitivity the buttons have.

However, to keep from completely over whelming the rear wheels on FR cars, I will sometimes use the TCS on different levels, depending on if I am just playing around or racing (I switch between drift and grip racing in almost every race, depending on corners)

Drifting via power over has its issues... and is easier than dynamic entry and trail braking I think. Well, at least easier to start, kinda hard to keep your speed up with it though, and can lead to a spin out if not careful.
 
I am using the Silivia K's 2000cc, its FR right im fairly sure but I never checked.

Wow ur "AWD projectBLACK" vid is awesome forced induction! ur godly!!! :O :O :O :O
 
That is a good drift car. It is FR.
Try modifying the initial torque on the LSD, reducing it maybe. Also considering making the back end stick some more. Post your settings, lots of people are no doubt willing to help ya out here. I'm in no way saying I'm any good... but DR is, and he is a good guy as well, so yeah. But I'll try to help.
 
IMHO Gear ratios do not really matter when drifting unless you are in a really underpowered car. I.E Miata. Other than small little cars I leave gear ratios stock, but I do use the auto gear settings, but I don't go into each gear rising and lowring them one by one.
 

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