Drive Hub Racing Wheel Converter

Discussion in 'Sim Racing Hardware' started by VBR, Aug 16, 2017.

  1. AntinOz

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    And another video of it in use:



    I didn't have my wheel rotation set quite right so it's not quite 1:1 mapping, but you can see the responsiveness. It is only supporting PS4/XBox One at present, although there have been some questions around using it with PC as well.
     
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  2. jarmenti

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    The responsiveness is no different than plugging the wheel straight into the console! I can understand people being skeptical, but the drivehub is the real deal... no config files, or messy pc setup(other than if there's firmware updates for it). literally plug in and race... simple as that!
     
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  3. Dopplegagger

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    Thanks to jarmenti...
    SOLD! Ordering one tonight. I'll tell Fido to move over after its delivered. I know the Mrs. isn't going to like it.

    :lol:
     
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  4. jarmenti

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    For anyone's info I am in no way paid by collective minds to rant on forums. I was given the opportunity to be a beta tester on this product right after I had purchased the standard cronusmax plus as they were looking for fanatec users to be testers. I was simply blown away at the performance of the drive hub even in early firmware versions. By the end the beta forum was silent due to the fantastic work collective minds (cronusmax) does. The team are super nice people! I guarantee you guys won't be disappointed in your purchase as I was ecstatic with drive hub from day 1. I'm sure the feeling is mutual with all beta testers! It's literally the unit I've dreamed of since xb1 and ps4 launched when us fanatec users got the shaft.
     
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  5. AntinOz

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    What he said. Things weren't perfect during the beta but they were by the end of it! Even little extras like working out how to turn the right lights on on my Fanatec Porsche GT2 wheel. Some fun along the way with buttons mixed up, but the end result is great. I prefer this in PCars as opposed to the native Fanatec support, not sure why, it just "feels" better. And in Assetto Corsa it's brilliant.
     
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  6. ZSPaulus

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    When i go to the website that is mentioned for sales; it says pre-order. When will the product be available?
     
  7. MiniMoto

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    The website says: PRE-ORDER'S BEING ACCEPTED NOW - FIRST SHIPMENT DUE TO ARRIVE END OF AUGUST
     
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  8. Mad1723

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    Well, this sounds like something I need :)
     
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  9. DriveHUB

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    I will try to answer a few question :)

    There is huge scope for future expansion. More wheels and platforms will be added based on customer demand :)
     
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  10. Mad1723

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    Your module makes the Clubsport much more interesting for me who races on all platforms.
     
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  11. DriveHUB

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    The CronusMAX update was for the PS4 and some Logitrech and Fanatec wheels - it was basically a teaser to what was coming http://cronusmax.com/manual/logitech_g25_g27_fanatec_supported_racing_wheels.htm

    Drive Hub is a whole different ball game. The difference in hardware and features is night and day with huge room for expansion and no PC or software required.

    1. Current support is for Xbox One and PS4. We have no plans to support older consoles at this time.
    2. They won't. CronusMAX is over 5 years old and because of our authentication technology, it can't be stopped - nor do I see them wanting to. After all, the CronusMAX is used by every team at the Call of Duty Championships. If they had a problem - that wouldn't be possible.

    The CronusMAX supports Flight Sticks. The Drive Hub is for wheels and racing games.

    We solved issues with lag using new algorithms last year when we partnered up with the Call of Duty World Championships. There is no lag or latency :)

    The answer is in the original post. That the Xbox One and PS4 is supported. There's no mention of XBox 360 and PS3 because there's no support for those :) (Update: PS3 Support has now been added)

    As I responded in a previous post, our crossover products are over 5 years old and are the best selling in the world. Due to how we authenticate the controllers using original hardware, they have never and can never be "patched out"

    There's actually 0% of the CronusMAX hardware design in the Drive Hub. It's completely different technology. I wish it was as simple as just adding a USB hub. If I wanted to do that with a CronusMAX it would take approx 10 minutes to have the design ready as there's nothing to it. We worked for over a year on the Drive Hub. You'll all see why very soon :)

    Not with the new PS4 Wheel Edition Mode. It's a pure wheel emulation with fully accurate force feedback. Wheels are recognized in-game as a Logitech G29 on a PS4 with the CronusMAX. This was also just a sample of the new technology - Drive Hub is miles ahead of the CronusMAX.

    There is no lag so no need for concern. Microsoft can't patch it - much like the CronusMAX.

    There are options for accessories ;)

    I'll say again, it won't be blocked. Hopefully that message will get across now as I see it repeated quite a bit :)

    I own every SONY console since PSX i support the brand all the way by buying games, PS+ subscriptions etc, however since what SONY is doing in the subject of driving wheels - wheels not working on new platforms - is just a clear rabble I will only buy GT Sport and Project Cars 2 if the hub works, without lag and SONY is not able to do anything about it.

    There is no copyrighted code and there is no lag. Original controllers are used for security authentication and that is why our crossover converters have always been legal and unblockable.

    The firmware on the Drive Hub is easy to update.

    I'll repeat again - there is no lag :)

    Thank you for confirming :)

    I couldn't possibly answer this as the PS5 doesn't exist yet. If you can get me one i'd be happy to test and find out ;)

    Correct. The current CronusMAX PLUS hardware is 2 years old. We purchased the original company and redeveloped everything. Thank you for your input.
     
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  12. daan

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    @DriveHUB 12 posts in a row! Please don't do that.
     
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  13. DriveHUB

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    Apologies - I didn't think to consolidate all of my answers into one post.
     
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  14. isamu

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    Hi DriveHUB. Thanks for your reply. Looks like you guys have come a long way and have accomplished something special for console driving fans, so congratulations. I really have no dog in this fight. I have no allegiance to any of the hardware dongle manufactures. I've been using GIMX for the past year or so, and am very happy with it.

    With that having been said, I *DO* want to point out that GIMX still has a few benefits over the DriveHUB but if I'm wrong please don't hesitate to correct me:

    1)The new DriveHUB is simply an adapter "Hub" where you plug your "old" or "incompatible" wheel into one USB input connection, and then it emulates the other wheel. Unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't appear to allow you to use multiple USB devices and combine them into one "Fake" Logitech G29 wheel. I know I'm in the minority, but there are a few of us that do have several different USB devices that we use on PC, and with GIMX, it allows us to combine them all into one "virtual" Logitech G29 or G27. Are there any plans to implement this feature into the DriveHUB?

    2)Does the driveHUB allow you to remap any of the "Fake" or "Emulated" Logitech G29 wheel's buttons or axis? With GIMX, I can remap and assign any of the buttons/functions from ANY of my USB devices, and map them to ANY virtual button on the "Fake" Logitech wheel. So if for example there is a function assigned to a certain button in say, GT Sport that I'm not comfortable with, I can re-arrange that function and assign it to any other button on the emulated wheel. If I'm using a Fanatec wheel and I don't like where the game placed its Reverse button on my shifter, I can move it over to another "gear" on the shifter if I want to.

    3)Matlo is planning on releasing a version of GIMX that will allow us to adjust the force feedback *independent* from the game's own FFB effect. In other words we will be able to adjust the strength of several FFB effect parameters such as Centering strength, Constant effect strength and Dampening strength. I'm very excited about these features in particular.

    4)Last but not least, this is probably considered an insignificant benefit, but GIMX supports emulation of the G25/G27 on the PS3, unlike the DribeHUB. Yes the PS3 is an old console now, but I'm willing to bet a few of us still enjoy using it to play older racing games such as GT5, Daytona USA, etc. For me personally, I'll never stop enjoying racing games on my PS3. To be able to play Ridge Racer 7 with my Leo Bodnar wheel alone makes GIMX worth it :)

    So yes, while the DriveHUB is quite an accomplishment and offers great simplicity for console users looking for a basic plug and play solution, GIMX is a solution that personally works better for me, given it's extraordinary flexibility and customization options. There is certainly room enough for both adapters to co-exist :)
     
  15. GBO Possum

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    I want to use either my G27 or my G920 on a PS4 Pro

    I use Mac computers running Mac OS exclusively

    If I'm reading the documentation correctly, I'm going to have to get myself a PC running Windows 7 or later

    Is that correct?
     
  16. jarmenti

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    The windows pc is simply for updating the firmware of the device. The drivehub is a complete standalone solution, no pc required for operation, and should work fine with the firmware that is shipped on the device!
     
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  17. Podger

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    there is a MacOS app for updating all Collective Minds devices, including the DriveHub
     
  18. DriveHUB

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    The Drive Hub can and does do exactly that. You can take your favorite wheel, pedals, shifter and handbrake and merge them all into one virtual device :)

    Example Xbox One Setup:

    Console USB Port -> XBOX ONE using a micro USB cable
    Controller USB Port (Port #1) -> XB1 Controller
    Wheel/Controller USB Port (Port #2) -> T500RS
    Accessory USB Port (Port #3) -> TH8A etc

    If you have any other accessories, say a handbrake, you can use any standard usb hub in the Accessory Port and keep adding...

    Hopefully this answers that question :)

    [​IMG]

    A lot of the games tested already allow you to do the remapping internally, and it was not deemed a priority in the development phase to allow for custom remapping. No doubt end user feedback will influence future updates.

    Example of current remap of a Logitech G27 on the PS4:

    [​IMG]

    Podger (Drive Hub engineer) answers this in more detail here

    However, there are currently 3 special modes for Fanatec wheels which may interest you. Again, end user feedback will influence future updates.

    Fanalogic: Use your Favorite Fanatec wheel (including PC wheel bases) with your favorite racing game on the PlayStation 4 or Xbox One , no more having to buy a new wheel or base just play on your favorite platform.

    Adaptive Force: Enjoy the added benefit of our Adaptive Force technology enhancing your Fanatec wheel by adding the missing environmental effects while playing Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon Games (Fanalogic Mode only).

    Fanatec Native Mode: This allows Fanatec owners to fully utilize the native Fanatec features, buttons and displays if supported in your favorite Racing game.

    We have no plans to support older consoles at this time. As mentioned above, end user feedback will greatly influence future updates. It all really depends on demand. (Update: PS3 Support has now been added)

    I can assure you there's nothing basic about the Drive Hub - you will all be able to judge for yourselves on its performance in the next week or so :)

    Hope that helps!
     
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  19. VBR

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    1) Is it possible to have a Logitech wheel in the Wheel Controller port, & a Fanatec CSR Elite Pedal set in the Accessory port?

    2) If I use a stand alone USB cable converter for a Logitech gear shifter, can I use that in the Accessory port with a T300 wheel for instance?

    3) If using pedals via the Accessory port such as the CSR Elite's (or G25 with Leo Bodnar 1024 bit adapter), what resolution are they registered at; 512 or 1024 bits?
     
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  20. oqvist

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    Do this or gimax work with the osw? I have the older one using MMOS not Simucube.
     
  21. Podger

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    yes

    yes

    that would depend on the adapter... eg for the elite pedal, gas/clutch/handbrake are 12bit and the brake(load cell) is 16 bit...
    as for Bodnar, I'm not familiar with that adapter.
     
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  23. Podger

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    to correct my answer to question 2... I misread, the question, I thought you meant the USB cable for a the Thrustmaster shifter TH8A, that does work... This other adapter from Bodnar isn't supported.
     
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  24. ZSPaulus

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    This has me interested indeed: i will be buying one. Finally i would be able to use my fanatec gt2 wheel again.

    DriveHub: can you suggest any retailers for people living in the Netherlands? It will hopefully lessen the shipping costs..
     
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  25. Podger

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    http://drivehubnow.com/
     
  26. Dopplegagger

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    What about pedals or shifters connected to the wheel base? I think it should work without a problem, but just to be clear, will this cause any problems?
     
  27. ZSPaulus

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    Thanks for the link, but its also in USD and costs more than on the website mentioned in the first post. Even then: when i click calculate shipping and enter my postal code it says: 'There are no shipping methods available. Please double check your address, or contact us if you need any help'.

    Anyone from the Netherlands or maybe Belgium that can tell me where to get the DriveHub?
     
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  28. Dopplegagger

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    Order placed. I can't wait.

    And I washed some of the dog's blankets, in anticipation. :lol:


    And another question...
    Was anyone in your test group using standard Fanatec pedals with a Basherboard PF1, or a set of CSR pedals with the PF1 Barebones circuit board?

    This is what I am using with my Fanatec CSR pedals...
    http://www.basherboards.com/PF1_BB
    This replacement circuit board has been a Godsend!
     
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  29. AntinOz

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    Yes, my pedals are connected to my wheel, others with the more advanced fanatec setups had similar configurations including shifters.
     
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  30. oqvist

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    Anybody know if these are supported?