Elon's Antics

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Using AI to rewrite history? Every important person is about to have 12 fingers, three arms, and an uncanny smile.
 
This grok?

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The clip is from a short film unsurprisingly called, "One Minute Time Machine."
 
He's only been talking about it for the past six years. Easy to miss.
Actually since July 2016, if not earlier...

Master Plan, Part Deux​

Elon Musk, July 20, 2016

See link below, under "Sharing"...

...You will also be able to add your car to the Tesla shared fleet just by tapping a button on the Tesla phone app and have it generate income for you while you're at work or on vacation, significantly offsetting and at times potentially exceeding the monthly loan or lease cost. This dramatically lowers the true cost of ownership to the point where almost anyone could own a Tesla. Since most cars are only in use by their owner for 5% to 10% of the day, the fundamental economic utility of a true self-driving car is likely to be several times that of a car which is not.

In cities where demand exceeds the supply of customer-owned cars, Tesla will operate its own fleet, ensuring you can always hail a ride from us no matter where you are.



So here we are, nine years later, with Tesla sales stalled due to Musk's Antics ™, thousands of Teslas in unsold inventory, with Musk claiming that Tesla will have over a thousand driverless vehicles on the road “within a few months.” All they need to do is massively scale the control center, and hire thousands of "unsupervisors" to sit in the passenger seats.

Without the "unsupervisors", and the limitation of riders to vetted influencers, I can see Tesla's Robotaxis being summoned to their fiery deaths as recently happened to multiple Waymos.

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More reading...


ANOTHER EDIT:

Elon's autonomy claims, an incomplete list...

 
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Actually since July 2016, if not earlier...
That was just ride-sharing, with or without the owner of the car and leveraging the still vaporiffic FSD. What would become "Robotaxi" - a fully autonomous vehicle not necessarily owned by private customers - was first mooted in 2019:


Cybercab, which was basically the Robotaxi idea as an actual car, was unveiled in October 2024. And of course the Robotaxi is now not that, but geofenced "FSD" Model Xs with a human on board, in a single area of a city where Waymo already operates actually driverless cars (and over a broader area of that city too)...
 
That was just ride-sharing, with or without the owner of the car
In cities where demand exceeds the supply of customer-owned cars, Tesla will operate its own fleet, ensuring you can always hail a ride from us no matter where you are.
Surely Tesla operating its own fleet (which is what it is doing today, AND is calling it "Robotaxi") is not "ride-sharing".
 
Surely Tesla operating its own fleet (which is what it is doing today, AND is calling it "Robotaxi") is not "ride-sharing".
Sure when it's not an end-consumer's vehicle and they're not necessarily in it ("ride-sharing" is more "jumping into someone else's car 'cos they're going that way", like carpooling, but reinvented to mean "taxis but not actually licensed taxis") but that's still just private cars only with Tesla operating them when there's not enough actual customers owning them (and likely defleeting them for private sale as cars after the usual 3-5 years).

An actual vehicle purely intended to be an autonomous (never human driven) vehicle for hailing and bailing - a FSD, driverless taxi - and specifically the term "robotaxi", was first floated by Musk at an investor day in 2019. I guess because he realised that nobody wants to let someone else call their car over for them to use (even passengers suck) and decided to invent Waymo.

Funnily enough, most onlookers didn't think he meant a fully autonomous vehicle but the earlier ride-sharing thing as he said something dim about having a million Robotaxis on the road by 2020 (the following year) and nobody thought that he was actually talking about new cars but something to do with updating old cars for the task.
 
The link below should start at the 7 minute mark.

The car moves to the left turn lane, intending to turn left at the lights, gets into the intersection, seems to get confused, zigs and zags eventually aborting the left turn, drives on the wrong side of the double yellow lines for a while until it gets back in its place.

Fortunately, no cars were oncoming at the time.

I was amazed that nobody spoke. That took some serious discipline from the Tesla employee and the Tesla YouTube influencer.

A little earlier, the Tesla employee can be seen giving a thumbs up, (presumably for the interior camera). I didn't see a thumbs down when it was driving on the wrong side of the road 😂

 
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