Endurance Races

Ax Battler · Mar 17, 2005

I haven't had the game long enough to get to 25% but I've looked at the details of the endurance races.

There are three races that require 24 hours of playing? :nervous:

I know there's B-Spec to use and it encourages you to build up the drivers skill on that but really whats the point? I need to leave my PS2 on for more than three days on 'auto-pilot' to complete the game, thats not even remotely fun, who thought of that dumb idea?

The potential of problems of a power cut/surge also exist (we once had a washing machine catch fire when we were out)

It seems like a pointless chore. I didn't mind endurance in the previous games, going round the same track for three hours isn't my idea of fun but I did it anyway to get the rewards but longer than that on one track :yuck:

I just can't get my head around the logic of this idea, I think anything over 4 hours is excessive and stupid. It's not like you're going to enter the race unless you're 100% sure your car and B-Spec driver are up to the job so it's an annoying formality which achieves nothing other than wasting electricity and preventing you from actually racing and enjoying the game whilst its tied up in dull waste of time loop.

I bought a PS2 just for this game and I'm really enjoying it so far and want to get my money's worth by playing it all through but the thought of the stupidly long endurance races fills me with nothing but dread.

Can anyone genuinely see the point in this or say they gained anything in the way of enjoyment from these 24 hour races?

Also does anyone have a rough idea of how long the other endurance races take to complete?

Stargazer · Mar 17, 2005

Ax Battler
It seems like a pointless chore.

I use it to earn credits while I'm not playing (i.e. when I sleep or work

) also to do the races I don't like. That way I can still get the prize and continue on. I have no problem leaving my PS2 on.

smellysocks12 · Mar 17, 2005

You can fastforward it at 3x speed so it'll only have to be on for one day to win all 3 races.

Yoyocrappa · Mar 17, 2005

everybody makes it seem so simple by turning it up to X3 but it will change back to X1 once the car pits, so plan on waking up in the middle of the night to speed it up again if u want to finish quickly

JoKo · Mar 17, 2005

For pretty much every race with reartires at r1s ive seen the need to speed it back up to x3 every 10 minutes. Basically meaning the tires last for 30minutes driving time. Of course it depends on the course. Sometimes 30minutes will be 7 laps, sometimes 30 minutes will be 18laps. But its always just about 10minutes reallife time. So if you wanted to do 3 24hour enduros in 24hours, youd have to be on it all 24 hours. I did a 24hour yesterday, I just let the **** sit there and i went out with my girl for the day..... she was surprised and happy lol. "wow your leaving your house?"

vinsion · Mar 17, 2005

Yoyocrappa
everybody makes it seem so simple by turning it up to X3 but it will change back to X1 once the car pits, so plan on waking up in the middle of the night to speed it up again if u want to finish quickly

I did the Nuremburgring race and woke up like every 20 minutes just to turn the speed up again, I did this for a good 5 hours of half sleep :dopey:

.

And yes, it sucked, but hey, I have a Formula car now, w00t!

Sleeeeepy,

</Vin>

JoKo · Mar 17, 2005

vinsion
I did the Nuremburgring race and woke up like every 20 minutes just to turn the speed up again, I did this for a good 5 hours of half sleep .

And yes, it sucked, but hey, I have a Formula car now, w00t!

Sleeeeepy,

</Vin>

i did that too with an 8hour enduro. I dont really remember doing it but I did an 8h and 9hour enduros overnight one time.

M_Grip · Mar 17, 2005

Ax Battler
Can anyone genuinely see the point in this or say they gained anything in the way of enjoyment from these 24 hour races?

To answer this question : No, but I don't think it's all that bad. The 24 hour races are pointless (especially considering that they're mostly for reliability and cars in GT4 don't break down), but they do add another level of gameplay. There are many who try to do the entire race in A-spec. Some alone and some with their friends.

Ax Battler
Also does anyone have a rough idea of how long the other endurance races take to complete?

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Depends on the distance. 1000km ~ 621 miles. I've finished them in about 1-2 hours using B-spec x3 most of the time.

I can finish the 24 hour races in about 12 hours if i'm home to make it x3 and in about 18 hours if I'm away most of the time.

///M-Power · Mar 17, 2005

The longers endurance races are a welcomed option. Yes, unlike real endurance races, reliability is not an issue, and most people lack the time and patience to sit through an entire 24 hours in A-spec mode, but at least the option is still there if you want it.

Leaving a race in B-spec mode for eight hours at a time is not terrible exciting, of course, but you should be able to complete all three 24 hour races over the weekend. Start speeding up B-spec after pit stops Friday evening, leave it running overnight, and then finish speed up B-spec Saturday morning. Work on the next race and then the third, and you should be a few million richer and have some nice cars waiting for you in the garage by Monday morning.

Most of the other races are a lot shorter, so you can quickly do them in A-spec or even faster in B-spec. Besides, they are easy ways to get some good LMP cars like the Minolta Toyota or Nissan R92CP, and they can generate a good amount of money. For example, with the Fuji race, the money from selling the Nissan and the prize money adds up to nearly 1,500,000 credits. Leave it running overnight--it takes about 5 hours if not sped up--and you can generate cash without lifting a finger.

Ax Battler · Mar 17, 2005

Everything here just reaffirms what I think, it's a total pain and it's just not enjoyable in the least.

I have a full time job and I need my sleep I can't keep waking up to press a couple of buttons, that's not fun that's not a game that's worse than having to go to work - I rarely spend 24 continous hours at home anyway.

My PS2 needs to be tied up for the best part of 72 hours to do those three races, time that I could have been driving cars and actually getting a bit of enjoyment from the game.

I really hope PD rethink what the game is meant to be about and at the very least introduce a save feature.

edited:

Leaving a race in B-spec mode for eight hours at a time is not terrible exciting

As said above that can't be done, if it could it wouldn't be so bad but it keeps reverting back to 1x speed, I couldn't keep changing that often (ever 30 mins or whatever) even if I wanted to so it will take the full 24 hours x 3.

cap'n crunch032 · Mar 17, 2005

When I B-Spec'd the 24hr race at Nurdergerg [sp?] I started at 3:30PM when I got home and 3x it until 11:00PM that night and when I woke up I had four minutes left in the race. So your PS2 isn't on all that long.

d3p0 · Mar 17, 2005

I agree, it's pointless. The only real-life example of one person racing for that long is (rarely) the Baja 1000. I only clicked through the berg to get my F1 car and I'm avoiding Sarthe until I get to 99.8%.

bfifteenv · Mar 17, 2005

A company could make a killing right now if they came out with a "GTEnduro" controller that had a feature where it would automatically press R1 then hold L1 and press right three times at user defined intervals.

Like the old Nintendo and Sega controller that had "Slow Motion" that just pressed pause over and over really fast for you...

Ax Battler · Mar 17, 2005

d3p0
I only clicked through the berg to get my F1 car and I'm avoiding Sarthe until I get to 99.8%.

This is probably what I will do but I'd much rather race and win my F1 car than 'earn' it for simply wasting electricity.

It seems the makers can't grasp the concept of making it challenging, rather than making the races more competetive with better opponents they simply add more laps. I got bored of GT3 before completion because it became a chore I had to keep doing 10 laps, 15 laps, 10 laps, 20 laps of the same course again and again to complete the game.

What I don't understand is how could anyone possibly have thought it was a good idea, maybe they could have had one 24hr race for the hardcore fans with a huge pile of cash at the end of it but making several of them a necessity, for the love of God why it's just stupid and no one wants to do them. I know I'm rambling about it but seriously the mind boggles :scared:

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mestisnewfound · Mar 17, 2005

Its not that bad...
What i do is at 10:00 pm i set up the race occasionally an 8-hour or 9-hour race and 3X it till like 11:00 and go to bed. Wake up for school, go setup another race, and then go to school. I get home around 4 and then i just won 2 cars and lots of money, and a 24 hour race isnt that bad, ive got the Sarthe going right now and im on hour 21 but if you cant go 24 hours without playing its pretty sad... though i still cant do it :guilty:

and its also a great way to make money.

And I for one enjoy doing endurance races. Sit down and do an endurance race and if i need to do something pit and put it in b-spec and 3x it... its really not bad, and it also helped me become patient... which i was not before this game

rabbit23 · Mar 18, 2005

i use my tv's picture in picture feature. i make the gt4 window real small and move it off to the side. that way i can put it back in 3x but not have to sit and watch it.

VT · Mar 18, 2005

rabbit23
i use my tv's picture in picture feature. i make the gt4 window real small and move it off to the side. that way i can put it back in 3x but not have to sit and watch it.

Thats a damn smart idea. I'd have to try that if I had PiP

. Oh well.

[rant]Its not the nuremburgring dammit! Its Nurburgring, get it right. Nuremburg was a concentration camp, not a race track.[/rant]

I plan on doing all three of the 24hr enduro's with a group of friends. No bspec whatsoever. Its a good way to learn the track because all you're doing is ringing around it forever. By the end of it you're bound to be able to turn faster laps because you actually know the track. Plus you get a nice bit of cash and pretty good cars for completing them.

cap'n crunch032 · Mar 18, 2005

If your talking to me, I've never been able to spell Nurberburger [sp?] everytime I look at the word it seems it gets more letters. So I put the [sp?] after it which tells everybody that I have no idea how to spell the word.

VT · Mar 18, 2005

I was just talking in general. I've seen atleast 4 people specifically call it the Nuremburgring and it just makes my OCD go crazy.

awdrvr32 · Mar 18, 2005

I must be missing something here...
How are you guys running the 24hr and leaving the house?

Will the driver Pit automatically?

I know you have to manually speed back up to 3 x after every pit.

But will the driver make the Pit when he needs to?

TIA

GT Kid · Mar 18, 2005

There are only three 24 hour enduros in the whole game. 3 out of like 500 races.... even though its somewhat insane to expect someone to race for 24 hours, its only for 3 races.

VT · Mar 18, 2005

awdrvr32
I must be missing something here...
How are you guys running the 24hr and leaving the house?

Will the driver Pit automatically?

I know you have to manually speed back up to 3 x after every pit.

But will the driver make the Pit when he needs to?

TIA

Most of the time yes. However if you're low on fuel prepare to be coasting around the track at 50mph for a while.

slowman · Mar 18, 2005

Ax Battler
There are three races that require 24 hours of playing?

I know there's B-Spec to use and it encourages you to build up the drivers skill on that but really whats the point? I need to leave my PS2 on for more than three days on 'auto-pilot' to complete the game, thats not even remotely fun, who thought of that dumb idea?

Isn't that funny how they put something in the game that most people don't want to do, but then they provide a way that you don't have to do it?

Ax Battler · Mar 18, 2005

I wouldn't call it funny, I'd call it stupid or a waste of programming time. People have levelled the same complaints at GT for many years yet instead of addressing them we get stuff we don't want.

I think I'm just going to pick and chose what I do in the game, getting 100% really doesn't bother me I'll just do races that I enjoy

Oshow · Mar 18, 2005

If you have a Gameshark, you can use the tire wear code and the fuel usage code to run the 24hr. races in about 8hrs. I did this quite a few times to get different color variations of the F1 car. Now the F1 series, that's another story!!! Fifteen 2hr. races in the championship???!!! Boy, this really is getting real!!!!

Bomer · Mar 18, 2005

B-Spec... real men A-Spec the 24 hour races

Trusty drink hat

Bowl of food infront of you (well, lots of food)
Drink refills... and a very quick route to the toilet (Used when pitting!)

Ax Battler · Mar 18, 2005

Real men have jobs and women though! I wish I had the free time to do a 24 hour race but my spare time is limited so I prefer to do something I enjoy, not a chore!

Bomer · Mar 18, 2005

Ax Battler
Real men have jobs and women though! I wish I had the free time to do a 24 hour race but my spare time is limited so I prefer to do something I enjoy, not a chore!

It's not a chore... and phone a sickie in at work

rofl, much more satisfying to know YOU done the race than the computer doing it for you... as you could lose concentration after sleep deprivation and slower your lap times, and skid off, etc etc. Much more exciting

Ax Battler · Mar 18, 2005

Of course it's a chore, how can spending that long going round and round in a race you're going to win easily be anything else. I can think of lots of things I'd rather be doing, for the first time in months I can actually see the sun here in London, screw sittting in a darkened room for hours doing the same track.

Bomer · Mar 18, 2005

Ax Battler
Of course it's a chore, how can spending that long going round and round in a race you're going to win easily be anything else. I can think of lots of things I'd rather be doing, for the first time in months I can actually see the sun here in London, screw sittting in a darkened room for hours doing the same track.

Simple, don't use an insane car to easily win... try getting 100+ aspec points on it

The sun? what the hell is that?