Enzo Ferrari brakes.

[talhaONE]

Why this car has one of the worst brakes in game? Even the Ford F-150 Svt has better brakes than it.

 

[jagenigma]

How about the Veneno? It brakes like an old truck.

 

[Sharpie]

Brakes made of cheese and jelly?

 

[Skygrasper550]

Enzo's brakes are serviceable, unlike the R32 GT-R's which are just plain awful.

 

[Sander 001]

Why this car has one of the worst brakes in game? Even the Ford F-150 Svt has better brakes than it.

Yup and I think a large part of the problem is that it has zero front downforce whereas in real life it has huge front downforce.

Yamaguchi plz

 

[Epic B]

I wish we could upgrade the brakes. Some cars like the Veneno and this have terrible brakes. You'd expect much better for a car like this.

 

[Lebowski]

Most fast road cars in this game have crappy brakes, like soggy digestives. Are they really telling us that cars we know that have brakes powerful enough to rearrange your bowels actually cant brake at all and need the same distance as an aircraft carrier?! It's an insult to the manufacturers!

 

[Epic B]

Most fast road cars in this game have crappy brakes, like soggy digestives. Are they really telling us that cars we know that have brakes powerful enough to rearrange your bowels actually cant brake at all and need the same distance as an aircraft carrier?! It's an insult to the manufacturers!

I'd assume a car like an Enzo (or any other modern Ferrari) to stop like a race car.

 

[AlanH49]

I'd assume a car like an Enzo (or any other modern Ferrari) to stop like a race car.

Roadcar brakes, even on a supercar, are crap versus a race car. A race car also has full slick tyres which helps tremendously with stopping distances.

On a race track a BTCC touring would run rings around the latest hypercars with 1/3rd the power. All down to grip and braking power.

 

[Keith2324]

[QUOTE="Lebowski, soggy digestives.

Now that is something I can relate too.

 

[talhaONE]

Roadcar brakes, even on a supercar, are crap versus a race car. A race car also has full slick tyres which helps tremendously with stopping distances.

On a race track a BTCC touring would run rings around the latest hypercars with 1/3rd the power. All down to grip and braking power.

Im not saying super cars should have the same brakes with race cars. Wrong thing is a 2.5 tonnes truck has better brakes then a 1.2 kg super car. This makes no sense.

 

[daan]

Has anyone actually done a test, or is it just that (with the power the Enzo has) you're going faster than you think you are, and are therefore braking too late?

Why don't you take an Enzo to a track, get to 100mph, pick a spot to brake and note where you stop. Repeat with other road cars on same tyres.

 

[snowgt]

In my experience people are most of the time simply underestimating the higher speed with which they are approaching turns in these cars. Braking distance increases exponentially with speed.

 

[Greycap]

This was originally written in response to a post complaining how the LaFerrari goes straight through the first chicane at Monza when braking at the 200m mark. Those distances really are crazy.

In reality, 200 metres sounds like a very short distance. Braking distance is proportional to speed squared so if we assume that the car does 100 to 0 km/h in 30 metres (which is quite spot on, actually) it'll need 120 metres for 200 to 0 and (3x3 x 30) 270 metres for 300 to 0 km/h. Leaving the last 100 km/h out of the calculation, meaning that you'd turn into the corner at 100 km/h which you definitely won't do at Monza, would still mean a braking distance of 240 metres when braking from 300 km/h. Now, I haven't tried how much speed the car can gather on the front straight but I'd assume that it's more than 300 km/h - from 330 km/h, for example, the braking distance would already be nearly 300 metres and you'd still be doing 100 km/h at the apex.

Physics. Bloody physics.

 

[05XR8]

See? This is textbook 101 from Gran Turismo 1 to GTS. Start here:

Show & tell about the differences in braking distances in basic road cars and supercars. There's even a test players can perform to experience it. Go figure.

 

[talhaONE]

Has anyone actually done a test, or is it just that (with the power the Enzo has) you're going faster than you think you are, and are therefore braking too late?

Why don't you take an Enzo to a track, get to 100mph, pick a spot to brake and note where you stop. Repeat with other road cars on same tyres.

N600 race in open lobby.Im in good old Viper Gts and a guy were using Enzo Ferrari. Enzo always braked earlier then me.

 

[daan]

N600 race in open lobby.Im in good old Viper Gts and a guy were using Enzo Ferrari. Enzo always braked earlier then me.

I brake earlier than most people, which doesn't mean my car has rubbish brakes. Why don't you try what I suggested?

 

[MroczMR]

Try it on Racing tires. You will see that breaks are not crap but your tires.

 

[talhaONE]

I brake earlier than most people, which doesn't mean my car has rubbish brakes. Why don't you try what I suggested?

Because its unnecessary. Enzo clearly have bad brakes then most of the cars.

Try it on Racing tires. You will see that breaks are not crap but your tires.

Nope. With race tires it still has worse brakes then other n class cars with race tires.

 

[eran0004]

Im not saying super cars should have the same brakes with race cars. Wrong thing is a 2.5 tonnes truck has better brakes then a 1.2 kg super car. This makes no sense.

A 1250 kg supercar travelling at 300 km/h carries 1/8 more kinetic energy than a 2500 kg truck travelling at 200 km/h, giving it 1/8 longer braking distance (ignoring any differences in grip and aerodynamic drag).

We can let m represent the mass of the supercar and v represent 100 km/h, then:

1m*(3v)^2 = 9 units of kinetic energy for the supercar

2m*(2v)^2 = 8 units of kinetic energy for the truck

Conclusion: speed kills

 

[AlanH49]

Because its unnecessary. Enzo clearly have bad brakes then most of the cars.

Ferrari Enzo is a 15 year old car.

Brake and tyre tech has come a long way in that time.

 

[daan]

Because its unnecessary. Enzo clearly have bad brakes then most of the cars.

Fair enough. I bow to your superior knowledge.

 

[Sander 001]

People are still not understanding that downforce helps with brakes

 

[Riptide]

....... because PD. Why ? Ask PD.

 

[rex1825]

You shoild try Vulcan lol...

 

[GTWelsh]

Guys, remove the ABS, the brakes lock. So it's not the brakes is it.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Guys, remove the ABS, the brakes lock. So it's not the brakes is it.

So many people don't get this. It the grip of the tyres, modified by downforce that dictate how quickly you can stop.

 

[talhaONE]

People are still not understanding that downforce helps with brakes

So many people don't get this. It the grip of the tyres, modified by downforce that dictate how quickly you can stop.

Bugatti has same amount of downforce with enzo ferrari and it weights much more but somehow it stops faster.

 

[Sander 001]

Bugatti has same amount of downforce with enzo ferrari and it weights much more but somehow it stops faster.

Not somehow. Engine braking is much better because of the Bugatti’s powertrain system.

 

[Pedinhuh]

Guys, remove the ABS, the brakes lock. So it's not the brakes is it.

They don't lockup completely though.