(ETZ)Esattezza Autosport! Lancia Stratos "La Italiano" Model added
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Hey sukerkin, I've notified Nick about the change of ownership. I couldn't pick a better candidate for the job and besides, your the one whos kept this place alive while I've been gone so you deserve it more than anything. I really like what you've done with the place, and I sincerely thank you for it. Starting something that takes alot of time and not being able to keep it alive can be pretty depressing, but you've done more for this place than I could have asked for. Iam trully happy to turn ownership over to you and I would also like to aknowledge you as a good friend and business partner Sukerkin. Cheers!
Sincerely
Mark
Sincerely
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Soprano I hope everything is going great for you! Good luck with everthing and hope to see you back again:tup:
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Okay, I've finished my review...somewhat. Do you want me to elaborate on it ala-Jeremy Clarkson, or just give one without all the useless banter?
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Aston Martin Vanquish '04
610HP Race Prepared Version
The challenge with this car was a bit different from the normal ETZ approach of trying to maximise A-Spec points. The client wanted us to make the car competative without going overboard but wasn't concerned with A-Spec. Of course, this being ETZ we didn't want to simply bolt on all the Max Power bits with R5 tyres and declare victory, so we kept things within reason and decided to match the performance to what is actually available in the real world ... tho' we did commit artistic treason by fixing a Wing to one of the most beautiful cars ever crafted
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So in essence what we were after was a 200mph car that could do 0-60mph in about 4 seconds. Plus we needed to ameliorate the dramatic front tyre wear that PD had modelled for the Vanquish (previous testing a few years ago had revealed a two grades wear difference). The hardware we used was as follows:
Racing Exhaust & Racing Chip
Stage 2 NA Tune (with a change of oil to a short life but high performance formula)
Racing Tyres (R2 Grade)
Racing Brakes and Balance Controller
Racing Suspension with Rollcage addition (Stiffness upgrade) & Stage 3 Weight Reduction
Fully Custom Gearbox
Triple Plate Clutch, Racing Flywheel & Carbon Propellor Shaft
Aerodynamic Enhancements
Fully Custom Limited Slip Differential
Because of the relaxed A-Spec goals and the fact that our engineers had previously worked with Aston's extensively in their own driving careers, this was not as long a process as usual for an ETZ build and the main challenge proved to be dialing down the front tyre wear without inducing an unacceptable amount of understeer.
The primary track used for testing was the Nurburgring as usual but we also used the boringly oval Test Track for top speed trials (201mph)whilst setting up the gearbox and the neon-lit streets of Las Vegas for acceleration data gathering (0-400m in 11.4s). Confirmation testing also took place at Tokyo R246, Trial Mountain, Deep Forest and Grand Valley. Sometimes this was in solo runs, sometimes against lower-tier supercars and othertimes versus JGTC vehicles.
The set-up suite we spannered onto her was as follows:
Brakes: 1/5 (part of the front tyre preservation strategy)
Springs: 11.6/9.1
Ride: 103/98
Damper Bound: 4/4
Damper Rebound: 9/7
Camber: 2.1/1.4
Toe: 0/0
Stabaliser: 4/5
Gearbox: AutoSet 13 @ 3.770 Final (adjust individual gears)
1st: 3.110
2nd: 2.110
3rd: 1.540
4th: 1.195
5th: 0.960
6th: 0.800
ASM/TCS: 0/0/3 (only required for grid starts)
Downforce: 28/30
LSD: 8/40/16
Ballast: 1KG @ -10
There is a small tendency to understeer built in to the car to allow for those occasions when the driver turns off the TCS and lights up the rears for the sheer fun of it
This gives her excellent high speed stability, such that we could take Flugplatz flat out and dive into the Tiergarten Hohenrain Schikane at full power.
Passing the second element of Tiergarten at 190-ish mph ... time to dab the brakes then back on the throttle
610HP Race Prepared Version
The challenge with this car was a bit different from the normal ETZ approach of trying to maximise A-Spec points. The client wanted us to make the car competative without going overboard but wasn't concerned with A-Spec. Of course, this being ETZ we didn't want to simply bolt on all the Max Power bits with R5 tyres and declare victory, so we kept things within reason and decided to match the performance to what is actually available in the real world ... tho' we did commit artistic treason by fixing a Wing to one of the most beautiful cars ever crafted
.So in essence what we were after was a 200mph car that could do 0-60mph in about 4 seconds. Plus we needed to ameliorate the dramatic front tyre wear that PD had modelled for the Vanquish (previous testing a few years ago had revealed a two grades wear difference). The hardware we used was as follows:
Racing Exhaust & Racing Chip
Stage 2 NA Tune (with a change of oil to a short life but high performance formula)
Racing Tyres (R2 Grade)
Racing Brakes and Balance Controller
Racing Suspension with Rollcage addition (Stiffness upgrade) & Stage 3 Weight Reduction
Fully Custom Gearbox
Triple Plate Clutch, Racing Flywheel & Carbon Propellor Shaft
Aerodynamic Enhancements
Fully Custom Limited Slip Differential
Because of the relaxed A-Spec goals and the fact that our engineers had previously worked with Aston's extensively in their own driving careers, this was not as long a process as usual for an ETZ build and the main challenge proved to be dialing down the front tyre wear without inducing an unacceptable amount of understeer.
The primary track used for testing was the Nurburgring as usual but we also used the boringly oval Test Track for top speed trials (201mph)whilst setting up the gearbox and the neon-lit streets of Las Vegas for acceleration data gathering (0-400m in 11.4s). Confirmation testing also took place at Tokyo R246, Trial Mountain, Deep Forest and Grand Valley. Sometimes this was in solo runs, sometimes against lower-tier supercars and othertimes versus JGTC vehicles.
The set-up suite we spannered onto her was as follows:
Brakes: 1/5 (part of the front tyre preservation strategy)
Springs: 11.6/9.1
Ride: 103/98
Damper Bound: 4/4
Damper Rebound: 9/7
Camber: 2.1/1.4
Toe: 0/0
Stabaliser: 4/5
Gearbox: AutoSet 13 @ 3.770 Final (adjust individual gears)
1st: 3.110
2nd: 2.110
3rd: 1.540
4th: 1.195
5th: 0.960
6th: 0.800
ASM/TCS: 0/0/3 (only required for grid starts)
Downforce: 28/30
LSD: 8/40/16
Ballast: 1KG @ -10
There is a small tendency to understeer built in to the car to allow for those occasions when the driver turns off the TCS and lights up the rears for the sheer fun of it
This gives her excellent high speed stability, such that we could take Flugplatz flat out and dive into the Tiergarten Hohenrain Schikane at full power.
Passing the second element of Tiergarten at 190-ish mph ... time to dab the brakes then back on the throttle
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Hey Soprano, I couldn't help but notice you have a PSN username. Do you have GT5?
Sorry Paulie I no longer have my 60gig, picking up another in not to long. Hopefully an 80gig.
Thank you all and good to hear from you guys again! Its good to see that not much has changed even though I've been out for a while.
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Acceleration-wise, the TVR was frighteningly quick. The whole car was tingling and vibrating, it felt like the engine was trying to escape. In fact, I swear it was melting the road!
Speed-wise, the car felt swell. There seemed to be an adequate amount of time when the engine was at maximum revs down the straights.
Suspension was incredibly good. It reacted well to the bumps and curbs. The subtle changes in suspension meant sensational results. The amount of bumps the car experienced was markedly lower. I also would have previously objected to putting ballast, but I was fine being proved wrong. The ballast provided a very stable platform for the car when going into corners.
If there was something I had to complain, it is that you didn't fit a supercharger into the set-up, but the car goes quicker than my set-up of the car with it, so I'm okay with it whether you wish to act on it or not (to fit a supercharger into your set-up).
All in all, an excellent set-up from an excellent tuner. Good job, sir!
Speed-wise, the car felt swell. There seemed to be an adequate amount of time when the engine was at maximum revs down the straights.
Suspension was incredibly good. It reacted well to the bumps and curbs. The subtle changes in suspension meant sensational results. The amount of bumps the car experienced was markedly lower. I also would have previously objected to putting ballast, but I was fine being proved wrong. The ballast provided a very stable platform for the car when going into corners.
If there was something I had to complain, it is that you didn't fit a supercharger into the set-up, but the car goes quicker than my set-up of the car with it, so I'm okay with it whether you wish to act on it or not (to fit a supercharger into your set-up).
All in all, an excellent set-up from an excellent tuner. Good job, sir!
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Many thanks indeed for those insightful words, IH. I'm glad you liked her.
At some point I may very well try to do a 1000HP build of the Twelve, just to see if I can; but recent experiences with the Stingray have rather put me off Superchargers (tho' I have used them in the past without witnessing such vile effects as that one caused).
At some point I may very well try to do a 1000HP build of the Twelve, just to see if I can; but recent experiences with the Stingray have rather put me off Superchargers (tho' I have used them in the past without witnessing such vile effects as that one caused).
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Of course, this being a TVR was like....having a lion for a pet. It was cool, exciting and fun...until it mauled you and disengaged limbs from you, which it will! It may be a car that would be awesome to race in, but I wouldn't want to use the Cerbera Speed 12 to drive to and from college.
I look forward to trying out the Aston. Elegant car that reeks of style and class. If only Polyphony Digital allowed the spoiler to be available in British Racing Green colours instead of the usual Black, White or Grey (?), then we could make it look like the DBR9.
I look forward to trying out the Aston. Elegant car that reeks of style and class. If only Polyphony Digital allowed the spoiler to be available in British Racing Green colours instead of the usual Black, White or Grey (?), then we could make it look like the DBR9.
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Yeeesss.. Finally, I'll test this car as I find time, sukerkin 👍
Yeah, that's right.. You know what even more drives me crazy? - There's no rear wing available for the RUF RGT
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Best wishes,
S-Line Audi Fan
EDIT: I forgot to mention that there's a little mistake, sukerkin: There stands "Asto Martin Vanquish '04"..
Yeah, that's right.. You know what even more drives me crazy? - There's no rear wing available for the RUF RGT
..Best wishes,
S-Line Audi Fan
EDIT: I forgot to mention that there's a little mistake, sukerkin: There stands "Asto Martin Vanquish '04"..
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Hey Soprano, hope to see you back here soon mate. My life has just ruined my GT4 time as well: on the good side of the ledger will be having my first child and buying my first house, on the bad side finishing writing a PhD and you don't wanna know the rest. Although I signed up around the time you were slowing your input I was lurking for a good 6-9 months beforehand, and remember keenly following your comments and tunes, despite knowing virtually nothing back then about tuning in GT4. So, sir, I thank you and wish a speedy return and safe travels, but won't mention St Christopher cause I'm an atheist. Thanks mate.
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Review of the Aston Martin Vanquish '04
610 hp, 698 nm, 1524 kg
Well, these are the specs of this car.. It's very good on the paper, but how is it at the track? 💡 Let's find out
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First of all, thank you for adding so much power to the car.. 610 hp feel good in combination with a 1524 kg car.. 698 nm will help us to come out of corners fast
I tested this car on Nürburgring.. And let me one thing say: The car is excellent.. The acceleration is phenomenal, there's no wheelspin when accelerating.. There's no wheelspin even from a standing start 👍 The brakes are very good, too: You can brake very late and if you brake to late, a little tap on the brakes is enough and you can steer in the direction you want to go
.. The balance of this car is good, too.. And because of that the car is very stable under hard braking.. Tyre wear is no problem with this car: It's on R2 tyres and they'll last very long 👍 The car tops out at about 325 km/h, which is enough for this car, in my opinion at least .. The last thing I want to say about this car is that even not so skilled drivers would have no problems driving this car 👍
Total laps on Nürburgring: 16 Laps
Best lap time on Nürburgring: 6'32.658
Total kilometers: 348.6 km
Positive aspects:
- Acceleration
- Brakes
- Balance
- Stability
- Tyre wear
- Even unskilled drivers car drive this car fast
Negative aspects:
- None!
10/10
Well done, sukerkin If you've questions or if you have something to complain about, just let me know
Best wishes,
S-Line Audi Fan
610 hp, 698 nm, 1524 kg
Well, these are the specs of this car.. It's very good on the paper, but how is it at the track? 💡 Let's find out
..First of all, thank you for adding so much power to the car.. 610 hp feel good in combination with a 1524 kg car.. 698 nm will help us to come out of corners fast
I tested this car on Nürburgring.. And let me one thing say: The car is excellent.. The acceleration is phenomenal, there's no wheelspin when accelerating.. There's no wheelspin even from a standing start 👍 The brakes are very good, too: You can brake very late and if you brake to late, a little tap on the brakes is enough and you can steer in the direction you want to go
.. The balance of this car is good, too.. And because of that the car is very stable under hard braking.. Tyre wear is no problem with this car: It's on R2 tyres and they'll last very long 👍 The car tops out at about 325 km/h, which is enough for this car, in my opinion at least .. The last thing I want to say about this car is that even not so skilled drivers would have no problems driving this car 👍Total laps on Nürburgring: 16 Laps
Best lap time on Nürburgring: 6'32.658
Total kilometers: 348.6 km
Positive aspects:
- Acceleration
- Brakes
- Balance
- Stability
- Tyre wear
- Even unskilled drivers car drive this car fast
Negative aspects:
- None!
10/10
Well done, sukerkin
If you've questions or if you have something to complain about, just let me know Best wishes,
S-Line Audi Fan
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Thank you very much indeed for such glowing words, S-Line 👍.
As you say, she's a lovely car to drive fast, epecially at the 'Ring, without having to have a white-knuckle grip on the wheel - a great stress reliever.
You're right about that.. What I haven't mentioned is that you can drive really fast through the corners with this one 
👍 Umm.. Am I allowed to ask for a request? 💡 Or is this review not enough? EDIT: You wrote "epecially" -> "especially" would be right
EDIT 2: I've just noticed another mistake while going through the first post on the front page.. You wrote "Soprana's".. It would be great if you could change this, it's further down..
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Cheers for the proof-read, S-Line.
Also, please do feel free to request something.
We've never really gone out of our way to make it clear that people can 'commission' a project with us, it is true; perhaps I should add a note to that effect to the front-of-house?
One word of caution is that real life woes are running at a record high at present so it could take quite a while between request and delivery - after all, I have taken up to six weeks working on a car for ETZ before now and that was when life was running smoothly
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Also, please do feel free to request something.
We've never really gone out of our way to make it clear that people can 'commission' a project with us, it is true; perhaps I should add a note to that effect to the front-of-house?
One word of caution is that real life woes are running at a record high at present so it could take quite a while between request and delivery - after all, I have taken up to six weeks working on a car for ETZ before now and that was when life was running smoothly
.
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Here is one of the current projects ongoing at ETZ:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Top-Gear-Audi-RS6-Avant_169783.htm
http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetevovideos/226875/audi_r8_v_audi_rs6.html
As usual, because it's not a Japanese car, PD have waved the 'degrade performance' brush over it but by upping the HP to 754 we have gotten over 200mph out of her at the Nurburgring. Again, the Nippon Bias wrecked the handling, which meant that to overcome that defecit our engneers have had to wield spanners like heros to make her driveable at anything like race pace.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Top-Gear-Audi-RS6-Avant_169783.htm
http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetevovideos/226875/audi_r8_v_audi_rs6.html
As usual, because it's not a Japanese car, PD have waved the 'degrade performance' brush over it but by upping the HP to 754 we have gotten over 200mph out of her at the Nurburgring. Again, the Nippon Bias wrecked the handling, which meant that to overcome that defecit our engneers have had to wield spanners like heros to make her driveable at anything like race pace.
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A second project involves this ear-splitting wonder from BMW:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgy9vc4rf90
http://www.truveo.com/BMW-M3-GTR-Nurburgring/id/2194089341
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgy9vc4rf90
http://www.truveo.com/BMW-M3-GTR-Nurburgring/id/2194089341
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Audi RS 6 Avant
754HP 'Nurburgring' Version
The Audi RS 6 Avant is a very remarkable car in it's class. It's a 4WD Estate (or Station Wagon as our Trans-Atlantic cousins call them) with blistering performance and handling.
Our client wanted a build to attack the Nurburgring with maximum horse-power, maximum Weight Reduction and racing grade tyres but no Wing.
The car we started with was obviously a factory reject as it's handling was atrocious and it could not get the power down to the road. It was as if the rear had none of the weight and yet, paradoxically, all of the grip. Still we persisted and the parts list reads as follows:
Racing Exhaust & Chip
Port Polish & Engine Balancing
Racing Tyres (R1 grade at the front, R2 grade at the rear)
Stage 4 Turbine Kit with Large Racing Intercooler
Racing Brakes & Balance Controller
Racing Suspension (with Weight Reduction 3 (un-ballasted weight 1560kg))
Fully Custom Gearbox
Triple Plate Clutch & Racing Flywheel & Carbon Prop Shaft
Fully Custom Limited Slip Differential
Variable Centre Differential Controller
This heavy car handles the curbs at the 'Ring with aplomb
What we aimed for was to get two laps at least out of a set of tyres and to finish those two laps in 14 minutes or less, with a top speed of 200mph. We achieved our target but without aerodynamic changes the car understeers dreadfully exiting corners at high speeds.
However, we have balanced her such that either a momentary lift, gentle brake application or downshift will drop the nose back on line. For sharper corners, a little patience before hitting the loud pedal, allowing the apex to open, will yield very fast acceleration out of the corner.
Front tyre wear was huge, so we had to take the unusual step for us of utilising a different grade at each end of the car.
The suite we eventually settled on is as follows:
Brakes: 6/5
Springs: 12.2/10.9
Ride Height: 117/127
Damper Bound: 3/3
Damper Rebound: 4/6
Camber: 2.7/0.9
Toe: +1/+0
Stabaliser: 2/2
Gearbox: AutoSet 25 @ Final 5.500 then adjust individual gears
1st: 1.580
2nd: 1.010
3rd: 0.735
4th: 0.560
5th: 0.460
6th: 0.390
ASM/TCS: 0/0/0
LSD Front: 10/30/15
LSD Rear: 15/20/15
VCD: 30
Ballast: 25kg @ -15
A dab on the brakes at the corner before the final chicane drops the speed to 200mph and keeps the car on the black stuff
754HP 'Nurburgring' Version
The Audi RS 6 Avant is a very remarkable car in it's class. It's a 4WD Estate (or Station Wagon as our Trans-Atlantic cousins call them) with blistering performance and handling.
Our client wanted a build to attack the Nurburgring with maximum horse-power, maximum Weight Reduction and racing grade tyres but no Wing.
The car we started with was obviously a factory reject as it's handling was atrocious and it could not get the power down to the road. It was as if the rear had none of the weight and yet, paradoxically, all of the grip. Still we persisted and the parts list reads as follows:
Racing Exhaust & Chip
Port Polish & Engine Balancing
Racing Tyres (R1 grade at the front, R2 grade at the rear)
Stage 4 Turbine Kit with Large Racing Intercooler
Racing Brakes & Balance Controller
Racing Suspension (with Weight Reduction 3 (un-ballasted weight 1560kg))
Fully Custom Gearbox
Triple Plate Clutch & Racing Flywheel & Carbon Prop Shaft
Fully Custom Limited Slip Differential
Variable Centre Differential Controller
This heavy car handles the curbs at the 'Ring with aplomb
What we aimed for was to get two laps at least out of a set of tyres and to finish those two laps in 14 minutes or less, with a top speed of 200mph. We achieved our target but without aerodynamic changes the car understeers dreadfully exiting corners at high speeds.
However, we have balanced her such that either a momentary lift, gentle brake application or downshift will drop the nose back on line. For sharper corners, a little patience before hitting the loud pedal, allowing the apex to open, will yield very fast acceleration out of the corner.
Front tyre wear was huge, so we had to take the unusual step for us of utilising a different grade at each end of the car.
The suite we eventually settled on is as follows:
Brakes: 6/5
Springs: 12.2/10.9
Ride Height: 117/127
Damper Bound: 3/3
Damper Rebound: 4/6
Camber: 2.7/0.9
Toe: +1/+0
Stabaliser: 2/2
Gearbox: AutoSet 25 @ Final 5.500 then adjust individual gears
1st: 1.580
2nd: 1.010
3rd: 0.735
4th: 0.560
5th: 0.460
6th: 0.390
ASM/TCS: 0/0/0
LSD Front: 10/30/15
LSD Rear: 15/20/15
VCD: 30
Ballast: 25kg @ -15
A dab on the brakes at the corner before the final chicane drops the speed to 200mph and keeps the car on the black stuff
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Yay sukerkin! I give you a hug for this car.. I'll test it right now and I'll give you a review 👍 Thank you very much and it didn't take so long tuning the car as we thought it would, er?
EDIT: Why no oil change? I just did one and..
But it has got more horsepower now.. hm.. Damn, I have problems adjusting the gear ratios now.. 
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EDIT: I can change Autoset to 25 and final gear to 5.500, but I'm not able to set the individual gear ratios as showed.. The minimum for the first gear is 2.714
I give you a hug for this car.. I'll test it right now and I'll give you a review 👍 Thank you very much and it didn't take so long tuning the car as we thought it would, er? EDIT: Why no oil change? I just did one and..
But it has got more horsepower now.. hm.. Damn, I have problems adjusting the gear ratios now.. ..EDIT: I can change Autoset to 25 and final gear to 5.500, but I'm not able to set the individual gear ratios as showed.. The minimum for the first gear is 2.714
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Aye, changing the oil will throw off the range you can adjust the gears to (please ignore the PM I just sent asking if you'd fitted the Custom Gearbox ).
How you can get the ranges available again is to take off some power mods to get as close to the specified HP as you can. Adjust the gearbox and then put the power mods back on - don't edit the AutoSet after that or it will readjust to the higher HP value again.
When I put a build together, people are of course perfectly entitled to change it as they see fit but it has to be borne in mind that I engineer the cars to a specific HP, Weight and Tyre mix. The major challenge with this RS set-up was that she has just too much power as it is; adding even more may well not do her any favours.
). How you can get the ranges available again is to take off some power mods to get as close to the specified HP as you can. Adjust the gearbox and then put the power mods back on - don't edit the AutoSet after that or it will readjust to the higher HP value again.
When I put a build together, people are of course perfectly entitled to change it as they see fit but it has to be borne in mind that I engineer the cars to a specific HP, Weight and Tyre mix. The major challenge with this RS set-up was that she has just too much power as it is; adding even more may well not do her any favours.
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