Euro 2008 non-qualification thread...

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  1. Famine

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    Meh, I'm bored. Top 2 teams in each group qualify for the finals, along with Austria and Switzerland as hosts.

    Teams coloured RED cannot qualify. Teams coloured GREEN have already qualified.

    Group A

    1 Poland W8 D4 L2 - 28pt - +12
    2 Portugal W7 D6 L1 - 27pt - +14

    3 Serbia W6 D6 L2 - 24pt - +11
    4 Finland W6 D6 L2 - 24pt - +6
    5 Belgium W5 D3 L6 - 15pt - -2
    6 Kazakhstan W2 D4 L8 - 10pt - -10
    7 Armenia W2 D3 L7 - 9pt - -9
    8 Azerbaijan W1 D2 L9 - 5pt - -22


    *Poland, Portugal qualify
    **Armenia, Azerbaijan will play only 12 matches, with no matches between the countries and no points awarded
    *** Serbia, Finland separated on head-to-heads

    Results
    2/9/06 Belgium 0–0 Kazakhstan
    2/9/06 Serbia 1–0 Azerbaijan
    2/9/06 Poland 1–3 Finland
    6/9/06 Azerbaijan 1-1 Kazakhstan
    6/9/06 Armenia 0-1 Belgium
    6/9/06 Finland 1-1 Portugal
    6/9/06 Poland 1-1 Serbia
    7/10/06 Kazakhstan 0-1 Poland
    7/10/06 Armenia 0-0 Finland
    7/10/06 Serbia 1-0 Belgium
    7/10/06 Portugal 3-0 Azerbaijan
    11/10/06 Kazakhstan 0-2 Finland
    11/10/06 Serbia 3-0 Armenia
    11/10/06 Belgium 3-0 Azerbaijan
    15/11/06 Finland 1-0 Armenia
    15/11/06 Belgium 0-1 Poland
    15/11/06 Portugal 3-0 Kazakhstan
    24/3/07 Kazakhstan 2-1 Serbia
    24/3/07 Poland 5-0 Azerbaijan
    24/3/07 Portugal 4-0 Belgium
    28/3/07 Azerbaijan 1-0 Finland
    28/3/07 Poland 1-0 Armenia
    28/3/07 Serbia 1-1 Portugal
    2/6/07 Kazakhstan 1-2 Armenia
    2/6/07 Azerbaijan 1-3 Poland
    2/6/07 Finland 0-2 Serbia
    2/6/07 Belgium 1-2 Portugal
    6/6/07 Kazakhstan 1-1 Azerbaijan
    6/6/07 Armenia 1-0 Poland
    6/6/07 Finland 2-0 Belgium
    22/8/07 Armenia 1-1 Portugal
    22/8/07 Finland 2-1 Kazakhstan
    22/8/07 Belgium 3-2 Serbia
    8/9/07 Azerbaijan vs. Armenia Cancelled
    8/9/07 Serbia 0-0 Finland
    8/9/07 Portugal 2-2 Poland
    12/9/07 Armenia vs. Azerbaijan Cancelled
    12/9/07 Kazakhstan 2-2 Belgium
    12/9/07 Finland 0-0 Poland
    12/9/07 Portugal 1-1 Serbia
    13/10/07 Armenia 0-0 Serbia
    13/10/07 Azerbaijan 0-2 Portugal
    13/10/07 Poland 3-1 Kazakhstan
    13/10/07 Belgium 0-0 Finland
    17/10/07 Kazakhstan 1-2 Portugal
    17/10/07 Azerbaijan 1-6 Serbia
    17/10/07 Belgium 3-0 Armenia
    17/11/07 Finland 2-1 Azerbaijan
    17/11/07 Poland 2-0 Belgium
    17/11/07 Portugal 1-0 Armenia
    21/11/07 Armenia 0-1 Kazakhstan
    21/11/07 Portugal 0-0 Finland
    21/11/07 Serbia 2-2 Poland
    24/11/07 Serbia 1-0 Kazakhstan


    Group B
    1 Italy W9 D2 L1 - 29pt - +13
    2 France W8 D2 L2 - 26pt - +20

    3 Scotland W8 D0 L4 - 24pt - +9
    4 Ukraine W5 D2 L5 - 17pt - +2
    5 Lithuania W5 D1 L6 - 13pt - -2
    6 Georgia W3 D1 L8 - 10pt - -3
    7 Faroe Islands W0 D0 L12 - 0pt - -39


    *Italy, France qualify

    Results
    16/8/06 Faroe Islands 0-6 Georgia
    2/9/06 Scotland 6-0 Faroe Islands
    2/9/06 Georgia 0-3 France
    2/9/06 Italy 1-1 Lithuania
    6/9/06 Ukraine 3-2 Georgia
    6/9/06 Lithuania 1-2 Scotland
    6/9/06 France 3-1 Italy
    7/10/06 Faroe Islands 0-1 Lithuania
    7/10/06 Scotland 1-0 France
    7/10/06 Italy 2-0 Ukraine
    11/10/06 Ukraine 2-0 Scotland
    11/10/06 Georgia 1-3 Italy
    11/10/06 France 5-0 Faroe Islands
    24/3/07 Scotland 2-1 Georgia
    24/3/07 Faroe Islands 0-2 Ukraine
    24/3/07 Lithuania 0-1 France
    28/3/07 Ukraine 1-0 Lithuania
    28/3/07 Georgia 3-1 Faroe Islands
    28/3/07 Italy 2-0 Scotland
    2/6/07 Lithuania 1-0 Georgia
    2/6/07 France 2-0 Ukraine
    2/6/07 Faroe Islands 1-2 Italy
    6/6/07 Faroe Islands 0-2 Scotland
    6/6/07 France 1-0 Georgia
    6/6/07 Lithuania 0-2 Italy
    8/9/07 Scotland 3-1 Lithuania
    8/9/07 Georgia 1-1 Ukraine
    8/9/07 Italy 0-0 France
    12/9/07 Lithuania 2-1 Faroe Islands
    12/9/07 Ukraine 1-2 Italy
    12/9/07 France 0-1 Scotland
    13/10/07 Scotland 3-1 Ukraine
    13/10/07 Faroe Islands 0-6 France
    13/10/07 Italy 2-0 Georgia
    17/10/07 Ukraine 5-0 Faroe Islands
    17/10/07 Georgia 2-0 Scotland
    17/10/07 France 2-0 Lithuania
    17/11/07 Scotland 1-2 Italy
    17/11/07 Lithuania 2-0 Ukraine
    21/11/07 Georgia 0-2 Lithuania
    21/11/07 Italy 3-1 Faroe Islands
    21/11/07 Ukraine 2-2 France


    Group C
    1 Greece W10 D1 L1 - 31pt - +15
    2 Turkey W7 D3 L2 - 24pt - +14

    3 Norway W7 D2 L3 - 23pt - +16
    4 Bosnia-Herzegovina W4 D1 L7 - 13pt - -6
    6 Moldova W3 D3 L6 - 12pt - -7
    6 Hungary W4 D0 L8 - 12pt - -11
    7 Malta W1 D2 L9 - 5pt - -21


    *Greece, Turkey qualify

    Results
    2/9/06 Malta 2–5 Bosnia-Herzegovina
    2/9/06 Hungary 1–4 Norway
    2/9/06 Moldova 0–1 Greece
    6/9/06 Norway 2-0 Moldova
    6/9/06 Turkey 2-0 Malta
    6/9/06 Bosnia-Herzegovina 1-3 Hungary
    7/10/06 Moldova 2-2 Bosnia-Herzegovina
    7/10/06 Hungary 0-1 Turkey
    7/10/06 Greece 1-0 Norway
    11/10/06 Malta 2-1 Hungary
    11/10/06 Turkey 5-0 Moldova
    11/10/06 Bosnia-Herzegovina 0-4 Greece
    24/3/07 Moldova 1-1 Malta
    24/3/07 Norway 1-2 Bosnia-Herzegovina
    24/3/07 Greece 1-4 Turkey
    28/3/07 Hungary 2-0 Moldova
    28/3/07 Malta 0-1 Greece
    28/3/07 Turkey 2-2 Norway
    2/6/07 Greece 2-0 Hungary
    2/6/07 Bosnia-Herzegovina 3-2 Turkey
    2/6/07 Norway 4-0 Malta
    6/6/07 Norway 4-0 Hungary
    6/6/07 Bosnia-Herzegovina 1-0 Malta
    6/6/07 Greece 2-1 Moldova
    8/9/07 Hungary 1-0 Bosnia-Herzegovina
    8/9/07 Malta 2-2 Turkey
    8/9/07 Moldova 0-1 Norway
    12/9/07 Norway 2-2 Greece
    12/9/07 Turkey 3-0 Hungary
    12/9/07 Bosnia-Herzegovina 0-1 Moldova
    13/10/07 Hungary 2-0 Malta
    13/10/07 Moldova 1-1 Turkey
    13/10/07 Greece 3-2 Bosnia-Herzegovina
    17/10/07 Malta 2-3 Moldova
    17/10/07 Turkey 0-1 Greece
    17/10/07 Bosnia-Herzegovina 0-2 Norway
    17/11/07 Moldova 3-0 Hungary
    17/11/07 Norway 1-2 Turkey
    17/11/07 Greece 5-0 Malta
    21/11/07 Malta 1-4 Norway
    21/11/07 Turkey 1-0 Bosnia-Herzegovina
    21/11/07 Hungary 1-2 Greece


    Group D
    1 Czech Republic W9 D2 L1 - 29pt - +2
    2 Germany W8 D3 L1 - 27pt - +28

    3 Republic of Ireland W4 D5 L3 - 17pt - +3
    4 Slovakia W5 D1 L6 - 16pt - +10
    5 Wales W4 D3 L5 - 15pt - -1
    4 Cyprus W4 D2 L6 - 14pt - -7
    7 San Marino W0 D0 L12 - 0pt - -55


    *Czech Republic, Germany qualify

    Results
    2/9/06 Czech Republic 2-1 Wales
    2/9/06 Slovakia 6-1 Cyprus
    2/9/06 Germany 1-0 Republic of Ireland
    6/9/06 Slovakia 0-3 Czech Republic
    6/9/06 San Marino 0-13 Germany
    7/10/06 Wales 1-5 Slovakia
    7/10/06 Czech Republic 7-0 San Marino
    7/10/06 Cyprus 5-2 Republic of Ireland
    11/10/06 Republic of Ireland 1-1 Czech Republic
    11/10/06 Slovakia 1-4 Germany
    11/10/06 Wales 3-1 Cyprus
    15/11/06 Cyprus 1-1 Germany
    15/11/06 Republic of Ireland 5-0 San Marino
    7/2/07 San Marino 1-2 Republic of Ireland
    24/3/07 Republic of Ireland 1-0 Wales
    24/3/07 Cyprus 1-3 Slovakia
    24/3/07 Czech Republic 1-2 Germany
    28/3/07 Czech Republic 1-0 Cyprus
    28/3/07 Republic of Ireland 1-0 Slovakia
    28/3/07 Wales 3-0 San Marino
    2/6/07 Wales 0-0 Czech Republic
    2/6/07 Germany 6-0 San Marino
    6/6/07 Germany 2-1 Slovakia
    22/8/07 San Marino 0-1 Cyprus
    8/9/07 San Marino 0-3 Czech Republic
    8/9/07 Slovakia 2-2 Republic of Ireland
    8/9/07 Wales 0-2 Germany
    12/9/07 Slovakia 2-5 Wales
    12/9/07 Cyprus 3-0 San Marino
    12/9/07 Czech Republic 1-0 Republic of Ireland
    13/10/07 Slovakia 7-0 San Marino
    13/10/07 Cyprus 3-1 Wales
    13/10/07 Republic of Ireland 0-0 Germany
    17/10/07 San Marino 1-2 Wales
    17/10/07 Republic of Ireland 1-1 Cyprus
    17/10/07 Germany 0-3 Czech Republic
    17/11/07 Wales 2-2 Republic of Ireland
    17/11/07 Germany 4-0 Cyprus
    17/11/07 Czech Republic 3-1 Slovakia
    21/11/07 Cyprus 2-0 Czech Republic
    21/11/07 Germany 0-0 Wales
    21/11/07 San Marino 0-5 Slovakia


    Group E
    1 Croatia W9 D2 L1 - 29pt - +20
    2 Russia W7 D3 L2 - 24pt - +11
    3 England W7 D2 L3 - 23pt - +17
    4 Israel W7 D2 L3 - 23pt - +8
    5 FYR Macedonia W4 D2 L6 - 14pt - 0
    6 Estonia W2 D1 L9 - 7pt - -16
    7 Andorra W0 D0 L12 - 0pt - -40


    *Croatia, Russia qualify
    ** England, Israel separated on head-to-heads

    Results
    16/8/06 Estonia 0-1 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
    2/9/06 England 5-0 Andorra
    2/9/06 Estonia 0-1 Israel
    6/9/06 Russia 0-0 Croatia
    6/9/06 Israel 4-1 Andorra
    6/9/06 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia 0-1 England
    7/10/06 Russia 1-1 Israel
    7/10/06 England 0-0 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
    7/10/06 Croatia 7-0 Andorra
    11/10/06 Andorra 0-3 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
    11/10/06 Russia 2-0 Estonia
    11/10/06 Croatia 2-0 England
    15/11/06 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia 0-2 Russia
    15/11/06 Israel 3-4 Croatia
    24/3/07 Estonia 0-2 Russia
    24/3/07 Israel 0-0 England
    24/3/07 Croatia 2-1 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
    28/3/07 Israel 4-0 Estonia
    28/3/07 Andorra 0-3 England
    2/6/07 Estonia 0-1 Croatia
    2/6/07 Russia 4-0 Andorra
    2/6/07 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia 1-2 Israel
    6/6/07 Andorra 0-2 Israel
    6/6/07 Croatia 0-0 Russia
    6/6/07 Estonia 0-3 England
    22/8/07 Estonia 2-1 Andorra
    8/9/07 Russia 3-0 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
    8/9/07 England 3-0 Israel
    8/9/07 Croatia 2-0 Estonia
    12/9/07 Andorra 0-6 Croatia
    12/9/07 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia 1-1 Estonia
    12/9/07 England 3-0 Russia
    13/10/07 England 3-0 Estonia
    13/10/07 Croatia 1-0 Israel
    17/10/07 Russia 2-1 England
    17/10/07 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia 3-0 Andorra
    17/11/07 Andorra 0-2 Estonia
    17/11/07 Israel 2-1 Russia
    17/11/07 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia 2-0 Croatia
    21/11/07 Israel 1-0 Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
    21/11/07 Andorra 0-1 Russia
    21/11/07 England 2-3 Croatia


    Group F
    1 Spain W9 D1 L2 - 28pt - +15
    2 Sweden W8 D2 L2 - 26pt - +14

    3 Northern Ireland W6 D2 L4 - 20pt - +3
    4 Denmark W6 D2 L4 - 20pt - +10
    5 Latvia W4 D0 L8 - 12pt - -2
    6 Iceland W2 D2 L8 - 8pt - -17
    7 Liechtenstein W2 D1 L9 - 7pt - -23


    *Spain, Sweden qualify
    **Sweden awarded 3-0 win over Denmark following abandonment
    ***Northern Ireland, Denmark separated on head-to-heads

    Results
    2/9/06 Northern Ireland 0-3 Iceland
    2/9/06 Latvia 0-1 Sweden
    2/9/06 Spain 4-0 Liechtenstein
    6/9/06 Sweden 3-1 Liechtenstein
    6/9/06 Iceland 0-2 Denmark
    6/9/06 Northern Ireland 3-2 Spain
    7/10/06 Denmark 0-0 Northern Ireland
    7/10/06 Latvia 4-0 Iceland
    7/10/06 Sweden 2-0 Spain
    11/10/06 Iceland 1-2 Sweden
    11/10/06 Liechtenstein 0-4 Denmark
    11/10/06 Northern Ireland 1-0 Latvia
    24/3/07 Liechtenstein 1-4 Northern Ireland
    24/3/07 Spain 2-1 Denmark
    28/3/07 Liechtenstein 1-0 Latvia
    28/3/07 Northern Ireland 2-1 sweden
    28/3/07 Spain 1-0 Iceland
    2/6/07 Iceland 1-1 Liechtenstein
    2/6/07 Denmark 0-3 Sweden* Match abandoned, UEFA awarded 3-0 win to Sweden
    2/6/07 Latvia 0-2 Spain
    6/6/07 Sweden 5-0 Iceland
    6/6/07 Liechtenstein 0-2 Spain
    6/6/07 Latvia 0-2 Denmark
    22/8/07 Northern Ireland 3-1 Liechtenstein
    8/9/07 Latvia 1-0 Northern Ireland
    8/9/07 Sweden 0-0 Denmark
    8/9/07 Iceland 1-1 Spain
    12/9/07 Denmark 4-0 Liechtenstein
    12/9/07 Iceland 2-1 Northern Ireland
    12/9/07 Spain 2-0 Latvia
    13/10/07 Iceland 2-4 Latvia
    13/10/07 Liechtenstein 0-3 Sweden
    13/10/07 Denmark 1-3 Spain
    17/10/07 Denmark 3-1 Latvia
    17/10/07 Liechtenstein 3-0 Iceland
    17/10/07 Sweden 1-1 Northern Ireland
    17/11/07 Latvia 4-1 Liechtenstein
    17/11/07 Northern Ireland 2-1 Denmark
    17/11/07 Spain 3-0 Sweden
    21/11/07 Denmark 3-0 Iceland
    21/11/07 Spain 1-0 Northern Ireland
    21/11/07 Sweden 2-1 Latvia


    Group G
    1 Romania W9 D2 L1 - 29pt - +19
    2 Netherlands W8 D2 L2 - 26pt - +10

    3 Bulgaria W7 D4 L1 - 25pt - +11
    4 Belarus W4 D1 L7 - 13pt - -6
    5 Albania W2 D5 L5 - 11pt - -6
    5 Slovenia W3 D2 L7 - 11pt - -7
    7 Luxembourg W1 D0 L11 - 3pt - -21


    *Romania, Netherlands qualify
    ***Albania, Slovenia separated on head-to-heads

    Results
    2/9/06 Belarus 2-2 Albania
    2/9/06 Romania 2-2 Bulgaria
    2/9/06 Luxembourg 0-1 Netherlands
    6/9/06 Bulgaria 3-0 Slovenia
    6/9/06 Albania 0-2 Romania
    6/9/06 Netherlands 3-0 Belarus
    7/10/06 Romania 3-1 Belarus
    7/10/06 Bulgaria 1-1 Netherlands
    7/10/06 Slovenia 2-0 Luxembourg
    11/10/06 Belarus 4-2 Slovenia
    11/10/06 Luxembourg 0-1 Bulgaria
    11/10/06 Netherlands 2-1 Albania
    24/3/07 Luxembourg 1-2 Belarus
    24/3/07 Albania 0-0 Slovenia
    24/3/07 Netherlands 0-0 Romania
    28/3/07 Bulgaria 0-0 Albania
    28/3/07 Romania 3-0 Luxembourg
    28/3/07 Slovenia 0-1 Netherlands
    2/6/07 Albania 2-0 Luxembourg
    2/6/07 Slovenia 1-2 Romania
    2/6/07 Belarus 0-2 Bulgaria
    6/6/07 Bulgaria 2-1 Belarus
    6/6/07 Luxembourg 0-3 Albania
    6/6/07 Romania 2-0 Slovenia
    8/9/07 Luxembourg 0-3 Slovenia
    8/9/07 Belarus 1-3 Romania
    8/9/07 Netherlands 2-0 Bulgaria
    12/9/07 Bulgaria 3-0 Luxembourg
    12/9/07 Slovenia 1-0 Belarus
    12/9/07 Albania 0-1 Netherlands
    13/10/07 Belarus 0-1 Luxembourg
    13/10/07 Romania 1-0 Netherlands
    13/10/07 Slovenia 0-0 Albania
    17/10/07 Luxembourg 0-2 Romania
    17/10/07 Netherlands 2-0 Slovenia
    17/10/07 Albania 1-1 Bulgaria
    17/11/07 Bulgaria 1-0 Romania
    17/11/07 Albania 2-4 Belarus
    17/11/07 Netherlands 1-0 Luxembourg
    21/11/07 Romania 6-1 Albania
    21/11/07 Belarus 2-1 Netherlands
    21/11/07 Slovenia 0-2 Bulgaria


    Qualified Teams
    [​IMG]Austria - Hosts
    [​IMG]Switzerland - Hosts
    [​IMG] Germany - Qualified 13/10/07
    [​IMG] Greece - Qualified 17/10/07
    [​IMG] Czech Republic - Qualified 17/10/07
    [​IMG] Romania - Qualified 17/10/07
    [​IMG] Italy - Qualified 17/11/07
    [​IMG] France - Qualified 17/11/07
    [​IMG] Croatia - Qualified 17/11/07
    [​IMG] Poland - Qualified 17/11/07
    [​IMG] Spain - Qualified 17/11/07
    [​IMG] Netherlands - Qualified 17/11/07
    [​IMG] Sweden - Qualified 21/11/07
    [​IMG] Turkey - Qualified 21/11/07
    [​IMG] Portugal - Qualified 21/11/07
    [​IMG] Russia - Qualified 21/11/07


    Top Scorers
    David Healy (Northern Ireland) - 13
    Eduardo da Silva (Croatia) - 10
    Euzebiusz Smolarek (Poland) - 9
    Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal) - 8
    Lukas Podolski (Germany) - 8
    Jon Dahl Tomasson (Denmark) - 8

    Germany - 35
    Slovakia - 33
    Croatia - 28
    Czech Republic - 27
    Norway - 27

    Highest Score
    San Marino 0 - 13 Germany

    Archived: Yes, that's right. Scotland top their group. A group with Italy, France and Ukraine in. And have beaten France.

    Archived: TWICE.

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  2. MagpieRacer

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    Nice stuff Famine, good result for the Scots, shame it wont last:p
     
  3. Famine

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    I still find myself wondering why Israel, Russia and the triplet of Kazakhstan, Armenia and Azerbaijan are in the European Championships, given just how NOT in Europe they are...
     
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    brilliant performance from england. gerrard,hargreaves and generally the whole team was fantastic

    i know i dont like lampard anyway and i will be criticised for saying this but

    i dont think lampard played anywhere near as good as he can do yesterday
     
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    Bugger.
     
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    Preserved for posterity.

    Can we stop now?
     
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    Basically the whole of the British isles, would be great, but it'll never happen.
     
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    Are Ukraine good?
     
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    Better than us.
     
  11. Famine

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    You mean World Cup Quarterfinalists, Ukraine?
     
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    lol- yes i think so
     
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    Why, is there another Ukraine we should be thinking of?

    England kick off against Macedonia in just under 2 hours, should be a better match than the two walkovers we've so far played under McLaren.
     
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    I've got a couple of quid on 2-0 England. I think that's a very likely result.
     
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    Woooo, and indeed, Yay!

    Lithuania 1 - 2 Scotland

    Played 2, won 2. That's never ever ever ever ever happened to us before!
     
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    Neither has a +7 goal difference...
     
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    C'mon San Marino! You're only 9-0 down against Germany! There's time for a comeback yet...

    EDIT: 11-0 now!

    EDIT EDIT: 13 now!

    Northern Ireland 3 - 2 Spain

    Who saw that one coming?
     
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    San Marino 0 - 13 Germany...now that's how you bugger the living daylights out of a team.

    England game was naff and scrappy...but we got what we needed, 3 pts...Crouchy continuing his form and another clean sheet

    Oh yeah...and France 3 - 1 Italy...Forza Italia? I think not!
     
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    13-0, What a match :lol:.
     
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    real competitive game that must have been.....
     
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    I think those matches are pointless. When the best a team can possibly hope for is to lose 5 or 6 nil it's just silly, and humiliating for the players to lose by such ridiculous scores. I'm not saying that teams like San Marino should be denied the chance to qualify, but something needs to be done so there are less of them in there.
     
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    Every country with a national team in Europe has a chance to qualify, that shouldn't be changed. At the end of the day it is only a qualification competition, you don't want to start a qualify for the qualifying competition do you? And even then they'd still end up facing teams a lot better than them from time to time. There's nothing wrong with the way it is, your only further complicating something that needn't be that complicated adding more rounds, and to deny a team the chance to qualify before the qualifying begins just because they got beat 13-0 last time round is not a fair option.
     
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    San Marino, Faroes, Andorra, Lichtenstein etc should all have their own tournament first and the top 2 go through. At least that way, they should get to have some semi competitive matches. They should then be able to learn and improve. They're going to learn nothing getting beaten 13-0, 6-0, 5-0 every game.
     
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    That creates a problem though...

    How do you decide which teams need a minnow's play-off? By FIFA World Rankings, as the only sensible way. But by lumping Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Faroe Islands, Andorra, San Marino, Cyprus, Malta, Kazakhstan (outranked by Andorra!) and whoever in a single group, you artificially increase their competitive victories and goals, which artificially increases their FIFA World Rankings, putting them too high to fit into the pre-qualifying group, at the expense of teams like Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Belarus, Armenia et al. who often don't qualify well...

    Though you're right - they're going to learn nothing at all getting tonked every game, apart from how to get tonked every game.
     
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    The other drawback to that is that we'd probably end up in it...

    re your point about artificially boosting their rankings. That's why the USA are as high up as they are. They don't play anyone good most of the time, so they get good rankings, but then they don't perform in the world cup 'cos they're not as good as their rankings say they are.
     
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    Are you implying that they aren't tested by the might of Costa Rica, El Salvador, Trinidad and Tobago, Honduras, the Bahamas, Haiti, Guatemala...

    :D

    They were 4th going into the World Cup. 4th! They're currently 23rd... :lol:
     
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    FIFA are right, there needs to be preliminary qualification round for the smaller "cannon fodder" teams. At least prove amoungst themselves they have a right to fight for qualification
     
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    Isn't the Euro 2008 qualifying the competition that sives out the deserving teams from the undeserving ones? We already have the qualifying competitions, we don't need a qualifying for qualifying. If these lesser teams want to play lesser teams to get experience they have plenty of chances to arrange for friendlies between competions.
     
  30. daan

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    There was such a thing as pre-qualifying in F1 you know. So it's not exactly unprecedented.
     
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