I do use others as a base then go from there, but Im having alot of trouble with the european hothatchbacks and the Mazda roadster and another one of the small car ones, What cars do you think are best and a good setup, and I will adjust to my driving style. Trust me I know alot about not using others setups totally I race roadcourse motorcycles and I know that doesnt work at all, I just want what people think is a good car and a good setup to start with, every racer at the track when I go has at least knowledge which bike suits him/her or is a good bike and has, or knows someone that has a good setup to start with, thats all I ask.
its easier that way so then your not constantly frustrated by not winning or by others tunes not suiting your driving style 
