Evil Cars in GT4...

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Caterham 7 when you drive over the high rumble strips at Autumn Ring, it flies, very far.

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George Morley
Caterham 7 when you drive over the high rumble strips at Autumn Ring, it flies, very far.

For full effect to all 3 stages of weight reduction first.
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Been there, done that. Like playing TT and hitting the rumble strips. Insane!
 
vectradriver I ask because I'm taking a lightly modified Clio V6 around Deep Forest Raceway with the driving aids turned off. I can't keep it on the track all the time and quite often it goes into obscene pendulum motions. Fnnng! I know the real car had a reputation for twitchiness
I guess the reason why it is so evil is because the real thing is a little bit of a devil, at least acording to Jeremy Clarckson it is, and he was talking about the normal road legal version. So heads up to PD for making this so realistic.

If one can't control any car, there's only one thing to do: learn to drive it, learn to tune it, then learn to race it!

It's like the Yellowbird, once you master it you can't do anything else but love it.
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3-Wheel Drive
I'm convinced that my Peugeot 205 EvoII rally car may in fact hate me. Its handling is poor to begin with, but the car will not tolerate any driving surface transition, and any attempt to go form gravel/snow to tarmac (or vice versa) will result in the car flipping out and attempting to kill you. Gas or no gas, it will spin out if the road surface changes, an nothing I do seems to work. No other rally car I've driven is as ill-tempered as the 205, and none of the others seem to be a handful on every track it's put on.

...I think it hisses at me every time I pass it in the garage :nervous:
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205 rallycar is unstable at higher speeds, just like other group B cars are, especially on tarmac. on gravel 205 is unbeatable. RS200 on the other hand is capable racecar, it loves tarmac and dislikes gravel for it's understeery nature. mentally quick car and agile too.

but if I have to speak about undriveable cars cars that don't respond to any kind of suspension tuning? almost any Mercedes with V8/V12. they're so heavy that they rather do three-point turns on every corner than go it normally like other cars. then, of course, there are these american barges.. TVR and Clio's are easy to drive, and even Pikes Peak is manageable. but then, there's also this certain 16-cylinder wonder for a supercar.. Cizeta Moroder. it's in the same league with Merc.
 
Hmm.. Some people here really don't under stand that just lowering a car doesn't make it handle better. Did you guys come from street arcade racer games? Tsk tsk tsk.

You guys expect to much out of your cars, change the suspension a little, read around learn somthing. But lowring doesn't really help. Sure it looks cool, and I do it to all my cars, but I do other things, why don't you?
 
Master_Yoda
Hmm.. Some people here really don't under stand that just lowering a car doesn't make it handle better. Did you guys come from street arcade racer games? Tsk tsk tsk.
You guys expect to much out of your cars, change the suspension a little, read around learn somthing. But lowring doesn't really help. Sure it looks cool, and I do it to all my cars, but I do other things, why don't you?
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While you are right, some cars are worlds easier to drive just by lowering the suspension. I point to cars with high centers of gravity, such as the SW20 MR2.
 
the honda odysee[or whatever way you spell it.] that shouldnt have been in the game at all. the only time i used it was in the slipstream mission.
 
Master_Yoda
Hmm.. Some people here really don't under stand that just lowering a car doesn't make it handle better. Did you guys come from street arcade racer games? Tsk tsk tsk.

You guys expect to much out of your cars, change the suspension a little, read around learn somthing. But lowring doesn't really help. Sure it looks cool, and I do it to all my cars, but I do other things, why don't you?
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Yes and No.

While lowering a cars suspension too much can cause major problems if not balanced with other suspension changes, it is in its own right a very powerful tool.

Lowering a car lowers the centre of gravity and Polar moment of inertia, resulting in a car that will respond to direction changes better.

Lowering the COG also has the effect of changing (reducing) the load transfer that occurs as you corner, brake and accelerate.

Lowering certainly does help you and is a very powerful tool, as long as its matched to the track, car and other suspension settings.

I would however add that this....

maxed-out Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3 with the suspension lowered all the way @ the Ring.....................need I say more?

...is not a good move (certainly not a the 'ring).



Regards

Scaff
 
cerpin_taxt
the honda odysee[or whatever way you spell it.] that shouldnt have been in the game at all. the only time i used it was in the slipstream mission.
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Well, I don't think the Odyssey is the best vehicle in the game, but do this for some great fun with it:

Grab a friend and go to 2 Player Battle on any course with a straight. One person use the Dodge Ram 1500 and the other the Honda Odyssey. Do a head-on collision at ~100 mph and one of you should get some major, major air! Barrel of laughs right there!
 
do that with a dodge and a fiat 500 and then youve got yourself some seriously flying fun! (if you put the dodge on the super speedway in arcade mode and put the difficulty right down you'll have a whole field of such cars to play with. turn it round and you've got yourself some fun!!!) :sly:
 
When PD modeled the C12 they messed up very badly. The actual car should be miles and away faster than the 385 BHP Z06, but for some reason it is far slower than not only the Z06; but also the Grand Sport, ZR1 and even the Camaro SS.
 
cerpin_taxt
the honda odysee[or whatever way you spell it.] that shouldnt have been in the game at all. the only time i used it was in the slipstream mission.
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It is a Honda Odyssey but the car you drive to run the La Sarthe mission is a Renault, not a Honda...
 
modik
It is a Honda Odyssey but the car you drive to run the La Sarthe mission is a Renault, not a Honda...
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He's talking about the Slipstream Battle Missions, the ones with th Nissan Cube, Nissan Skyline, Honda Odyssey, and another that I can't remember right now.
 
I can't think of any cars that qualify as evil. But tricky cars, there are many.

Try the TVR Speed 12. It's one of my favorite GT4 cars, but it can get utterly impossible to control sometimes. It just slides too often - too much HP for a lightweight. But that doesn't mean it's evil - it's simply twitchy.
Same goes for lots of others, such as the Stratos. Too much oversteer can get you hard when in a race.

However, I think low-power-heavy-weight cars are even less. They're the most friendly cars there are, simply because they never get a chance to hit the speeds where others are failing
 
Toronado
When PD modeled the C12 they messed up very badly. The actual car should be miles and away faster than the 385 BHP Z06, but for some reason it is far slower than not only the Z06; but also the Grand Sport, ZR1 and even the Camaro SS.
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Don't worry. PD butchered it in GT3 too.:grumpy:

I don't think you can even get the car to do 180Mph stock!
 
Toronado
When PD modeled the C12 they messed up very badly. The actual car should be miles and away faster than the 385 BHP Z06, but for some reason it is far slower than not only the Z06; but also the Grand Sport, ZR1 and even the Camaro SS.
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thats because Chevy Rules!
 
Yeah, okay...
I will be calm about this: In real life, the Callaway C12 is not only faster than every Corvette ever made up until the C6 Z06, but it is also faster than both of the Corvette Z06's based on the C5; including the 385 BHP model and the 405 BHP model.
 
yeah, but how many C12's do you see every day? Ford GT's? Dodge Vipers? thats because chevy blows them all out of the water. with a twelve pack of grenades.
 
No, that is because Corvette's are more widespread as being "dentists cars." The Ford GT is no longer produced, but was faster than every Corvette ever (including the C6 Z06). The Viper is a limited production vehicle (and is faster than every Corvette except the C6 Z06). As is the C12.
 
I can't even tell if you are being serious or not, but here you go. I bolded the parts you should look at:
myself
I will be calm about this: In real life, the Callaway C12 is not only faster than every Corvette ever made up until the C6 Z06, but it is also faster than both of the Corvette Z06's based on the C5; including the 385 BHP model and the 405 BHP model.
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myself again
No, that is because Corvette's are more widespread as being "dentists cars." The Ford GT is no longer produced, but was faster than every Corvette ever (including the C6 Z06). The Viper is a limited production vehicle (and is faster than every Corvette except the C6 Z06). As is the C12.
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