Excesive wheel spin

[E-cobra]

How can you get rid of excesive wheel spin? most people that have a pegeout 908 or the toyota minolta knows that they shred their rear tyres really quickly. anyone know how to deal with this problem? any help would be appreciated

 

[dr_slump]

Be carefull with the throttle!

 

[E-cobra]

Be carefull with the throttle!

i am but this is more for my b-spec driver, did an endurance race with him in my 908 and he had to pit every 3 laps 4 new rear tyres. there must be a way in this game to reduce excesive wheel spin

 

[dr_slump]

Give your bob the advice to slow down and use a cool driver.

 

[veyron1001]

Open the diff and use taller gearing. It isnt hard to diagnose.

 

[Motor City Hami]

Will raising the traction control help B-spec Bob to keep from roasting the tires?

 

[E-cobra]

Will raising the traction control help B-spec Bob to keep from roasting the tires?

you don't get traction control in b-spec, you get no assists

 

[E-cobra]

Open the diff and use taller gearing. It isnt hard to diagnose.

the thing is the GT5 guide says that closing the diff provides more traction and what do you open? acceleration, initial?

 

[Mudd]

budious' pre-configured LSDs for general usage: (trial and error for car and track)
16/14/(12-13)
24/21/(12-13)
24/18/(12-13)
32/28/(12-13)
32/24/(12-13)
40/35/(12-13)
48/42/(12-13)
56/49/(12-13)
19/52/(12-13)
19/60/(12-13)
46/60/(?)

The numbers represent: Initial/accel/braking

I stumbled across this in another thread, found it very helpful. Credit to Bodious

 

[Motor City Hami]

The LSD will not stop both wheels from spinning if your Bob (or you) mashes the throttle. The LSD can help reduce outside wheel spin or inside wheel spin, but cannot eliminate both. The OP wasn't specific enough in their request.

 

[Mudd]

I completely agree, Hami. But I did say it was 'helpful'.....I have tried very hard, but have been unsuccessful in finding a complete cure for Bobs poor driving habits. I have, however, used LSD settings to improve Bobs performance. If you test a few of the settings above, you should be able to find one to help counter against the mistake that Bob is repetitively making. Aside from that, just set him to 'share' and let your buddies grind away and improve his exp. Lol

 

[E-cobra]

Aside from that, just set him to 'share' and let your buddies grind away and improve his exp. Lol

bob is a level 35 and his friends are between 32 and 35 as well and some are hot drivers some are cool and they all shred the 908's tyres. I found a solution to the problem though. the power of the car is just dumped all at once causing the wheels to loose traction so i got rid of the huge turbo i had on the 908 so it lost 200bhp but it means i no longer have the excessive wheel spin problem and i'm lapping similar lap times only a little slower on lemans.

 

[E-cobra]

The LSD will not stop both wheels from spinning if your Bob (or you) mashes the throttle.

I dont mash the throttle but no matter how smooth you are the rear tyres just light themselves up and by the end of a mini endurance race you have no rear tyre left but a whole lot of front tyre left.

 

[YellowG1]

I dont mash the throttle but no matter how smooth you are the rear tyres just light themselves up and by the end of a mini endurance race you have no rear tyre left but a whole lot of front tyre left.

At the end of the day, bob is just a powersliding idiot unfortunately. Best bet is to dial back the power where feasible, particularly where the car has a very peaky power delivery (like the 908 or the Toyota 7).

 

[E-cobra]

Best bet is to dial back the power where feasible, particularly where the car has a very peaky power delivery (like the 908 or the Toyota 7).

yh thats what i have done but it just makes tuning up the cars pointless then as the cars can't handle the power. The game doesn't even give you tips to help you out with this.

 

[MNLumberjack]

I dont mash the throttle but no matter how smooth you are the rear tyres just light themselves up and by the end of a mini endurance race you have no rear tyre left but a whole lot of front tyre left.

Short shift (If you play manual that is) it helps me if I can't control the throttle and I won't use TC.

Short shift low gears and in the corners, but do it normal on the straights.

 

[Spookyrabbit]

yh thats what i have done but it just makes tuning up the cars pointless then as the cars can't handle the power. The game doesn't even give you tips to help you out with this.

To be fair, it is a simulator and there's only so much power the tyres and drive train can handle before they're unable to function as through should. There's a reason that the tyres on top fuel dragsters are 6ft tall and 3ft wide (* not actual measurements. Just a guess to illustrate a point)

 

[Adrenaline]

Set your Top Speed as high as you possibly can.
Raise the back of the car higher than the front by about 10.
You can also kill your LSD to 5/5/5 in extreme scenario's.

 

[E-cobra]

Set your Top Speed as high as you possibly can.

raising top speed doesn't help, the problem with the cars are that the power from the turbo (this only happens with cars that have a turbo not cars with a supercharger) is delivered in one large amount not at a constant rate so you wheels break traction when the power is delivered. only option is to remove the turbo or the game allows you to sort out the boost of the turbo. yet another issue of gt5

 

[Adrenaline]

raising top speed doesn't help, the problem with the cars are that the power from the turbo (this only happens with cars that have a turbo not cars with a supercharger) is delivered in one large amount not at a constant rate so you wheels break traction when the power is delivered. only option is to remove the turbo or the game allows you to sort out the boost of the turbo. yet another issue of gt5

Bull****... The issue is not with GT5, it's with your driving. A lot of us drive these cars perfectly fine, with no issues of wheel spin. You can argue that changing your gear ratios doesn't work, but you're wrong and it only takes simple math, or a basic knowledge of gear reduction to understand it. If you don't understand it, that's fine, but don't contradict someone trying to help, when you don't know what you're talking about.

I don't drive my Minolta very often, but when I do, I drive the hell out of it without any tire spin issues, with the exception of 1st gear. The reason BOB has issues, it because you probably forgot to take into account, that he has to use 2 full tire grades lower than you do. So yes, in that scenario, you might have to sacrifice some power, because you simply can't put 1000hp to the ground, with ****** tires. The same thing happens when you try to put 500hp to the ground on Comfort Hard tires. It's not because of the power curve the turbo creates, It's simply an equation of torque vs grip. And guess what? Torque can be manipulated by gear ratios, but manipulation does have it's limits of which are defined by grip and torque.

 

[veyron1001]

raising top speed doesn't help, the problem with the cars are that the power from the turbo (this only happens with cars that have a turbo not cars with a supercharger) is delivered in one large amount not at a constant rate so you wheels break traction when the power is delivered. only option is to remove the turbo or the game allows you to sort out the boost of the turbo. yet another issue of gt5

Raising top speed reduces torque so yes it does reduce wheel spin. Its you that can not control your car.

 

[E-cobra]

Bull****... The issue is not with GT5, it's with your driving. A lot of us drive these cars perfectly fine, with no issues of wheel spin. You can argue that changing your gear ratios doesn't work, but you're wrong and it only takes simple math, or a basic knowledge of gear reduction to understand it. If you don't understand it, that's fine, but don't contradict someone trying to help, when you don't know what you're talking about.

I don't drive my Minolta very often, but when I do, I drive the hell out of it without any tire spin issues, with the exception of 1st gear. The reason BOB has issues, it because you probably forgot to take into account, that he has to use 2 full tire grades lower than you do. So yes, in that scenario, you might have to sacrifice some power, because you simply can't put 1000hp to the ground, with ****** tires. The same thing happens when you try to put 500hp to the ground on Comfort Hard tires. It's not because of the power curve the turbo creates, It's simply an equation of torque vs grip. And guess what? Torque can be manipulated by gear ratios, but manipulation does have it's limits of which are defined by grip and torque.

my driving is not in question here it is very smooth and i have tried lowering and increasing gear ratios and the same problem still occurs of when you start using more than half throttle in 1st, 2nd gear even in 3rd then you get wheel spin. I used racing hard tyres for the testing that i did and those are the same tyres that BOB uses so i did take it into account.

The torque from the engine though is not delivered at a smooth constant rate so near the bottom of the rev range you have barely any torque. Middle of the rev range you get an exponential torque growth and at the top the torque starts to drop off a little. so how would you tune your gear ratio for that because thats what i'm getting with my cars. But i only get it with cars with a high rpm turbo. cars with a supercharger lik my zr1 don't have this problem because of how they work

 

[E-cobra]

Raising top speed reduces torque so yes it does reduce wheel spin. Its you that can not control your car.

I raised my top speed from 251 to 315 and decreased final gear ratio and the ratio of 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear and all tht happened was the car dropped way out of the power band when i changed gear then as the revs increased power spiked at 5000-6000 rpm and the rears spun again in every gear up till 3rd. so i am forced to use around 1/4 throttle in 1st and 2nd gear and 1/2 throttle in 3rd before i can use full throttle in 4th.

But like i said at the start of this thread it's not for me i know how to control my right foot its for my b-spec driver. please read through the thread before posting a comment.