Extremis Style: Sentry, Indication of a Film Debut?

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SuperShouden
My only problem with this is...is seems like it's going to be the same story as the first two movies: someone gets a hold of Iron Man's suit technology, wreaks havoc and then, at the last moment, Iron Man will find someway, and invent some new technology to save the day.
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Shane Black has already said he is eager to avoid exactly that.
 
SuperShouden
My only problem with this is...is seems like it's going to be the same story as the first two movies: someone gets a hold of Iron Man's suit technology, wreaks havoc and then, at the last moment, Iron Man will find someway, and invent some new technology to save the day.
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The whole point of Iron Man's story is that he frequently has to fight the very weapons he invented - the reason he decided to become a superhero in the first place.
So naturally, most of his stories revolve around this.

What makes Iron Man great in my opinion isn't the individual stories. Its the overall story of Iron Man and how his character develops along with those around him.
A lot of focus is put into his inability to really maintain a good relationship with any of his friends. Frequently they break down thanks to his massive focus on his goals.

Basically its a very self-centered story, but the point its not about the story of hero vs villain. Its about the impact on the hero's life and the effects on his friends and family.

Quite clearly with this third film its really hitting it home. A lot of this is why people tend to draw parallels with Batman. The only difference really between Batman and Iron Man is their approach to their work. But their character away from their work is quite similar.

I imagine quite a lot of people preferred Iron Man's part in the Avengers film. But see I think its Iron Man's weakest role as it only really shows his public face - not the interesting parts of him.
Same goes for when Batman takes part in the Justice League - he just becomes "the detective" picking up the pieces and leading. The interesting side of him - his internal struggles and turmoil - are generally left out.
 
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SuperShouden
Magic Rings? I thought that's what gave Juggernaut his powers? That would make two villains with magical rings in the same universe?

Man, the Marvel Universe just makes my head hurt some times.
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It also helps to consider the fact that the X-Men have no place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe(Marvel self-financed films). All X-Men films are produced and distributed by Fox, which has little influence on the overall direction of the MCU.

It is part of the reason why Norman Osborn isn't going to be in the Iron Patriot armor in Iron Man 3.
 
SuperShouden
My only problem with this is...is seems like it's going to be the same story as the first two movies: someone gets a hold of Iron Man's suit technology, wreaks havoc and then, at the last moment, Iron Man will find someway, and invent some new technology to save the day.
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You're being way too vague with it, though. You could apply what you said to any of the current Superhero movies like Spider-Man or even Batman. Hell, you could apply the basic plot of any action movie into a couple sentences.

As Ardius said perfectly, it's about how the character develops. With this, Spider-Man isn't exactly a good example (but it is there in the first trilogy w/ Parker wanting a normal relationship with Mary Jane), but people loved Nolan's Batman movies because of Wayne's internal conflicts as well as battling complete mad men. And it's here in the Iron Man trilogy; we can see Stark having a conflict with not only the Mandarin & his drinking, but a possible conflict of him trying to have a relationship with Pepper & the suit at the same time.
 
I would love to see him trying to "have a relationship with the suit":lol:

But Extremis is my fourth favorite IM arc, so I'll be following this movie closely.
 
Iron Man 3 NOT a serious movie:

Following the release of Marvel's Iron Man 3 trailer, many fans took notice of a presumed tonal shift in the series, perhaps a darker, more somber interpretation of Tony Stark and his armor-clad adventures. However, in a recent interview, Marvel head honcho Kevin Feige told viewers not to expect some grand, serious departure for this third installment -- just something a little different.

"It's not a serious movie, but we seriously dig into exploring more of Tony," Feige told The West Australian (via Coming Soon). "The trick is just trying to make great movies. We try to make them all great, all different and all fresh. What you'll see in Iron Man 3 is some very unique directions that were taken."

Added the film's director Shane Black, "We're not aiming for bigger, necessarily. We're aiming for different and fresh and new. It's all about capturing that lightning-in-a-bottle feel, about trying to get as much into this as we can. We're looking to get a ton of thrills into a short space, to make a nice little stew for you."

Even Robert Downey, Jr. clarified what's in store for the upcoming sequel, citing Joss Whedon's The Avengers as an example. "You can dissect why [The Avengers] was the right movie with the right people and the right director at the time. But we feel the same way about Iron Man 3 now."

Speaking of The Avengers, Feige also recently spoke to the aftermath of that film and how it will relate to Tony in Iron Man 3. "By the end of Avengers, when a portal is opened up in Manhattan and he's met Thor and The Hulk and the Chitauri are coming down on him, he realizes that he doesn't know everything," Feige told Empire Magazine (via Collider). "We think that has had an effect on his psyche, and then his world is blown out from underneath him."

However, don't expect a barrage of cameos from Black Widow, Captain America or even Nick Fury this time around. Continued Feige, "We're sticking to the vision for these films, and showing once again that these characters are just as interesting alone as they are together."

Iron Man 3 hits theaters May 3.
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Well, while I'm not entirely disappointed I do have to wonder why the trailer was formulated the way it was only to have Shane (among others) come out and basically say the trailer was nothing but a facade.

I am glad they squashed it now as opposed to letting us walk into the theaters next year expecting some incredible overturn just to see much of the same.
 
Terronium-12
Iron Man 3 NOT a serious movie:



Well, while I'm not entirely disappointed I do have to wonder why the trailer was formulated the way it was only to have Shane (among others) come out and basically say the trailer was nothing but a facade.

I am glad they squashed it now as opposed to letting us walk into the theaters next year expecting some incredible overturn just to see much of the same.
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But wouldn't it be wonderful if Shane Black gave all of those at Marvel a middle finger and proved that Iron Man CAN be a serious movie and franchise? I mean, while I am glad that they quashed rumors of the overtone of the film up front, doesn't the fact that having the Mandarin as a villain necessitate a more serious tone of the movie?
 
That's what I would have guessed, by all means. Especially if they're portraying the Mandarin that could rip Tony to shreds with his bare fists. That's not something I could ever see them making light of.

And then there's Extremis. I don't get it, personally.
 
CAMAROBOY69
Lets just hope they dont make it too dark like Spider-Man 3. Another failure.
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SPIDER-MAN 3 was not a dark film SPIDER-MAN 3 tried to be a dark film, but failed. It failed because it was dark for the sake of being dark, and consequently the villains (another problem was that the film had too many villains and couldn't settle on a primary villain) were weak. If you look at the likes of THE DARK KNIGHT and SKYFALL, making a good film that is dark is, in fact, quite possible.

Also, it really didn't help when the claimx of SPIDER-MAN 3 was exactly the same as the climax for the first two films.
 
Now we know who is exactly behind the Iron Patriot Armor, or at least who is supposed to.

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Mhm. Although I'm sure that was debunked long before now. :p
 
It was Marvel who put it out a couple of days ago, so better late than never...
 
Erm... so, yeah, conflicting viewpoints now. All from the same person.

Taken from IGN:

Iron Man 3' [Shane] Black Promises Gritty Thriller

Tony Stark is going back to his (cinematic) roots, in a way, in Iron Man 3.

Wired recently spoke to director Shane Black and co-star Don Cheadle (who reprises his role as James "War Machine" Rhodes). It's a video interview that, sadly, doesn't appear to be embeddable but that won't stop us from getting some choice quotes.

“We had kind of a conundrum in that The Avengers opens up this huge skyhole full of inter-dimensional aliens, and you kind of look back and [think], ’Well, what do you do after that?’ Except go back to a sort of more gritty, intense kind of techno-thriller root,” explained Black.

The director said, “I owe sort of a debt to [Jon] Favreau I have to carry on what he started without violating it — at the same time bringing sort of my own enhancement if I can.
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So, there appears to be two ways in which you could take this:

1. It'll be nothing like 2.
2. It'll embrace the ambiance created in The Avengers and thus return to it's original mood and pace experienced in the first IM movie.
 
Okay, I had a few days to stew over what Shane Black said about the mood for Iron Man 3, and Kevin Feige really capped it off by telling us what he really means.

I think that it was Superhero Hype that broke the story over what he means about what he said about going back to the series roots, and they analyzied it as Tony Stark "Going back into the Cave" sort of talk. Tony would be forced into a position where all of his armors are destroyed, he has no lab to make a new one, all he has is the armor and his wits, and he has to survive against the Madarain.
 
Quick question: What the hell is that in the background?


And all I can really say is I'm looking forward to the movie. I enjoyed the first two a lot, and I can't say I see this one being any different so far. Either way it should make for a fun movie even if they do screw up everything other than special effects.
 
I'm really looking forward to this film, can't say I've ever read an Iron Man comic but I did enjoy the first 2 films a lot.
 
I don't know what to make of that. I don't find him to be particularly menacing - he's kind of like an aged hippie.
 

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