Fallout 3

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Thats my only minor complaint I had about Fallout, I like games which make me feel vulnerable, I fear Deathclaws just from what I'd heard but when I finally encountered one I was level 20 and it wasn't a big deal at all because you have so much ammo and health packs, good armour to, that it wasn't a problem to deal with on my own. To begin with I was avoiding alot of enemies and I enjoyed knowing I was in danger, the survival aspect made it incredibly gripping.

I totally understand where you are coming from. I have yet to see a Deathclaw and am pretty worried about them at this stage even though I did already come across the Super Mutant Behemoth at the GNR building.
Early on in the game I did a lot of wondering through the wasteland exploring to the North West of Megaton. Even travelling short distances had me fearing for my life as I had no idea what was out there. My first Mirelurk encounter was extremely unsettling. IT was chasing me through the wasteland for a very long time

Have you guys try getting the Brotherhood of Steel Armor earlier than the plot?

I think you pick one up at the GNR building but I require some training to wear it. Not sure where I have to go to find the trainer at this stage.

 

[thefraggle]

i picked mine up from pc world for £9.97 in a bargain bin and got bioshock for the same price. I bought two DLC pack, the pitt and the broken steel. both are brilliant and if you like the film escape from new york then the pitt is a must as it is fairly similar. There is a foe who i thought was harder than the deathclaw and that is a superior mutant that has a tripple laser rifle which will kill you in about 5 shot and i dont mean burts shots i mean 5 single shots from the triple laser. i find one of the more trouble thigns with this game is which perk to take when i level up.
I found the game gets more glitchy the further into it i get. i am on about 90 hours of game play in about 2 weeks and have discovered over 100 places. Like i say the further i get into it the more glitches happen.

 

[niky]

I ran into my first Deathclaw relatively early in the game... just going out exploring. If you're under level ten, finding Deathclaw Sanctuary means that you're either stuck there, or, if you're smart and save every fifteen minutes like I do, you've just wasted about thirty minutes of gameplay.

If you are afraid of deathclaws make sure to build the dart gun. Its the easiest way to take out the Deathclaws. Since they usually jump about 50 feet at a time this dart gun brings them to a crawl. 👍

Took me a while to find the Dart Gun specs... but it was totally worth it just for this! 👍 A Dart Gun and a follower like Charon (the best follower you can get before you enter the Brotherhood compound) will make short work of Deathclaws.

This thread reminds me I really need to finish up my neutral character. Currently level 14 and need to get it to 20. I have already played through as good, evil, now trying to finish up neutral.

Again, too hard! Imagine how many pockets you have to pick to lower your Karma after every mission!

Have you guys try getting the Brotherhood of Steel Armor earlier than the plot?

You can pick one up off an Outcast if you're nearby and a rocket kills them. Doesn't do you any good. I had three or four sets of power armor before I even started the GNR plotline first time around... and the Brotherhood Citadel is the only place you can get training. They won't even talk to you there until after the start of the Purifier plotline, which happens to be near the very end of the main story-arc.

Your follower can use one, no problem though... and I'm betting you can equip people you're escorting with these things, too. Which has never made sense to me... apparently you're the only one in the entire Wasteland without armor training.

 

[thefraggle]

The further you get through the game the more hard beasties and badies are in the game it seems.
God i hope they sort out the reliablity issues for new vegas

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Yeah no kidding. Fallout 3 sure is a buggy game from beginning to end. Especially the DLC. When Fallout New Vegas released DLC I will probably wait a few days to buy it. I still dont have the Death From Above achievement because of the Broken Steel bug they had the day it came out. Oh well.
Oh and I guess I am only level 13 with my neutral character. I thought I was level 14. I need to get to 20 before May comes.

 

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I took a week long break from Fallout 3 to play some Oblivion. As much as I heard people say they are similar in game play, I think they couldn’t be further apart really. Love both games equally however. I found in Oblivion I had no real fear of anything, not even in the dungeon at the start, and by the time you get out of there, you are already sufficiently equipped to take on pretty much anyone. I missed the VATS system from fallout as well, it has grown on me and I really enjoyed using it for great dramatic explosions etc especially with the bloody mess perk

One thing that I did realize when playing both games is how badly Fallout 3 is missing any sort of vehicle or animal to ride. In Oblivion I quite enjoyed obtaining a horse and riding from town to town instead of using the quick travel feature and I think I probably would do the same in fallout if I had some Madmax-esque dune buggy. Is this ever addressed in any of the expansions?

I will definitely play Oblivion for a very long time as it seems there is plenty to do, however out of the two games, Fallout 3 still calls out to me more, probably because of the setting. I really enjoy dystopian movies in general and this is no different really.

 

[nk4e]

I fell through the map to get mine but the plot line somehow skipped and they already knew who you were.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

I took a week long break from Fallout 3 to play some Oblivion. As much as I heard people say they are similar in game play, I think they couldn’t be further apart really. Love both games equally however. I found in Oblivion I had no real fear of anything, not even in the dungeon at the start, and by the time you get out of there, you are already sufficiently equipped to take on pretty much anyone. I missed the VATS system from fallout as well, it has grown on me and I really enjoyed using it for great dramatic explosions etc especially with the bloody mess perk

One thing that I did realize when playing both games is how badly Fallout 3 is missing any sort of vehicle or animal to ride. In Oblivion I quite enjoyed obtaining a horse and riding from town to town instead of using the quick travel feature and I think I probably would do the same in fallout if I had some Madmax-esque dune buggy. Is this ever addressed in any of the expansions?

I will definitely play Oblivion for a very long time as it seems there is plenty to do, however out of the two games, Fallout 3 still calls out to me more, probably because of the setting. I really enjoy dystopian movies in general and this is no different really.

I could never get into Oblivion. That combat system sucks. I realize Fallout 3 uses the same combat system but Fallout 3 uses VATS. And that is one of the coolest combat features to this day. If Oblivion had Vats I might have been able to enjoy it. This is VATS for those that dont already know. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/307956.html

 

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I just got Fallout 3 in today, I know its been out for a few years now but I no longer purchase games unless I know for a fact I will be playing them a long time afterwards. So far the only games I actually own are EA Skate 1 & 2 ( I skated for 16 years and Skate is just so much fun for anyone but especially for people that skate, I have spent hours just skating a set of 10's in the game many times) COD4, MW2, and a handful of terrible games for my kids like Avatar air bender etc. I have bought arcade games on live like UNO ( for my wife, god I hate uno, I hate any game where you do good only by luck ) and a few others. Oh, I also bought Scene it? Lights, camera, action so my wife and I could play a game together since she hates video games. She stopped playing it because I always stomped her, and I can't just let people win because my brain isn't wired like that. Hopefully Fallout 3 will get my attention, I really hated oblivion and also despised Mass Effect, I'm really not a RPG type of guy no matter what type of new things they put in like they did in Mass Effect. I know this is a RPG but I really love the post apocalyptic theme and I really love steam punk style stuff so I should enjoy it, my avatar on xbl is decked out from head to toe in steam punk items

 

[Famine]

Neutral to 20? That's too hard!

I'm Neutral at 30

I'm also maxed out - 10 for every SPECIAL, 100 for every Skill - and my weapon/armour store has one of almost everything, including all the unique weapons/armour and those from the DLC except Broken Steel because I haven't reached it yet and some of the Mothership Zeta stuff that I just plain missed.

My endless supply of perfect condition Chinese Assault Rifles do 108 damage each, with my huge collection of perfect condition Combat Shotguns and Tri-Beam Laser Rifles I can toe-to-toe with Overlords and Albino Radscorpions, Feral Ghoul Reavers are a bit of a pest still, Deathclaws can be taken down entirely within VATS with a Combat Shotgun and almost everything else is a two-shot kill at worst. I picked up Grim Reaper's Sprint at 20, so I can take down three Deathclaws at once (Combat Shotgun has 12 rounds, VATS permits four shots; VATS, shot shot shot shot, kill restores AP - repeat until reload).

Computer hacking at 100 is hilarious. Lock picking is still the same as it is at 0, oddly. 100 in Big Guns means a Fat Man can take out the Behemoths - you don't need to waste nukes with the Experimental MIRV.


That said, I hate the game still. I just picked up a cheap copy of the GOTY edition so I could make up my trophies back to 100% and build the perfect character. I'm just rounding up some of the less well-known unique pieces right now - Highwayman's Friend, Hat of the People, that sort of thing - before I embark on the final two missions and Broken Stell.

 

[Sureboss]

I'll do exactly that, my trophies dropped from 84% to 41% (I think) with the expansion packs.

 

[niky]

I'm Neutral at 30

I'm also maxed out - 10 for every SPECIAL, 100 for every Skill - and my weapon/armour store has one of almost everything, including all the unique weapons/armour and those from the DLC except Broken Steel because I haven't reached it yet and some of the Mothership Zeta stuff that I just plain missed.

My endless supply of perfect condition Chinese Assault Rifles do 108 damage each, with my huge collection of perfect condition Combat Shotguns and Tri-Beam Laser Rifles I can toe-to-toe with Overlords and Albino Radscorpions, Feral Ghoul Reavers are a bit of a pest still, Deathclaws can be taken down entirely within VATS with a Combat Shotgun and almost everything else is a two-shot kill at worst. I picked up Grim Reaper's Sprint at 20, so I can take down three Deathclaws at once (Combat Shotgun has 12 rounds, VATS permits four shots; VATS, shot shot shot shot, kill restores AP - repeat until reload).

Computer hacking at 100 is hilarious. Lock picking is still the same as it is at 0, oddly. 100 in Big Guns means a Fat Man can take out the Behemoths - you don't need to waste nukes with the Experimental MIRV.


That said, I hate the game still. I just picked up a cheap copy of the GOTY edition so I could make up my trophies back to 100% and build the perfect character. I'm just rounding up some of the less well-known unique pieces right now - Highwayman's Friend, Hat of the People, that sort of thing - before I embark on the final two missions and Broken Stell.

Goddamnit... stop it! I've been holding off buying the GOTY pack for months!

Now you've got me interested, again!

When my wife starts throwing cutlery at me again in two month's time, I'll blame you.

RE: endless supply... only possible with the expansion packs, yes? Chinese Rifles are a pain to find in the main story-arc.

 

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I just got Fallout 3 in today, I know its been out for a few years now but I no longer purchase games unless I know for a fact I will be playing them a long time afterwards..............I'm really not a RPG type of guy no matter what type of new things they put in like they did in Mass Effect. I know this is a RPG but I really love the post apocalyptic theme and I really love steam punk style stuff so I should enjoy it, my avatar on xbl is decked out from head to toe in steam punk items

I tend to do the same thing and mostly buy games that have been out for a fair while. Cheaper and the verdict is usually in on how good it really is. Also not an RPG guy but I really enjoy this game due to the post apocalyptic theme as well. Hope you like it as much as I do.

That said, I hate the game still. I just picked up a cheap copy of the GOTY edition so I could make up my trophies back to 100% and build the perfect character. I'm just rounding up some of the less well-known unique pieces right now - Highwayman's Friend, Hat of the People, that sort of thing - before I embark on the final two missions and Broken Stell.

Why then? Life is too short to waste on a game you don't enjoy.





Anyway, the bugs started popping up pretty frequently now. It doesn't detract from the game play but is a little annoying that the game is not a polished product.

Went for a stroll through the wasteland today and stumbled across Fort Bannister. Pretty easily infiltrated under the cover of night but damn there are a lot of Talon company guys in the tunnels, super mutants are an absolute walk in the park but these guys for some reason give me a run for my money.

 

[Dragonistic]

RE: endless supply... only possible with the expansion packs, yes? Chinese Rifles are a pain to find in the main story-arc.

I have a big stack myself and I don't have any expansion, I use the normal ones to maintain my Xuanlong unique Chinese assault rifle which tears things up nicely.

 

[Famine]

RE: endless supply... only possible with the expansion packs, yes? Chinese Rifles are a pain to find in the main story-arc.

It's not literally endless, but I keep collecting them. With a repair of 100, I'll almost never run out of them - especially as I've done every side mission and storyline mission bar the last two now

Why then? Life is too short to waste on a game you don't enjoy.

Who said I didn't enjoy it? I hate it as well. There's a good game trying to get out, crippled by bugs and fussiness. And when Broken Steel is done, it's going back on the shelf - or being loaned to Sureshot.

 

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Ok, I got to play the game a little last night because I have just not had time the last 2 days. I just made it out of the vault and basically have no direction on what I should be doing or going. I walked around a bit and I am now in a school where I saved it and laid down for the night. I'm not sure what items I come across that I should pick up and what I should just leave either. At one point I was so heavy I had to just drop some items, I'm a hoarder in real life so this will be a problem in the game Is there a certain area I should go towards? Or a map? And what items should I be keeping here at the beginning of the game? I have a bunch of armored suits from the guys in the vault and coffee cups and some glue and also some conductors which I thought would come in really handy since you can make and repair things, but I'm just not sure since this is the first time I have played the game and it is HUGE and they really don't explain much about anything in it for us.

 

[Appie]

It's not literally endless, but I keep collecting them. With a repair of 100, I'll almost never run out of them - especially as I've done every side mission and storyline mission bar the last two now



Who said I didn't enjoy it? I hate it as well. There's a good game trying to get out, crippled by bugs and fussiness. And when Broken Steel is done, it's going back on the shelf - or being loaned to Sureshot.

I was wondering, u didn't got any bugged trophies or something? For me 2 trophies bugged because i found 99 ingots and the last one was glitched and i couldn't find the last Memo in MotherShip Zeta. Might give it a try one day to get those trophies.

 

[Famine]

No, they all worked fine for me.

Mothership Zeta is a buggy bugfest of bugginess though. Froze more often than even the original game, amazingly.

 

[Appie]

No, they all worked fine for me.

Mothership Zeta is a buggy bugfest of bugginess though. Froze more often than even the original game, amazingly.

I couldn't find one memo because the redicoules time u had before u could get in and i found out later that i needed one . funny enough i didn't had a lot of problems with the freezes.

 

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Ok, I got to play the game a little last night because I have just not had time the last 2 days. I just made it out of the vault and basically have no direction on what I should be doing or going. I walked around a bit and I am now in a school where I saved it and laid down for the night. I'm not sure what items I come across that I should pick up and what I should just leave either. At one point I was so heavy I had to just drop some items, I'm a hoarder in real life so this will be a problem in the game Is there a certain area I should go towards? Or a map? And what items should I be keeping here at the beginning of the game? I have a bunch of armored suits from the guys in the vault and coffee cups and some glue and also some conductors which I thought would come in really handy since you can make and repair things, but I'm just not sure since this is the first time I have played the game and it is HUGE and they really don't explain much about anything in it for us.

Head for Megaton. If I remeber right, it should be south of the school. Once you are there, do some side missions until you have enough skill to disarm the bomb as you will then get your own pad. Then you can horde to your hearts content.

Who said I didn't enjoy it? I hate it as well. There's a good game trying to get out, crippled by bugs and fussiness. And when Broken Steel is done, it's going back on the shelf - or being loaned to Sureshot.

It was just the impression I got from this post in the ps3 Fallout thread. I agree it certainly needs some fixing as it really is a great game just it's a little too buggy.Hopefully Bethesda learn from their mistakes when they release New Vegas.

 

[niky]

I'm going to have to reboot my Fallout to find this Xuanlong Rifle... haven't finished that niggling sidequest... agh.

Ok, I got to play the game a little last night because I have just not had time the last 2 days. I just made it out of the vault and basically have no direction on what I should be doing or going. I walked around a bit and I am now in a school where I saved it and laid down for the night. I'm not sure what items I come across that I should pick up and what I should just leave either. At one point I was so heavy I had to just drop some items, I'm a hoarder in real life so this will be a problem in the game Is there a certain area I should go towards? Or a map? And what items should I be keeping here at the beginning of the game? I have a bunch of armored suits from the guys in the vault and coffee cups and some glue and also some conductors which I thought would come in really handy since you can make and repair things, but I'm just not sure since this is the first time I have played the game and it is HUGE and they really don't explain much about anything in it for us.

Once you leave the Vault, if you walk straight out, you should get to Megaton. You took a pretty wild side detour to hit the school... and clearing that of Raiders isn't a task to be taken lightly when you're basically level zero.

Megaton is South-Southeast of the school. You can't miss it. It's basically a tall fort/junkyard with bits of plane sticking out of it. It's only a two minute walk Southeast of the Vault.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

Ok, I got to play the game a little last night because I have just not had time the last 2 days. I just made it out of the vault and basically have no direction on what I should be doing or going. I walked around a bit and I am now in a school where I saved it and laid down for the night. I'm not sure what items I come across that I should pick up and what I should just leave either. At one point I was so heavy I had to just drop some items, I'm a hoarder in real life so this will be a problem in the game Is there a certain area I should go towards? Or a map? And what items should I be keeping here at the beginning of the game? I have a bunch of armored suits from the guys in the vault and coffee cups and some glue and also some conductors which I thought would come in really handy since you can make and repair things, but I'm just not sure since this is the first time I have played the game and it is HUGE and they really don't explain much about anything in it for us.

Yes make sure you head straight to Megaton. While you are there look for Moira she is in a building called "Craterside Supply". After you find her concentrate on doing the missions for her "Wasteland Survival Guide".

Anothe key hint is that you can store items in pretty much everything you see and return later to pick them up. You can store them in mail boxes, crates, lockers and many more things. Just remember that area so you can return to store more items.

 

[niky]

Save everything.

I'm a packrat, too... and it's a hindrance in some areas... but as time goes on, you'll find out that almost everything is useful... even stuff that looks like complete junk at first.

What I like to do is identify a container just inside or outside the entrance of a large area or building. Buildings, metro stations and tunnels usually have a garbage can just outside the entrance or a garbage can or locker just inside it. This is where I stash stuff for easy transport and retrieval later.

 

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I went to that school and looked around in it and killed all of the bandit/hobo looking people in there that attacked me, got 300 caps from a woman in a house for telling someone that she wasn't there also. I have picked up everything from toasters and coffee cups to power cells and forks. I didn't know you could store them in mail boxes and all, wont they come up stolen? Or is the game not that involved? I just figured out there was a map on the pip boy device so I made it to megaton and went to craterside supply and started the missions for her, I am now on my way to the old grocery, just have to store all of this stuff first because I am walking at a extremely slow pace.....took me a while to get to megaton walking this slow but I couldn't just throw away all of my loot now could I?!

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

I went to that school and looked around in it and killed all of the bandit/hobo looking people in there that attacked me, got 300 caps from a woman in a house for telling someone that she wasn't there also. I have picked up everything from toasters and coffee cups to power cells and forks. I didn't know you could store them in mail boxes and all, wont they come up stolen? Or is the game not that involved? I just figured out there was a map on the pip boy device so I made it to megaton and went to craterside supply and started the missions for her, I am now on my way to the old grocery, just have to store all of this stuff first because I am walking at a extremely slow pace.....took me a while to get to megaton walking this slow but I couldn't just throw away all of my loot now could I?!

No the items will not disappear or be taken by other people. You can store thousands of items in those things. Just dont throw them in a pile, thats when they will disappear.

Also make sure you use the Vats system when fighting enemies. I believe it is the LB or RB when you see an enemy. Then tap the A button to add the attack points AP. It makes fighting enemies MUCH better since you lock onto the enemy and can focus on individual body parts like head, arms, weapons, legs, and chest. Plus its very rewarding seeing the exploding head shots. Are you using the vats system?

This is what it should look like when you use VATS. http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/307956.html

 

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I'm trying to use the VATS system but I run out of shots to use it before they die. I will have to just aim and fire at them to kill them for several shots. Its pretty ridiculous that several rounds from a 10mm bullet won't kill someone, I'm having to put 10+ rounds in people, which is just silly. How do you get more vats using ability?

 

[niky]

You just level up. Weapon power goes up as you level up, also. Just put points into your weapons levels.

Also note... most of your weapons are in a horrible state of repair at the start of the game, so they don't do much damage.

You can stuff ten tons of junk into a mailbox or a first aid kit... there's no limit to their storage capacity.

Nobody will touch stuff in containers.

If you drop stuff on the ground, it'll disappear over time... if you stuff weapons on bodies or drop them on the ground, other NPCs will loot them. And bodies disappear over time.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

I'm trying to use the VATS system but I run out of shots to use it before they die. I will have to just aim and fire at them to kill them for several shots. Its pretty ridiculous that several rounds from a 10mm bullet won't kill someone, I'm having to put 10+ rounds in people, which is just silly. How do you get more vats using ability?

The more you play the more you will level up the weapons and make them stronger. Your repair will get higher and this will increase the strength of the weapons. Also as you level up you will increase your shooting strength.
This page of the wiki explains the vats. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Action_Points
Also when you level up get the bloody mess perk.

 

[tyl0r_r]

Hey everyone, how has this game held up since release? I am thinking of buying it this week. I love Oblivion and still play it but the dialog system looks better in Fallout. Is this true / can you ever make meaningful decisions? In Oblivion you were basically passive in dialog except for a few special quests.

Also, does the gameplay have a different feel than Oblivion? I like it, but after spending 100 hours in Oblivion I don't want exactly the same thing set in a different time period.

Next: should I go game of the year edition or get the regular one and save money / maybe get the lunchbox and bobblehead edition? (what I mean is how essential is the DLC / how many extra hours would it add roughly?)

THANKS!

 

[Famine]

I'm trying to use the VATS system but I run out of shots to use it before they die. I will have to just aim and fire at them to kill them for several shots. Its pretty ridiculous that several rounds from a 10mm bullet won't kill someone, I'm having to put 10+ rounds in people, which is just silly. How do you get more vats using ability?

VATS is governed by Action Points. To get more shots in VATS you need more Action Points:

Increase Agility (Intensive Training perk): +2 AP
Jet/Ultrajet: +30/40 AP
Some AGL/AP altering clothing: +5 to +25 AP
Action Boy perk (Lv 16): +25 AP

You get more mileage using VATS intelligently. Aim for body parts with a high hit chance (95% is as high as it goes). You should also concentrate your fire on one body part - head is best, but if your hit chance isn't great for heads, aim for legs or arms. Body shots do far less damage per shot. When a body part is crippled (there's a health bar under the hit chance - no bar = crippled), each shot you deliver is more damaging.

Also, use something better than a 10mm. 10mm rounds are only good for shooting Radroaches. You could put a thousand 10mm rounds into a Mirelurk's face at Lv2 for no end result. An Assault rifle will fire three times in one round of VATS, with three rounds each time - 9 rounds - and if delivered to a Feral Ghoul's face will, even at Lv2, put it down.

Take care not to waste VATS either. It's tempting to go into it, put all your VATS into the dude's face and job jobbed. Problem is that, sometimes, the collision detection is squiffy and, if you're near a wall, you can just empty your shots into literally nothing even with a 95% hit chance. Also, you might kill that guy - but what about the one next to him you didn't see?

My guy at Lv30 has all the AP extending perks he can get (along with an Agility of 10) and a great Perk called "Grim Reaper's Sprint" (Lv20) which fully restores all your AP if you kill something in VATS - which means I can be jumped by 15 Feral Ghouls and off them all inside VATS without any of them ever touching me.