Fast after the X1?

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sneakypete123
A real topfuel dragster is faster than this fictional car but then again the top fuel serves one purpose only./
I read once that if a top fueller was staged on the line & launched at the same time a Moto GP bike crossed the start line at 200 mph, the top fueller would cross the 400m line first.
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Exorcet
That's pretty significant. The North American Eagle is basically a F-104 shell with a car underneath. Planes aren't made to go very fast on the ground, and I'm sure that the NAE and SSC would be difficult to fly given wings of any kind. The internal structure is probably very different. Jets are not all engine and the weight and weight balance are extremely important for flying. These rocket cars probably have that all wrong.
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My comment was tongue in cheek. :lol: Aeronautical engineering is very different & done with very lightweight materials.
 
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Giygas
1.Is it possible to create a drivable machine faster than the X1?
- Hard to say.
2.Will the X1 just remain the fastest vehicle in future GT games?
- I think it will.
3.Will it someday have a larger role in GT?
- Yes.
4.What dictates the fastest car in GT is tarmac based? Will we see maybe an x1 equivalent for off road racing?
-I dunno.
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gamerdog6482
I'm not so sure. The ONE was created for a purpose, to see what a human-powered car would look like. The Red Bull X2010/X2011 goes beyond that. I think it's not really an advertising stint.
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They're both advertising stunts based on completely fictional mythos with no basis in reality.

Remember the X11/12 "work" in a computer environment, the same kind of computer environment that for the past few years that the HRT was the best F1 car on the grid & well we all know how that turned out.


gamerdog6482
Think about it, if you wanted to build the fastest car in the world, wouldn't you want the people who made the car that one F1 multiple times to work on it?
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No.
 
Fisha695
They're both advertising stunts based on completely fictional mythos with no basis in reality.
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Not true at all, for the X1 at least. All the technology on it has been seen before. As a technical concept, it makes perfect sense. It's harder to assess the specific details, because all we have is some horsepower, weight, etc figures. Any inaccuracy in the car is as likely to come from GT's physics engine as it is errors in Red Bull's calculations (which I'm sure were simplified in a lot of places).

Remember the X11/12 "work" in a computer environment, the same kind of computer environment that for the past few years that the HRT was the best F1 car on the grid & well we all know how that turned out.
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Also the same computer environment that has predicted tons of subatomic particles, trained pilots and racing drivings, and allowed engineers to design their cars too. Simulations can be wrong, yes, but they can also be very right.
 
@ the OP. Yes it's possible, please don't give Kaz and PD any more stupid ideas!
 
Jav
@ the OP. Yes it's possible, please don't give Kaz and PD any more stupid ideas!
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Hold on. What makes the idea stupid? Formula One and even Le Mans are notorius for stalling progress of faster cars. For example, the Chapperal 2J. That car could have been the next big thing for Le Mans IF they didn't ban it. The Ferrari F10. Also had a major achievement in F1 technology, that would improve the strait-line speeds of all the cars. I am referring the the F-Duct. F1 continues to get slower and slower every year, and I am sure that the 2J could win the 2013 24 Hours of Le Mans if it was brought up to modern spec. Even the Formula Gran Turismo of GT5 is slower than the FGT of GT4. The X project is an amaing project that sees essentially what Formula One could be if it was focused on absolute speed over "history" and "consistency". I fully support the X project, and hope in continues for years to come.
And the next person who calls it an "X1", so help me...
 
gamerdog6482
Hold on. What makes the idea stupid? Formula One and even Le Mans are notorius for stalling progress of faster cars. For example, the Chapperal 2J. That car could have been the next big thing for Le Mans IF they didn't ban it.
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SCCA is the one who banned it. It could've competed in another series or two at the time but the car/concept was going to be retired at the end of its' first season anyway because the mechanical problems that it had far outweighed it's appeal. You ran over a peace of gravel that another car kicked onto the track and it could/would take out the fan thus losing downforce and turning into a pig of a car.



gamerdog6482
The Ferrari F10. Also had a major achievement in F1 technology, that would improve the strait-line speeds of all the cars. I am referring the the F-Duct.
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Actually it was the McLaren MP4-25 & it wasn't banned by the FIA the teams were just told they have to find a different way to do it... None of them did.

Well Mercedes did & runs it currently but it is for the Front-Wing instead of the Rear-Wing and it really only works in Qualifying & the DRS Zone


gamerdog6482
F1 continues to get slower and slower every year
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Speed really has no impact at racing, matter of fact you'll often see better racing in the really low Formula Series where the speed of the cars are often pretty slow.

I forget who it was but a Motorsports Legend once said something along the lines of "Racing is about who can get to a destination first in the slowest time possible".



gamerdog6482
And the next person who calls it an "X1", so help me...
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Technically it is the "X1", the "X1Zero" and the "X1One"
 
The x1zero/one can be bested. Everything's possible, the x1 can be given another turbo, less weight, a reconfigured spoiler with an air brake, active aero like the Pagani Huayra, y'know. Stuff like that.
 
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The x1zero/one can be bested. Everything's possible, the x1 can be given another turbo, less weight, a reconfigured spoiler with an air brake, active aero like the Pagani Huayra, y'know. Stuff like that.
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Even an F-duct.
And it is not an "X1", it's an X2011 or X2010. Get it right.
 
gamerdog6482
Hold on. What makes the idea stupid? Formula One and even Le Mans are notorius for stalling progress of faster cars. For example, the Chapperal 2J. That car could have been the next big thing for Le Mans IF they didn't ban it. The Ferrari F10. Also had a major achievement in F1 technology, that would improve the strait-line speeds of all the cars. I am referring the the F-Duct. F1 continues to get slower and slower every year, and I am sure that the 2J could win the 2013 24 Hours of Le Mans if it was brought up to modern spec. Even the Formula Gran Turismo of GT5 is slower than the FGT of GT4. The X project is an amaing project that sees essentially what Formula One could be if it was focused on absolute speed over "history" and "consistency". I fully support the X project, and hope in continues for years to come.
And the next person who calls it an "X1", so help me...
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Most of your points have already been addressed so I'll just state my oppinion. It is stupid to just make a faster version of a car simply because its performance is based on pure what if? No real world data, no real world application all a product of someone's imagination and while I have no problem with that, it has already been done and 1 is sufficient no need for more. The resources that go into making this thing are better employed on other more relevant and useful areas of the game.
 
Jav
Most of your points have already been addressed so I'll just state my oppinion. It is stupid to just make a faster version of a car simply because its performance is based on pure what if? No real world data, no real world application all a product of someone's imagination and while I have no problem with that, it has already been done and 1 is sufficient no need for more. The resources that go into making this thing are better employed on other more relevant and useful areas of the game.
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Did you come to this thread just to bash the X2010/X2011? Because that's what it seems like. The "resources" that go into making this make PD money, so that is not valid. Honestly, I am still trying to figure out why you continue to bash and bash when all we're trying to do is have a friendly conversation.
 
That is perfectly reasonable, but saying X1 or X2 is not. Also, saying it like X1zero just makes it weird.
 
Jav
No real world data, no real world application
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Except for the 2J/BT46, every F1 car ever, aircraft. The X1 didn't come out of no where. It came out of motorsports, and every bit of it can be traced to real technology.

Real world data is irrelevant, a physics engine is all you need to replicate a real X1. And its components have been validated by their use on real cars. And who is to say how much data Red Bull actually used in making the car.
 
Exorcet
Except for the 2J/BT46, every F1 car ever, aircraft. The X1 didn't come out of no where. It came out of motorsports, and every bit of it can be traced to real technology.

Real world data is irrelevant, a physics engine is all you need to replicate a real X1. And its components have been validated by their use on real cars. And who is to say how much data Red Bull actually used in making the car.
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RB won Formula One multiple times, so they obviously know what they're doing. The X2011 could exist in real life, it's just that there would be nothing to do with it.
 
gamerdog6482
Did you come to this thread just to bash the X2010/X2011? Because that's what it seems like. The "resources" that go into making this make PD money, so that is not valid. Honestly, I am still trying to figure out why you continue to bash and bash when all we're trying to do is have a friendly conversation.
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Bash and bash?? Seriously what are you reading? In fact it is a friendly conversation, are you trying to make it something else? I expressed my oppinion in the matter and never did I bash the X cars. Why are you trying to make this a fight?
Exorcet
Except for the 2J/BT46, every F1 car ever, aircraft. The X1 didn't come out of no where. It came out of motorsports, and every bit of it can be traced to real technology.

Real world data is irrelevant, a physics engine is all you need to replicate a real X1. And its components have been validated by their use on real cars. And who is to say how much data Red Bull actually used in making the car.
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I get what you're saying and like I said it's all based on the "what if" concept. The car isn't Red Bull's creation, it's PD's rendition of A.N's answer to a question proposed to him on an interview. The final product indeed deviates from Newie's original response as A.N's idea featured a gas turbine engine instead of a turbocharged V6.
 
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The X2010 project was a very interesting project. Its still one of my favourite cars in the game, not just because of its sheer speed, but it also looks cool as well. Even after the sheer torture that was getting Gold on the Vettel challenges, I still like the X2010 and X2011.

Imagination and going to limits, is one thing that makes PD so unique from other racing game developers, and I hope PD will continue exploring possibilities that have yet to be discovered
 
SpookyVenom1
The X2010 project was a very interesting project. Its still one of my favourite cars in the game, not just because of its sheer speed, but it also looks cool as well. Even after the sheer torture that was getting Gold on the Vettel challenges, I still like the X2010 and X2011.

Imagination and going to limits, is one thing that makes PD so unique from other racing game developers, and I hope PD will continue exploring possibilities that have yet to be discovered
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I love the X2011's engine sound when running at 15,000 revs. Not as high as the F2007 but still ridiculously high.
 
Idea: What if they took out the fan and put in a turbocharger the size of the fan instead? THAT would boost power.
 
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gamerdog6482
Idea: What if they took out the fan and put in a turbocharger the size of the fan instead? THAT would boost power.
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That would only increase the downforce. But i don't think the air pressure would be enough to make the turbo efficient.
 

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