Originally posted by Killr0y
I'd like to know where the fascination began with little japanese cars being made to look like airplanes. I mean, the ridiculous body kits, the stupid stickers, the 18" rims, the rear wings that look like they were made for a go-kart... Oh, and I can't forget the obnoxious kazoo sounding paint-bucket sized mufflers.

um let me see maybe the fast and the furious? This movie made alot of posers come out and do crap to their cars and I'm SICK AND ****ING TIRED OF TAKING CRAP FROM PEANUT BRAINED PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO CAN'T TAKE A SECOND OUT OF THEIR PATHETIC LIVES TO SIT THERE AND THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE 90% OF CIVICS OUT THERE ARE RICED OUT THAT DOENS'T MEAN ALL OF THEM ARE CRAP....
Now you have me started on this subject because your too narow minded to figure things out for yourself, now I have to explain things to you. First of all Yes I do like Imports but I also like domestics so don't give me that "your just saying that cuz you like imports" crap.
Now not all imports have huge rims, stupid stickers, and huge wings..there are 3 types of cars....1 there are ricers who try to intimidate people by looking fast then trying to race people....2 the people who actually know what the hell they are doing and invest in performance parts and tastefull visual items and 3 the show cars who sure have the body kit and rims but don't go around trying to race people becasue they know it's a show car....
and you act like nobody has seen riced out mustangs...you see em almost as much as civics now...euro lights, airplane wings, vinyl graphics, hell Ive even seen a mustang with a GTR badge on it and japanese writing....
oh yeah real cool...NOTHING like those civics....
Originally posted by Killr0y
Does that stuff really seem cool? I just don't get it. 18" wheels on a car that has 100lb of torque if its lucky? Do people realize the increase of rotational mass an 18" aluminum wheel has compared to a 15"? It will slow you down, not make your car go faster.. and as far as handling goes, those vehicles don't have the performance which would necessitate such a wheel profile.
You apparently dont have a girlfirend or talk to girls much or you would know that when it comes to car's 99.99% of girls/women would prefer a slow car that looks nice vs a fast one that looks like ****.
Also you say that the 15" rims have a lower rotational mass than the 18" rims but on your comparison below you decide to waste money putting rims with a greater rotational mass on the civic?
Originally posted by Killr0y
I've noticed some kids on here talking about a $80k Viper and how their $10k Civic plus $70k would beat the Viper. Well thats not exactly true, and besides, a $10k Civic plus $70k is still a frickin Civic.. and I sure wouldn't be looked at as a "cool" guy for pissin away that much money on a crap car to begin with.

by "some kids" you are referring to me
Now I love the viper and it is a great car but seriously: bull ****ing **** for 70,000 I could get a full tube chassis and put so many mod's on that car you would **** your pants.... for 70,000 I could build a full drag car and hand the viper it's own ass.....I'm not gonna argue with you since you seem to have already made up your mind and you don't really seem to understand what 70,000 can do....
the crap car comment is your own opinion so it doesn;t mean **** to anyone but you.....
sure you wouldnt be a cool guy for dunping all that money into your civic....untill you actually take it to the track then OMG look everyone and their grandmas will wan't to take you on....because you so "uncool" right?
Originally posted by Killr0y
Lets try something a little more realistic:
2003 Mustang GT vs 2003 Honda Civic
oh yeah real realistic....lets see...lets take a high performance car with a V8 from ford and compare it to the cheapest car honda makes and has a 4 cylinder...why not the S2000 buddy? you make yourself feel so much better knowing that your mustang can beat the cheapest import car....THATS something to be real proud of...
Originally posted by Killr0y
To get the Civic's exhaust up to a decent system, we'll need about $1000 for parts and labor. No, fart tip exhaust doesn't count. $1000 is being on the cheap side too. Its still single exhaust (dual exhaust on an I4 is just stupid) and its only going to provide for about 10hp more power (and thats being extremely generous). This price includes all new exhaust from the header on back.
oh wow you are dumb...lets see...lets pay 1000 dollars for an exhaust and pay someone to put it on for us becasue were to stupid to find a muffler shop that can weld the thing for 30 bucks....and what the hell muffler are you buying? You could buy a full HKS exhaust system for 600 bucks and HKS is one of if not the best tuner in the world....
Originally posted by Killr0y
Lets assume we spent a week with our Civic laid up in the garage and put the blower in ourselves. We are still about $500 over budget and we still need some wheels to handle all this new power...
wow you are slow...a whole week to put in a supercharger when you could put a turbo kit in yourself taking up 2 days max...actually I think the SC would take less time than the turbo...
and no we dont need new wheels...all we NEED are new tires...there you go wasting money...
Originally posted by Killr0y
The V8 engine is much better at dissipating heat and could probably handle another 4psi of boost safely, but we don't need to go there...
no **** sherlock...it also has four extra cylinders which is WHY it can handle another 4 psi....and that aint ****....ther are street legal nissan skylines running 50 psi of boost and putting out 1360 HP how may stangs can do that? also how many stangs have you seen that can run 8's on street tires? well lets see I haven heard of any...but there are skylines that do that....holy **** who would have thought that a "crappy" import could do such things....hell Vince a.k.a RazorGTR a member of these forums has a skyline GTR and it would kill your mustang and he only payed about 14,000 for his and all he has is an exhaust, re chipped ecu, and a bigger intercooler...WAY under your 23,000 mustang....and the skyline has an inline 6....but you don't care cause all imports are crappy...
Originally posted by Killr0y
or a throaty V8 Mustang that sounds as evil as it looks.
the way a car looks and sounds doesn't mean **** to anyone who really cars about cars...it's all performance...hell I could drive a ugly ass Geo metro and run 10's and people would apreciate it because of the performance...
Originally posted by Killr0y
I probably won't be coming back to read this thread anyway
good now I don't have to listen to your pathetic whining and lousy excuses

while your at it why not leave GTP and give us all a break from your bull ****.