[FPV]RustyHe ruined it for himself last year when before one race weekend he said that Jaguar always gave better equipment to Webber and that he was better, then Webber went and bet him in the race when Webber was in a Jag & Pizzonia was in a William's. Trying to pursuade Williams he was better & then it backfired big time
786ya supposedly Pizzonia and Webber dont like each other at all...i have no doubt Webber had a hand in Heidfeld getting the seat instead of Pizzonia...but so far it seems to have backfired for Webber![]()
liam2mapsHow so. So far it's 3-0 to Webber.
Melb 1-0: He was definately better at Melbourne and was on for a podium until half way through and then he started to drop off (slowly) while heidlfield was battling Michael.
Malaysia 2-0: Webber was on for a podium until Fisi closed his eyes and hoped for the best. It's fair to say Nick got the position Mark deserved that day due to Fisi. Remember Nick had a NEW engine that day while the others were running on their 2nd.
Bahrain 3-0: This was probably the closest Nick has been. His engine would have been significantly weaker due to running in Malaysia but if we factor that in he's close but not better. Mark was doing well and on for another podium until a mistake from him. As a result his pace dropped off due to the tyres and all.
Yeah so 3-0. I expect someone to argue against me![]()
786i can understand trying to defend a driver you like but 3-0 webber?...lets not be ridiculous...im not comparing driving styles here, all im saying is Heidfeld has been at the very least the equal of Webber so far and Heidfeld has a podium to his name whereas Webber prefers spinning off...and i dont think its fair to say Heidfeld got the podium Webber deserved...he had a racing incident with Fisi, how does that diminish Heidfelds performance?...i dont care how much of a Webber fan you are he hasnt come flying out of the gates like everyone expected...in my opinion all he needs is a podium and his confidence level will grow off of that and we may see him regularly...but personally im hoping Heidfeld shows him up and gets more podiums this year...he is vastly underrated and after being stuck with all those mid to low field teams i think its about time he got some success...
liam2mapsI ain't the one being ridiculous here. Let's compare them on an even field. Webber was outpacing Heidfield in Malaysia. Yes Heidfield got the podium, BUT if Fisi didn't take out Webber would Webber have got it. In my mind YES. He was charging through. Futhermore insulting Webber with the spinning off comment >_>
You were saying something about diminishing Heidfields performance. I didn't say that. It doesn't diminish his performance. But if Fisi didn't take Mark out no doubt that the podium was his. I noticed you like to post something that disagrees with me and fair enough. I don't care how much of a Heidfield fan you are either. I honestly hope though that Mark continues to outperform Nick like he has done this season.
Let's not forget Heidfield has had more experience in F1 than Mark. Better teams. PLUS he has had more financial backing. Personally I prefer Jenson over Webber but I strongly believe he has outplayed his team mate this year. So are you going to continue this or is it settled.
786look webber has been riding that 5th in melbourne for some time now...hes a good driver, he just needs to get some strong finishes and he will gain confidence and get results...i like heidfelds driving style...i think hes underrated and im happy hes doing well this season...i dont think heidfeld has been on better teams than webber as you state and i think they both seem to be evenly matched...i really started to dislike button after the whole buttongate saga last year and after reading his ridiculous book but i wont get into that...
786yes yes thats great...
and dont tell me to "chill"...im not the one getting heated over this issue...
and fyi button wasnt trying to switch for more money...
liam2mapsWell it seemed like it. You always had to get the last word in didn't ya? Regardless if Frank Williams offered more moneywise/carwise I would have taken it. No disrespect to Honda (I supported them last year and even bought some BAR Merch).
786yes i always have to get the last word in...
button wanted to move to williams because he thought it was a better team regardless of money...he was right and if he would have asked me i would have told him to switch...its just the way he went about it made him look very foolish...he followed the advice of his attorney byfield...byfield was a complete idiot and i dont know how that man practices law...anyway honda is doing very poorly this year so i have no doubt that he will switch to williams for 2006...mind you, if they had been doing well he would get stuck at BAR...
liam2mapsNot letting you get the last word in here. Obviously Button wanted to switch to a better team but also sponsorship and other factors would help contribute to the swtich. I love Honda with all my heart but I knew Honda would go down hill this season. They didn't concentrate on the new regulations like Renault did. Renault made the smarter choice. Their sacrifice is starting to pay off.
786actually honda keeps trying to make a motor that will break 1000HP (and they want to be faster than ferrari) but the problem is they cant make that 1000HP reliably yet...they have the speed, as proven by their setting the new lap record at barcelona in testing, but they do not have that speed reliably...yet...
786where are you getting your info?...regulations wont be changing soon...
they will remain the same until 2007...theres even a thread about it on this forum...
786well about the only thing right in your post was that im young (21)...
and once again thank you for stating the obvious...
786you know your right, i should show some mercy and let you off the hook this thread...maybe this will teach you not to try and pick fights on the internet![]()