Felino cB7. New Canadian V8 supercar.

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Looks like a full-bodied Lotus 7 kind of thing, not unlike the Gillet Vertigo of GT3/GT4 fame.

The vertigo looked a lot better though;

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Having seen it in the flesh at the Montreal Auto Show last weekend, it's even worse in person than in pictures. It looks like a poorly made kit-car, and the one on display did not even have an interior. This is pretty much a pipedream that'll never get anywhere.
 
Whilst it's not the worst car I've ever seen, I don't think I'll ever understand why so many new automotive start-ups offer horribly designed models. It doesn't take much to find a good designer, and the extra costs involved in manufacturing the car to comply with a more pleasing aesthetic, after liasing with the engineer team, will more than be made up for via increased positive reception and sales.

Pagani is the only brand I can think of that is both recent and still managed to create an attractive production silhouette. Their success, I think, cannot be wholly divorced from the sexiness of their design efforts. That's something newcomers inexplicably fail to grasp.
 
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Whilst it's not the worst car I've ever seen, I don't think I'll ever understand why so many new automotive start-ups offer horribly designed models. It doesn't take much to find a good designer, and the extra costs involved in manufacturing the car to comply with a more pleasing aesthetic, after liasing with the engineer team, will more than be made up for via increased positive reception and sales.

Pagani is the only brand I can think of that is both recent and still managed to create an attractive production silhouette. Their success, I think, cannot be wholly divorced from the sexiness of their design efforts. That's something newcomers inexplicably fail to grasp.
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I would argue good designers are not really attainable for most start-ups. They typically try to design it themselves, which is why the results are often so poor.

Pagani was a different story all together. Horacio Pagani is something of a prodigy; immensely talented in disciplines of engineering, material science, and design, while at the same time being a visionary. I don't think even Enzo Ferrari was as talented in such a diverse array of activities.
 
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I would argue good designers are not really attainable for most start-ups. They typically try to design it themselves, which is why the results are often so poor.

Pagani was a different story all together. Horacio Pagani is something of a prodigy; immensely talented in disciplines of engineering, material science, and design, while at the same time being a visionary. I don't think even Enzo Ferrari was as talented in such a diverse array of activities.
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The thing is that I have seen plenty of young, highly-talented designers lurking among car forums. On both this site, Jalopnik, Worldcarfans and others there are often excellent renders submitted by members which are not so outlandish that they couldn't be made into production. These same members, ostensibly without much recognition, doubtful would be charging too much (indeed, most automotive designers don't attract large salaries). It's like building a large house without an architect; a shortcut that will only end in tears.
 
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The thing is that I have seen plenty of young, highly-talented designers lurking among car forums. On both this site, Jalopnik, Worldcarfans and others there are often excellent renders submitted by members which are not so outlandish that they couldn't be made into production. These same members, ostensibly without much recognition, doubtful would be charging too much (indeed, most automotive designers don't attract large salaries). It's like building a large house without an architect; a shortcut that will only end in tears.
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I am an architect, so I appreciate the analogy. However, I also understand that much like architecture, automotive design requires more than just the ability to render something that looks 'pretty.' You need a comprehensive and deep material understanding of how the thing works, and how to build it. If you don't have both, then it will always follow that the engineersr/fabricators will screw up the design if not disregard it all together. The designers that do have this knowledge will not come cheap.
 
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I am an architect, so I appreciate the analogy. However, I also understand that much like architecture, automotive design requires more than just the ability to render something that looks 'pretty.' You need a comprehensive and deep material understanding of how the thing works, and how to build it. If you don't have both, then it will always follow that the engineersr/fabricators will screw up the design if not disregard it all together. The designers that do have this knowledge will not come cheap.
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Indeed, a respect for the materials used by the designer in his interpretation of the piece is wholly important. However, I thought that this skill, honed to a reasonable degree, is something that would be common to any graduate designer? And in any case sufficient, if management is worth its salt and capable of ensuring that the engineering and design teams are interacting adequately so that both sides of the tangible product are successfully met? It seems automotive design schools need 'retuning', then.*

*I make no mention of architecture school, knowing full well its difficulty from colleagues. :p
 
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Indeed, a respect for the materials used by the designer in his interpretation of the piece is wholly important. However, I thought that this skill, honed to a reasonable degree, is something that would be common to any graduate designer? And in any case sufficient, if management is worth its salt and capable of ensuring that the engineering and design teams are interacting adequately so that both sides of the tangible product are successfully met? It seems automotive design schools need 'retuning', then.
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It seemed before that you were indicating that these 'online' people here and on Jalopnik were pure amateurs, with no design education, playing with photoshop. If they are students, or especially graduate students in automotive design, it could ostensibly work. I must admit, I'm not exactly sure what goes on in automotive design school.

I'd actually like to see some of these posters/members if you have links.
 
I cannot say whether or not they were amateurs or professionals, though the comprehensiveness of their designs oft suggested the latter. My favourite was a render of the Huracan a while back (but in all my digging I cannot find it). In any case, a good place for an auto startup to begin would be http://forums.cardesignnews.com/. From what I can see, there is a lot of emerging qualified talent there who I'm sure wouldn't sneer at the chance to design a car, unadulterated by any previous brand style.
 
Private supercar company shows crazy looking concept, claims figures and then nothing happens. Again. Next.
 
what if the reason Canadians aren't that mean, is because all the mean parts of Canadians were put into the front end of that car?

Seriously, why put a bad face on Canadians in the motor industry with that car :yuck:
 
I saw this on Facebook and said that I'd rather have the Morgan Aero 8 over this piece of crap. Unfortunately, Facebook was saying that my post was spammy or something. Should have thought about that s:censored: when people post about weight loss products or shady financial deals. Okay, rant over and back on topic... this junk is ugly. Good news is that this is a nice chance for Canada to enter the supercar realm (or was there some other Candian supercar in the past?). Bad news is... a much better machine could have been made.
 

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