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So the championship winning car is the one with the most beautiful nose?
Ferrari F14T
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Found a pic of their engine on the site.
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It's only a feeling, mate. I saw the reveal of most of the cars last year, and also had a feeling that RBR would triumph after seeing their car.
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Yes, that 'feeling'... after seeing Red Bull dominate for the previous three years.
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This is awful, but at the same time intresting. It's interesting to see different teams getting different approaches.
I bet you they'll go a nose à la McLaren. But we'll have to wait and see.
I bet you they'll go a nose à la McLaren. But we'll have to wait and see.
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With all due respect, I think Ferrari have more aero knowledge than you on this. They don't just design cars for fun.
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Why's that? It shows he's behind Adrian Newey. There are lots of great designers in F1 history. Ferrari were succesful once, but their recent cars haven't been the greatest in the design department, and that's a fact.
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Well I think most F1 cars are ugly and this is too? It matters not one bit though. What matters is whether or not it's fast, and reliable.
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Naturaly. Let's wait and see at the end of the championship which team will be the winner.
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While I don't think this is as hideous as the McLaren and the Lotus, it's certainly not a looker.
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It shows when he is in Formula One he is capable of beating Newey. He was also with Benetton when they beat the Newey designed Williams FW16, not just Ferrari. Anyway it will be exciting to see what happens this year.
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I think you don't understand, Rory Byrne was in charge of those "successful" Ferrari, Tombazis was in charge of the most recent cars. He is behind Newey because he retired and came out of retirement this year. Considering Newey was chief 7-8 years after the last fully designed Byrne car and Byrne is still sharp since he was used as someone they could consolidate with, this car has better chance than recent years.
It has been in development much longer than the RBR supposedly and the only other car to have as much if not more is the Mercedes. Obviously you don't know the history as well as you might think.
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Ok, I agree. But he wasn't alone in Ferrari those years. Ferrari had Todt, Brawn, and a lot of competent professionals. While Ferrari have competent folk this year, they're not on the same level as it was then. Pit work of Ferrari was a complete joke last year, for instance. If they manage to fix these little details, they can be more succesful this year.It shows when he is in Formula One he is capable of beating Newey. He was also with Benetton when they beat the Newey designed Williams FW16, not just Ferrari. Anyway it will be exciting to see what happens this year.
Learning is always nice, right? That's what discussions are for.
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Well when you throw Newey as the end all end all to an argument when people are trying to discuss with you... Then you're not trying very hard to learn. But if that's your style more power to you.
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I've only thrown Newey in the discussion when someone stated fiercely that Ferrari had a lot more knowlegde than me in aerodynamics.
But this thread is about Ferrari F14T's release. I still don't trust the car, for me Mclaren's MP4/29 will be more succesful this year. But that's only my OPINION, not an affirmation.
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Yes, I 'fiercely' stated that they have spent a lot more time researching aerodynamics on this car than you have. Put it this way - they know what they're doing.
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Not only does Ferrari have Rory, but also James Allison who was pretty much the only reason Lotus did as well as they did last year, he will be able to develop that Ferrari fiercely!
And not only that, but RBR's lost key personnel to McLaren. I think they have a great chance as long as their engine's reliable enough, more than others. But you know how Ferrari gets in the engine department - they tend to overdo things.
And not only that, but RBR's lost key personnel to McLaren. I think they have a great chance as long as their engine's reliable enough, more than others. But you know how Ferrari gets in the engine department - they tend to overdo things.
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Well, ask yourself this: Do you think Button and Magnussen will do better than Alonso and Raikkonen?
Exactly.
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It's not about that, it's how good the cars are. Doesn't matter if you've got fast drivers, if the car is bad you're going nowhere.
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Yeah, or the other deadly combo of Rosberg and Hamilton. And even though people don't want to admit it -even I struggle to- Sebastian as well. I don't think Button is going to be able to work well with the constant changes this season is going to create in car development, and he's quite the sensitive driver. Kevin I can't comment on but he is being hailed as the next Messiah and McLaren tend to be good at picking next great up and coming drivers.
And there is this too, to an extent since bad cars may finish higher if the great cars have mechanical issues
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You don't think Button is world class? That's the first time i've ever heard that. And everyone who refers to Italy 2008, one word - FLUKE. I don't consider Vettel to be any greater a driver than any of the other top teams' drivers.
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Because he won a World Championship and many other races?
