Ferrari Testarossa

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M5Power
And seriously now that you can have a decent 355 for TR money, why would anyone go for the TR?
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Because of two things:

Ferrari heart = Engine
V12 > V8

Also, have you not noticed this phenomenon called '80s nostalgia'?
 
M5Power
365 GT4 2+2
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412
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The same thing in all but the smallest of details.

M5Power
Before you go crying to your mother about the 355 and 456 be advised there are several on eBay currently with buy-it-nows under $65k.
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Yup, my boss sold his 456 about 6 months back for less then the price of most Testarossas on Autotrader.
 
GilesGuthrie
Because of two things:

Ferrari heart = Engine
V12 > V8
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Yeah... except the Testarossa doesn't have a V12, does it?

Either way I mentioned several Ferraris with V12s that you can have that are both faster AND more reliable AND more usable. I'll buy a TR if I want my differential to fail and pay $15k for the replacement and ensuing engine-out service. I'll buy a late model 355 for slightly more cash if I want zillions of miles of awesome trouble-free motoring or a well-sorted early one for less money and the same deal.
 
M5Power
Yeah... except the Testarossa doesn't have a V12, does it?

Either way I mentioned several Ferraris with V12s that you can have that are both faster AND more reliable AND more usable. I'll buy a TR if I want my differential to fail and pay $15k for the replacement and ensuing engine-out service. I'll buy a late model 355 for slightly more cash if I want zillions of miles of awesome trouble-free motoring or a well-sorted early one for less money and the same deal.
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The Testarossa is a Boxer 12.

The 355 is the far superior car in nearly every aspect.
 
F40 does it for me. Love how you can see the heritage from the 288 GTO in the lines.. Absolutely stunning...

[Edit:] And should I add - Purposeful !....

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The Testarossa is a Flat 12 as far as I know. And also as far as I'm concerned, it is the nicest sounding engine/car I have ever heard on the road. However, I am quite biased since it is my favorite car and part of the reason for that is the sound it puts out.
 
I find this one beautiful I don't know about you guys...

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And I didn't really see much of the F430 but I love how it looks...love it
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Never liked the look of the F50 when it first came out. It's starting to grow on me now, although the front end styling will never look anything other than unresolved.
 
355 for me. I've sat in Testarossa, and let's just say that it wasn't what I expected. gearbox and clutch were really heavy to use, and that gearbox would definitely cause problems to me until I'd learn that weird pattern..
 
M5Power
aka flat 12

It ain't no V-12.
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It's technically a 180 degree V12 because it isn't a boxer engine -- opposing pistons share crank pins. I think you could still call it a flat-12, though.
 
M5Power
aka flat 12

It ain't no V-12.
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The engine in the Testarossa is not a Boxer-12 and it is not an H-12 or HO-12 (because those are both just different names for boxer engines). If the engine is not a Boxer engine but it is flat, than it is a V12 with a 180 degree crankpin; because the definition of a V engine is based on crank pin design, not appearance.
The flat 12 in the Testarossa and the 512BB was the exact same engine as the one in the 412 Automatic (likewise, the one in the 365 GT4/BB was the same engine that was in the Daytona). They simply flattened the cylinder banks to lower the center of gravity (then for some reason mounted it above the transmission to completely null the advantages). Ferrari even called it a 180 degree V12, I believe.
 
Delirious?
I find this one beautiful I don't know about you guys...

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And I didn't really see much of the F430 but I love how it looks...love it
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+1 Del. I fell in love with it when I saw the Azzuro California one before its respray.
 
Toronado
The engine in the Testarossa is not a Boxer-12 and it is not an H-12 or HO-12 (because those are both just different names for boxer engines). If the engine is not a Boxer engine but it is flat, than it is a V12 with a 180 degree crankpin; because the definition of a V engine is based on crank pin design, not appearance.
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...But still, if it's not less than 180 degrees then it's not a "V", is it? :sly: I'd be calling it a flat 12, even if, like you said, it's a 180 degree V. Just for the sake of simplicity.

Re: The F50 - yes. I do like it, and always have since it was released. I always thought the press were mad criticising it. Not least because it's not often Ferrari produce a genuinely pretty car nowadays so they couldn't really single the F50 out. Plus, after an issue of Evo from a few years back proclaimed it the best Ferrari supercar (having tested it back to back with the Enzo, F40 and 288 GTO), I have a more rounded view on it now, as well as liking the styling.

Looks best with the hard top in place:

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And to my knowledge, it's the rarest of the Ferrari supercars too. I've only ever seen two - one at a car museum in the south of France, and the other in the supercar enclosure at the Brit motor show earlier this year.
 
homeforsummer
...But still, if it's not less than 180 degrees then it's not a "V", is it? :sly: I'd be calling it a flat 12, even if, like you said, it's a 180 degree V. Just for the sake of simplicity.
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I agree with this. And most of the time I would call it a flat 12. But asserting that it isn't a V12 because of its cylinder bank angle is incorrect, as a flat 12 as seen in the Testarossa is simply a type of V12.
 
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Even if it may be something of a concept...

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And a shame this isn't road legal to my knowledge...

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exigeracer
Ferrari themselves called it a Boxer in the 512BB's name. I think it's acceptable to use the term if they do.
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Mercedes calls it a "6.3 AMG," Ford called it a "5.0," and BMW called it a "Z3 2.3i." Doesn't mean any of that stuff was true.
 
Delirious?
Even if it may be something of a concept...
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The P4/5 was never meant to be a concept, but it a 1-off.
And a shame this isn't road legal to my knowledge...
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Edo Comp. actually made a road-legal FXX (or so far, it's assumed to be road-legal). Ferrari, on the other hand, was not happy with the owner of the FXX.
 

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