First Car

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Rare in that it's rare to find one that isn't a rotting pile of rust, already? :lol: Those SE-R engines are strong as bricks, and, being aluminum turbo-ready blocks with timing chains, should last forever, but the bodies won't.
 
Rare in that it's rare to find one that isn't a rotting pile of rust, already? :lol: Those SE-R engines are strong as bricks, and, being aluminum turbo-ready blocks with timing chains, should last forever, but the bodies won't.

I've seen several clean B13 Sentra SE-Rs around here, and we treat our roads with salt/de-icer.
 
Something rear wheel drive.

As FR's are Amazing cars and can be absoutly great fun, both on and off the track, both drifting and on the stickies, Sometimes a FR isnt the best "First Car" You may really not have a concept to real driving for awile, and I've seen this happen. I have a buddy who bought a old chevy truck, he spins his tires almost everytime he doesnt have great traction, he cant seem to get the whole idea of paying attencion to these kinda things down to fast. I myself have driven his truck 4 or 5 times, have not had a problem. Its a stick too... I'm saying buy an FF, if you have the money later, buy a FR to play with.
 
Granted with the weather around here, good driving techniques won't always help in a FWD or RWD!
 
Uhm, while we're at it....
Geo Prizm? That's the Toyota Corolla rebadge, not the Suzuki 3-cyl crapbox Geo seems to be known for...
 
As FR's are Amazing cars and can be absoutly great fun, both on and off the track, both drifting and on the stickies, Sometimes a FR isnt the best "First Car" You may really not have a concept to real driving for awile, and I've seen this happen. I have a buddy who bought a old chevy truck, he spins his tires almost everytime he doesnt have great traction, he cant seem to get the whole idea of paying attencion to these kinda things down to fast. I myself have driven his truck 4 or 5 times, have not had a problem. Its a stick too... I'm saying buy an FF, if you have the money later, buy a FR to play with.

So if you didn't have a problem driving a rwd vehicle, what makes you think the OP will? Perhaps your friend isn't that into driving, so he has no desire to learn what he is doing and improve his driving skills.

Since we are on a forum based around a driving video game, I would figure most of us enjoy driving. And most of us would pay attention to what we are doing and try to learn from it. IMO, a rwd vehicle is and excellent choice to learn to drive in.

Why does everyone seem to be so against a first time driver getting a rwd car? Is it the fear that they will wreck it? Are there actual numbers saying more first time drivers wreck rwd cars than fwd, or do people just assume these things? -- I would really like to know about this, anyone good at finding that kind of information?

If you obey the law, drive the speed limit, and don't drive like an idiot then you should have no problems. Bad weather? Drive slower, be more cautious, invest in some good snow tires. If anything, driving a fwd or awd in bad conditions gives people the idea that they have more control, so what do they do? Drive faster, little do they know when it comes time to brake it's just like any other vehicle, and off the road they go. Of course to my knowledge those are just theories, but if you think about it, it makes sense. I had little problems driving my mr2 in the winter weather, and that was with old dry rotted tires.

Don't forget that here in the US fwd didn't start getting big till the late 70's, so most of these people were driving rwd.

It's really doesn't take that much more to properly learn how to drive a rwd vehicle. Here's what I say, if you a willing to be smart about it and educate yourself (which we all should do no matter what vehicle we are driving) then don't hesitate to get a rear wheel drive car.
 
Why does everyone seem to be so against a first time driver getting a rwd car? Is it the fear that they will wreck it? Are there actual numbers saying more first time drivers wreck rwd cars than fwd, or do people just assume these things? -- I would really like to know about this, anyone good at finding that kind of information?

At that age, responsibility, rationality and hell, just the money to properly own and maintain a RWD car under most circumstances is a hard thing to come by. Certainly, there are always exceptions to any rule, however, based on our own collective expiriences, we would generally be in agreement that a nicely kept FWD car would be a good place to start... and to learn. Think back to the kids you went to high school with, the kind of cars they drove, and the shenanigans that normally came out of that... There is a pretty prime example of why we don't suggest RWD performance cars to start. Then think back to how much your insurance was then, PLPD or not. Its only magnified with a RWD car.

But hey, what do we know? We're just a bunch of old folks posting on an internet forum...
 
Personally, it's not so much that RWD is a bad idea for a first-time driver as getting anything nice is a bad idea for a first-time driver.

I've been young. I've done shenanigans. Being in a car that has one less handling quirk to think about helps keep you alive throughout these shenanigans.

FWD will do you good. It's (relatively) stable in slippery conditions, jamming the brakes will not cause snap-oversteer (just less understeer) as long as you have ABS, and jamming on the gas will not catapult you into the next lane (it'll try, though).

It'll be cheaper to insure, maintain and drive a good FWD car compared to a RWD car of the same age, too.

There's a good reason racing schools have front-drive compacts as the very bottom of their totem poles. They're cheap to run, they're predictable and difficult for the students to crash, and... they're cheap to run. :lol:

I've seen several clean B13 Sentra SE-Rs around here, and we treat our roads with salt/de-icer.

Envy.
 

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