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Might have an effect on DC, not likely to effect lap time results. I going to think on this longer.
@JujiroMatsuda @biffa3 thanks for getting back to me.
@JujiroMatsuda @biffa3 thanks for getting back to me.
@backnfourth @biffa3 @jules283 @JujiroMatsuda Can you please tell me if you tested @xande1959 MiTo at 115 or 116 front ride height? Rules were for only a 15 point difference and it is listed at 16. Somehow we all missed this.
@DigitalBaka @Motor City Hami suggestions on whether or not to retest or disallow the tune. I think it could be a typo but somehow it was overlooked.
No. Minimal difference.
I find it real hard to believe 1 number will make a difference, just wanted a general consensus on the issue. I will either try it myself later if I have time or will just let it ride since we all missed it.Agreed with everyone above. A difference of 1 will (should?) have little impact on feel or laptime unless this is a super secret sweet spot on the car. If it is still bugging you give it a try yourself and make the determination then, but I don't see that we need to worry about it.
True but I think 1 lower, i.e. 115 instead of 116, would likely be the better setting for this car. I wanna try it myself and see.Depends on what number it is ARB, damper are now can make a difference on a car handling with just 1 value change. Spring rate change as little as 0.10kg/mm can also gives distinct change to handling balance on a well built/tuned car ( my Gallardo GT3-R for example ). For ride height, from my experience, I can feel a difference with just 2mm change on well tuned car.
- Thanks biffa3Results for Hot Hatch Series.
All cars tested for 10 minutes (6 full laps) with a DS3 (pad, rather than stick). All aids off except driving line and ABS 1, with auto transmission.
A real mixed bag of cars in my hands. Some I thought would be quick, weren't, and some I expected to struggle with, I didn't. Well done to all tuners who entered this catagory. I think that this is a track where the tune has to match up with the driver, more than i've noticed on any other track.
@backnfourth - Golf V GTi '05
Time - 1:40:235
DC - 6
A fair bit of understeer for me here, and I struggled to get it into the corner when I wanted. Maybe didn't give myself enough time to adjust to track or tune.
@Bobby Steel - Golf IV GTi '01
Time - 1:42:915
DC - 4
Struggled to get the car through the corners, struggled on exit too.
@Bowtie-muscle - Scirocco R '10
Time - 1:39:510
DC - 7.5
Turn in bordering on oversteer here, but it does give you confidence to brake late and get on the power early, because you know it's going to get through the corner.
@brian wolf - Ibiza Cupra '04
Time - 1:39:972
DC - 7
Was quick enough but unstable under braking. Couldn't really predict what it would do on turn in. The slightest touch of the steering had the potential to send it into a 4 wheel drift.
@DigitalBaka - Scirocco R '10
Time - 1:39:747
DC - 7.5
Benefits from braking early and powering out of the turn. If you brake late or miss the apex you've lost the corner. Hit your lines though and it's quick enough.
@DolHaus - C30 R-Design '09
Time - 1:41:168
DC - 8
Predictable and good turn in. Good rotation and easy to get on the power through exit. Pretty much does exactly what you want it to.
@Motor City Hami - Scirocco R '10
Time - 1:39:168
DC - 8.5
Nice and tight this one. A little bit of understeer if you don't exit the corner correctly. Some wheelspin when the auto gearbox dropped too low (mainly through my mistakes). When you hit your lines drives like a dream.
@oppositelock - Clio R.S. '11
Time - 1:39:189
DC - 10
Great little car to drive. Good turn in and rotation. Can brake late with confidence. Gearing suited auto transmission. Good effort, bravo sir.
@Otaliema - Scirocco R '10
Time - 1:38:537
DC - 9
A little bit looser and more room for errors than the other Scirocco's on test. Seemed to suit my driving style well. Good under braking and easy to get through the corners. Well done.
@Ridox2JZGTE - Ibiza Cupra '04
Time - 1:40:351
DC - 7.5
Nice, easy car to drive. Nice and steady the order of the day. Doesn't like late braking but has good turn in and rotation at the right speed.
@shaunm80 - Mini Cooper S '11
Time - 1:41:171
DC - 7
Slow in, fast out the order of the day. No room for late braking, with a bit of understeer present. Lacked the pace of the other quicker entries.
@Woodski_427 - Ibiza Cupra '04
Time - 1:40:252
DC - 7
Nice tight tune although you'll have to watch your entry speed as it likes to push wide and you won't recover it. Was 0.4 up on the last lap but went too deep into the last corner and messed up, apologies.
@xande1959 - Clio R.S. '11
Time - 1:38:637
DC - 9.5
No idea where this lap came from!! Good turn in, good rotation, good speed through the corner. A little bit of understeer on corner exit, but easy to counter. Hit a 1:39:100 on the 1st lap, so was easy to adjust to. Good effort, well done.
- Thanks DaBomm4Testing for the Spec MiTo Class.
Tested on DS3 with all aids off except ABS = 1.
General note, it seems that higher front brake balance was a main issue in my results. Over all, these cars were definitely interesting to drive.
@brian wolf
Best Time: 1:35.604
DC: 6
Comments: The car is too loose for my liking, it throws itself across the track a lot. It is very fast if you can keep it tamed through the corners though.
@DaBomm4
Best Time: 1:35.160
DC: 8
Comments: I think if the brake balance were better, you could go faster.
@donpost
Best Time: 1:34.785
DC: 8
Comments: The car feels good and listens well also. The brakes seem a little too strong on the front though.
@jules283
Best Time: 1:35.524
DC: 7.5
Comments: There is a little more understeer but it is still very fast and consistent.
@krenkme
Best Time: 1:34.817
DC: 9
Comments: This car handles very well. Are you sure this is a FF car?
@Ridox2JZGTE
Best Time: 1:36.248
DC: 7
Comments: I could feel that the car has a heavy and slow front, this made most corner entries slower which is where I feel made this car so slow. It was very accurate once I got the hang of the front end.
@shaunm80
Best Time: 1:35.154
DC: 8
Comments: The front brakes seem to be too strong but otherwise the car felt good.
@xande1959
Best Time: 1:35.155
DC: 8
Comments: The front brakes seem to be too strong also. The car felt fast though.
@787bcgr
Best Time: 1:36.465
DC: 7
Comments: The front has a little too much understeer still. It has good acceleration and handles well once I understood the understeer.
Thank you sir, that's quite the complement. I learned allot from your tunes and @praiano63 tunes, and the guides from both of you.
This is up to a few people who may be working on hosting another event, or if @DigitalBaka was thinking about doing another seasonal related challenge. To keep track, I'd follow the main FITT thread.Do we have a bit of break before the next competition or are you planning to do something in the next few weeks?
Thanks. Will keep an eye out. Be nice to have a weeks break personally as I have an exam next wednesday so head to the books timeThis is up to a few people who may be working on hosting another event, or if @DigitalBaka was thinking about doing another seasonal related challenge. To keep track, I'd follow the main FITT thread.