Indeed.. Wait... what? Your inclination is based on some fairly poor methodology. You clearly see that I have only completed 1 Time-Trial using clutch in nearly 3 years of playing GT5 (which I am kinda shocked that I even did that much!), and are somehow able to use that 'parameter' to judge the worthiness of my very simple statement concerning the well-known steps of clutch use in GT? Maybe you mistook my calling him bro as condescending? I definitely did not mean it that way. Instead of all that work of digging into my records, you could've just replied here or PM'ed me asking, "are you calling mrbasher out here, bro?" It's clear that you are very proud of your achievements, but I hope, for your sake, that you're not looking for fullfillment or validation from others concerning these endeavors. That would be a long road to nowhere.. Ok, so what should our goal be here in this thread. To convince everyone that they just need to 'adapt' and 'make it work'? How does this attitude help the new guys/future GTers? I and many others believe that PD should adjust the darn thing so everyone will benefit, from Pro race drivers to the young tikes trying GT out for the first time. I think some of you guys really have trouble with that perspective- from the newcomer's POV. We, and especially PD, should be ultra-concerned about the viewpoint of new and future players. Right now a new player tries to use the clutch and basically runs into a brick wall. Being well-adapted to an ill requirement is no measure of health. . No. These guys are well aware that such adjustments do nothing for the throttle lock-out, which is the absolute crux of the problem with GT gated shifting, followed closely by the Neutral selection that can't be corrected by a quick clutch-dip. These two aspects are far from realistic, super frustrating, and the cause of over 200 posts in this single thread.