Ford EcoBoost: It Will be EcoBoost, All the Way Down

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Are these only going to be V engines? I'd really like to see Ford make some ballin 1000hp-potential engines.
 
There'll be a (WRC-esque?) 2.0L inline four, but no-one's sure what the engines will do. it is possible to have a 1000+HP V6...look at the Buick Grand National.
 
The 2.0L should be replacing V6s under most circumstances, the 3.5L replacing the V8s otherwise. As a matter of fact, looks like Ford is considering throwing it in the Mustang too:

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Motor Authority is reporting that the 2010 Mustang could feature a twin-turbo EcoBoost V6 with up to 415bhp. Ford is apparently rushing the engine's development in order to meet the new CAFE fuel economy standards. They go on to report that the EcoBoost engine will be offered alongside a new 5.0L V8. We like the prospect of a turbo-charged V6 with similar or even greater power and torque figures to Ford's ancient 4.6L V8. Presumably weighing less and offering the prospect of carrying that weight further back, we say damn the purists.
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w00t w00t! A green, but crazy-fast Mustang is (probably) coming!
 
and, revived, is the SVO Moniker...

I like how they described the Ford V8 as ancient, when Chrysler and G.M. are using pushrods, still, and that Ford runs SOHC...DOHC in some apps. ^^

The EcoBoost makes for an interesting V6 Mustang, though...as powerful as the 4.6, with the (potential) tunability of Turbos....
 
EcoBoost....... Just a stupid marketing name from Ford saying they are trying to keep up with the times.

It's nothing new, I bet I will hear "EcoBoost this..... EcoBoost that...." (already am to some extent) Especially as I expect this is a plan with the upcoming new Falcon.


*EDIT* I just noticed the thread title

"The Coolest Engine Setup, EVAR! " lame :lol:
 
YSSMAN
The 2.0L should be replacing V6s under most circumstances, the 3.5L replacing the V8s otherwise. As a matter of fact, looks like Ford is considering throwing it in the Mustang too:



w00t w00t! A green, but crazy-fast Mustang is (probably) coming!
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Erm...I just soiled my pants reading that. 415bhp? That's a great start Ford! As much as I love the Ford Modular V8--as a former twin turbo V6 engine owner (3000GT VR4)-I can say that it is just as cool and makes just as pleasing noise as the V8. And in this case more power.

Jim Prower
and, revived, is the SVO Moniker...
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Hmmm, an SVO Mustang coming back? So I hope the SVT Cobra makes a comeback with the new 5.0L engine. Mmmmm the possibilities are enjoyable.
 
Jim Prower
I like how they described the Ford V8 as ancient, when Chrysler and G.M. are using pushrods, still, and that Ford runs SOHC...DOHC in some apps. ^^
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I've got bad news for OHV haters: GM plans on keeping the OHV engines for a long, long time. Although, they will be adding more E85, cylinder-deactivation, and Direct-Injection equipped models in the future...
 
Are you guys really comparing a Taurus to a BMW 3-series because it can drag with it? All this time I thought people raved about it being a handling champ when its really a drag car?
 
Its actually a 5-series in the video, but yeah, you forget that the Taurus was EPIC SUK before they gave the car the engine. Sell a few of those, and yeah, the car has a completely different attitude... Much like its SHO predecessors...
 
As far as I'm aware the 1st gen SHO Taurus handled quite well for an American car. And it was FWD too.
 
If Ford is still "hip" or "cool" with the kids, they'll stick the 260 BHP I4 in our current fugly, baby-eating Focus to make it special. I'm not even sure what they would call it to make it seem awesome...
 
Finally got the video to work...

Kinda reminds me of the old SVT Contour my friends brother had, he was quite a moron, but I remember stuff like the entire front of the car hopping to the side on the 2nd > 3rd shift and laying a patch of rubber.
 
SVT Contour is epic genius. I love that car, its quite quick when you run it hard.
 
Contour+EcoBoost V6 and AWD=EPIC WIN.

Once these cars have been kicking around for a while, they'll show up in junkyards wrecked. That's when you rip the engine, transmission, and front and rear suspension out of a Taurus, narrow the suspension and halfshafts, shorten the rear driveshaft, and squeeze it under a Contour.


Or do the same to a first-gen Probe, except put the engine/transaxle in the rear seat.
 
Rotary Junkie
Contour+EcoBoost V6 and AWD=EPIC WIN.

Once these cars have been kicking around for a while, they'll show up in junkyards wrecked. That's when you rip the engine, transmission, and front and rear suspension out of a Taurus, narrow the suspension and halfshafts, shorten the rear driveshaft, and squeeze it under a Contour.


Or do the same to a first-gen Probe, except put the engine/transaxle in the rear seat.
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That post = genius.
 
They make more power from a more compact design, get better fuel efficiency, and are going into production vehicles soon.
 
Rotary Junkie
They make more power from a more compact design, get better fuel efficiency, and are going into production vehicles soon.
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Ah.. so, in other words, American engineers have finally caught up with European and Japanese engines?

They make it sound like a big deal, but foreign automakers have had more compact, more powerful engines for a long time now. Color me unimpressed.
 
Jedi2016
Ah.. so, in other words, American engineers have finally caught up with European and Japanese engines?
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I wouldn't say that. Americans have just discovered that you can make more power if you put a turbo on. I seriously doubt we're going to see the type of power to displacement ration we were seeing in cars like the S2000 any time soon.
 
philly cheese
I wouldn't say that. Americans have just discovered that you can make more power if you put a turbo on. I seriously doubt we're going to see the type of power to displacement ration we were seeing in cars like the S2000 any time soon.
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Ya that's my impression as well. Welcome to early 90's Ford? Japanese and european automakers have been using turbos and been making much more efficient engines for a very long time.

If Ford was introducing a 1.6L diesel that could get 55-60mpg (like some of those diesel Citroen, Opel, Toyota etc. in europe do) and about 100 horsepower then I'd be impressed.
 
Well, we HAD discovered it, but GM put a lid on it because it was discovered that said Turbo made a midsizer faster in the 1/4 than the Corvette...

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The other thing is that they're putting Direct injection on this...and the big news is that this is well...Ford. Ford hasn't been known for their engines in the U.S. since the BOSS 429 went out of style. Well, okay, the 5.0's tunable, but compared to smallblocks of the time...
 
forza2.0
Whats so good about these engines I dont understand?
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Ford managed to quickly engineer a direct-injection, twin-turbocharged engine setup that makes more power than any other engines they offer (sans the GT500's 5.4L S/C V8) and get better fuel efficency as well. Best of all, Ford will have the engine in some of their new cars within the next few months, and afterwards, will eventually start popping into everything from Ford Fusions and Tauruses, up to the big F150.

So, personally speaking, a 340 BHP twin-turbocharged V6 that that gets fuel efficiency ratings as high, if not higher than the current 3.5L V6, this pretty much makes this new setup one of the coolest things ever that Ford has done.

...And with that little 2.0L direct-injection turbocharged engine coming along with 260 BHP, my hopes for a serious-performance Focus or Fusion (this engine may replace the N/A V6 option in the Fusion/Milan/MKZ), yeah, its just an awesome move on Ford's behalf...

So, its not necessarily a HUGE jump in automotive technology, but more or less, a seemingly HUGE jump for an American automaker. As far as I can recall, Volkswagen and BMW are the only automakers that offer direct-injection/turbocharged engines in the US, and thats only the 2.0 TSI and the 3.0L N54 (?). Maybe Acura too, I think the engine in the RDX is as well... But, everyone else offers a non direct-injection engine somewhere in the lineup, but it generally isn't the "run of the mill" cars that Ford will be going it with. Making the technology cheap and efficent, not to mention powerful, is why it is so important.

...And consequently, it will be GM/Chrysler/Toyota/Honda and the like that will have to play catch up with their mainstream vehicles...

GM says they're sticking with V8s on the high end, strapping DIG (direct-injection) and cylinder deactivation on everything, and adding E85 capabilities across the board. With Chrysler, who knows. They'll probably just buy VW parts again. As for Toyota, I have no idea there either, they don't seem to be banking on much outside of Hybrid power. Honda is playing the direct-injection game too, but only in a select few of their vehicles.

So, in summary, its not a HUGE deal on the total landscape of the automotive industry, but it truly is a HUGE deal for Ford and in general, the American automotive industry.
 
Your post made me tear YSS. You came over to the darkside. :D Life's better over here. We have twin turbos!!!
 
JCE
Your post made me tear YSS. You came over to the darkside. :D Life's better over here. We have twin turbos!!!
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You can't be picky if you like American cars. ;)

Also, this is something anyone can be genuinely excited about. :D :D :D
 
Well, I wouldn't go quite that far yet, but Ford has very nearly bumped Volkswagen out of second place in my favorite company list. Well, maybe not that far yet... They've got a long way to go with their product planning overall. But, the outright awesomeness that is EcoBoost makes up for a lot of stupid stuff they've done in my lifetime, and very nearly the idiocy that has been the Ford NA vs Ford Europe debacle since 1999.

Still, I'm happy that Ford is finally back on it's feet. I'm much happier to give them the love than Chrysler, but even then, they're in need of some love too.
 
If Chrysler start pumping out good products from an American standard with some turbos or superchargers I'll be listening. Otherwise Chrysler is still on my **** list.

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Oh, and Chrysler needs to start making good RWD, AWD, and hatchback(s) before I take them seriously.
 
GO TAURUS GO!

I echo the other people of page one, drop that in a V6 Mustang, and drop in the Boss crate motor for the GT, and they're gonna be so fast insurance for my DAD would go up!
 
I'm wondering just how many revivals this thread has had now.....

MustangSVT
Ya that's my impression as well. Welcome to early 90's Ford? Japanese and european automakers have been using turbos and been making much more efficient engines for a very long time.
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It looks like the Germans have started to forget about that, with them shoving 6.5 liter, 500 horsepower blocks under their hoods. For the smaller cars, they have though.

It seems that they knew that a turbo could make an efficient engine powerful, but they hadn't really come across the possibility of replacing the big engine with a smaller one and using a turbo to get the old performance out of it.
 

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