Ford Mustang Thread: 2011 General Talk

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JCE
Yup, and I'm just as entitled to it as you are. đź‘Ť
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Hmmm, are you sure?:odd::lol: J/K of course.:sly:

IMO, the LS V8s sound heaps better than Ford modular V8s, especially the 5.4s in BA-FG Falcons, you need a really good/right exhaust to make them sound like anything other than an old man coughing and splurting at rpm below say 3,000.
 
Can't wait for SVT to get a hold of this new Stang. Terminator II ftw!
 
Can't wait to see if this 412hp V8 is the XR8 or FPV, and if it's the XR8, how much more power FPV give it.:scared:
 
JCE
Don't forget not enough low frequency grumble. The LSx engines do not burble like previous SBC engines and even some Euro V8's do (listen to a Merc V8 made in the last 30 years and you'll understand).
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Well come on man, nothing is cooler than a M119 Benz.



 
Neither Modular Ford V8 or GM LSX sound bad to me ;)





I still prefer the refined, ear piercing shriek of something more like the two clips below :)



Sorry for going off topic...but who doesn't like listening to a nice engine/exhaust note? :lol:
 
Well the F355 is unfair because it's probably the best sounding V8 of all time.
 
Omnis
Well come on man, nothing is cooler than a M119 Benz.



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You misunderstood. I meant I LOVE Merc V8's. Cut me and I bleed part silver arrow for Merc and part blue for Ford. :sly:

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But since I love 8cyl engines I have to be madly in love with the F355 and its engine. Quite possibly the second best engine/exhaust noise ever from a V8 minus a Cobra Terminator.

 
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JCE
But since I love 8cyl engines I have to be madly in love with the F355 and its engine. Quite possibly the second best engine/exhaust noise ever from a V8 minus a Cobra Terminator.

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That sound at :55 when it shifted is just....
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JCE
You misunderstood. I meant I LOVE Merc V8's. Cut me and I bleed part silver arrow for Merc and part blue for Ford. :sly:

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But since I love 8cyl engines I have to be madly in love with the F355 and its engine. Quite possibly the second best engine/exhaust noise ever from a V8 minus a Cobra Terminator.

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No I understood you just fine. What I meant was that it's unfair to compare a M119 to a Sodular V8.
 
McLaren
SVT already have. Called the GT500. Don't expect the Terminator to come back as long as its around.
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I don't know if it's true or just a rumor but the next GT500 is supposedly going to have an ecoboost 5.0 (twin turbo) pumping out ~600hp.
 
I'll admit...the F355 at least doesn't sound like a pair of fours...does have shades of Honda VFR750...
 
Adamgp
I don't know if it's true or just a rumor but the next GT500 is supposedly going to have an ecoboost 5.0 (twin turbo) pumping out ~600hp.
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It'd be one thing to "tick" off the 2010 Mustang owners by offering a new 412Bhp engine, but I'd be amazed if they upped the power again. The 2010 model has 540Bhp while I believe the '09 has 500Bhp.
If anything, I'd imagine a bump to 550Bhp & then 600Bhp for maybe the KR?

Of course, I'd hope the car's handling is revised first before they throw 600Bhp at it just to start keeping up with the Corvettes.
 
If they would just switch the GT500 over to the aluminum block like the Ford GT used it would have so much to gain.
 
McLaren
That sound at :55 when it shifted is just....
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I LOL'd at the pic but completely agree with you on that noise @ 0:55s. The F355 is just the best Ferrari ever that isn't an F40.
 
Well, there was all that talk about doing an EcoBoost BOSS V8 for the GT500, but I think that's been dropped. Probably for the better. There is just something brutal about the setup they have now, no need for it to change too much.

RE: Sound

The LS-series V8s aren't bad, they just aren't quite the same as the rest of the small blocks. The Vortec units based on the LS series engines are pretty awesome, the 5.3L in particular.
 
ND4SPD
Can't wait for SVT to get a hold of this new Stang. Terminator II ftw!
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Never put II after a mustang name. It just reminds me of the Mustang II, which can be cool... but not often
McLaren
I keep hearing that's an idea for the 2011. :dopey:
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The 5.4 aluminum block has been confirmed I believe by some leaks on the other forum I'm on
 
mustangGT90210
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Never put II after a mustang name. It just reminds me of the Mustang II, which can be cool... but not often


The 5.4 aluminum block has been confirmed I believe by some leaks on the other forum I'm on
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Bah, now that you've mentioned that. I agree with your facepalm.....
 
All the GT500 needs to be competitive is to not weigh as much as your average 3000GT. If the rumors are true that all of the 5.4 blocks will be changed to aluminum in the next year or so, than the GT500 will lose about 150 pounds or so from the front axle from that alone. If Ford was really smart they would ditch the 5.4 altogether in the Mustang and just supercharge this new engine, which would lop off about 300 pounds, but I dunno if they would do that without first putting the 5.0 through its paces.
 
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Toronado
All the GT500 needs to be competitive is to not weigh as much as your average 3000GT. If the rumors are true that all of the 5.4 blocks will be changed to aluminum in the next year or so, than the GT500 will lose about 150 pounds or so from the front axle from that alone. If Ford was really smart they would ditch the 5.4 altogether in the Mustang and just supercharge this new engine, which would lop off about 300 pounds, but I dunno if they would do that without first putting the 5.0 through its paces.
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No way would they save 150 pounds from changing the block material from iron to aluminum. The iron block is 68lbs heavier to be exact.

I also find it interesting that the new 5.0 GT DOHC V8 is so much smaller than the 4.6 DOHC in the previous Cobra's and GT500. I wouldn't be surprised if Ford uses the new DOHC design in the new GT500 to save some weight and space.
 
timeattack07gt
No way would they save 150 pounds from changing the block material from iron to aluminum. The iron block is 68lbs heavier to be exact.
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I doubt it. The 4.6 SOHC saved 65 pounds when it was switched from iron to aluminum in 2005. The 5.4 is nearly a foot taller when equipped with DOHC heads, and its also wider by a few inches, so it has much more weight to lose. In retrospect, I had forgotten that the GT500 already has some aluminum parts, so the likely weight improvements would probably be much closer to 100 pounds rather than 150, but the weight lost would still be more than 68 pounds. In any case, 735 or so pounds for the GT500 engine is better than the 835 pounds it currently has. On the other hand, 500 or so pounds for a supercharged 5.0 would be much better, with the added bonus of being much more compact.
 
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Anyone know when companies like InsideLine and MotorTrend will get a hold of these? I know most of you think squat of their opinion, and tbh I couldn't care much for what they think either, but you have to admit, they post some pretty damn good footage of the cars they test, and they show performance results.
 
Toronado
I doubt it. The 4.6 SOHC saved 65 pounds when it was switched from iron to aluminum in 2005. The 5.4 is nearly a foot taller when equipped with DOHC heads, and its also wider by a few inches, so it has much more weight to lose. In retrospect, I had forgotten that the GT500 already has some aluminum parts, so the likely weight improvements would probably be much closer to 100 pounds rather than 150, but the weight lost would still be more than 68 pounds. In any case, 735 or so pounds for the GT500 engine is better than the 835 pounds it currently has. On the other hand, 500 or so pounds for a supercharged 5.0 would be much better, with the added bonus of being much more compact.
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I half think that they need to move the GT500 up in the lineup, and take it to the same Devil's Tuner that Chevrolet took the Corvette to for the ZR1. Then put a blown or turbo'd 5-liter into a track-focused GT350 model.

((Would find it hilarious if Ford's name for such a project was "Blackbird."))
 
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I think if they make the GT500 stomp ZR1s in a straight line they'll have done well enough.

A GT350 should be NA 5.0 with an optional supercharger though. Say, 430-450hp NA and 550-600 for SC'd.
 
In other words, the Shelby GT.

The problem is that you pay an extra $10,000 because of a Shelby badge and limited production numbers for what is little more than a bolt-on Mustang GT.
 
Okay, fine, we'll call it an SVT Cobra, or a BOSS 302. Doesn't matter - the GT500 is a luxury musclecar, and there needs to be a real, track-focused model. That's street-legal, of course.

The Base/Z06/ZR1 setup, (or, if you rather, Carrera/GT3/Turbo,) works well for GM, (and Porsche,) why not Ford?
 
I agree with a GT350 being cool, its just that it gets lost in marketing and pricing. It would be perfect if they could do a mild cam job, free up the intake and exhaust more (e-cutouts like a Corvette maybe, or just save the straight exhaust for a $500 aftermarket job), get it doing at least 460hp. Ditch the rear seat, anything that could be compromised to save weight without making it look like a stripped GT should be done. Use lesser, lighter sound deadening, light wheels with some ultra-high-performance rubber (and 1.5" wider wheels and tires). Brembos, Recaros (how about that in a Mustang :sly:). Perhaps even a simple roll hoop with a couple supports filling the void of the back seat. Oh, and IRS.
 
I presume you're talking about this?

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Ford Racing Mustang 302R

The Mustang BOSS 302R is a serialized off-road-only vehicle ready to race. Each base model will come with a 5.0-liter four-valve engine and a six-speed manual transmission with a roll cage, race seats, safety harness, data acquisition and race dampers/springs, and a Brembo brake and tire package, starting at an MSRP of $79,000.
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Only problem is that it isn't road-legal...



Generally speaking, I agree. However, given the run of Mustangs that we've had for the past decade, its only a matter of time before the next touched-up performance model hits the streets. I'd be willing to bet they do a GT350 or a BOSS 302 model first, as well as the inevitable Bullitt edition. But thats more or less a matter of time than anything else.
 
If I could get another loan on my house I would buy one of those Boss 302Rs without a second thought.
 

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