Ford Mustang Thread: 2011 General Talk

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Alex.
I hope it looks like the guigaro aswell. The old mustangs seemed to look thinner and sportier, but now theyre like alot taller and chunkier. I'm no mustang fan but This thing needs to cut down on the pies.
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Seconded, but extend that to all cars. The Mustang is just a prime example of how sloppy design and excess weight can get in the way of a good car.
 
ND4SPD
Looks like its wearing a shelby front end now with that angle on the grill connecting with the headlights.
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As well as the GT500 wheels painted black.

bennyrrr
Pray to whatever god you pray to that Ford will grow a spine and put in independent rear suspension
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+1 Me hopes so. They could always offer a "drag pack" that still gives users the live rear axel capabilities if they desire.

And on this topic, let me see the engine choices before I go all lovey on the exterior design.
 
I'm guessing the same at first, unless Ford grows a pair and follows through on the Cammer they have been on again/off again about since it was introduced as a crate engine and then use it as the top of the line engine.
 
Thing is, with GM canceling the "Ultra V8" as of today, it may be more difficult to believe that their BOSS/Hurricane program will go through properly. I mean, sure, they can be tuned properly (and I hope Ford takes that route), but its hard to say anymore.

Keep the weight down, throw in an IRS, and give it 330 BHP with the 4.6L unit and I'd be one happy guy...
 
I like the grille angle. And the slightly Lamborghini-esque taillights. I sure hope there is a lot of fluff under that camo however. The hood and fenders on that look both too big at the same time. They need to bring at least one tighter to the rest of the car.

Looks like I can use it to tow my weekend race car to the track too:tup:.

YSSMAN
(BTW: Thats what Michigan looks like in the winter. It sucks...)
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I knew that looked vaguely familiar. I would kill to have that speed limit sign here though.
 
Its really odd how fast you can travel on the East side of the State as compared to over here on the West side. Both Holland and Muskegon have some idiotic speed limits if you ask me...
 
YSSMAN
Keep the weight down, throw in an IRS, and give it 330 BHP with the 4.6L unit and I'd be one happy guy...
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It sounds like you are describing the (awesome) old Cobra. 4 valve twin cam as the base V8? Yes! Then supercharge it for faster-than-the-GT500-fun.
 
YSSMAN
Its really odd how fast you can travel on the East side of the State as compared to over here on the West side. Both Holland and Muskegon have some idiotic speed limits if you ask me...
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Do you mean the traffic speed that hits 90 frequently on the West side? Or is the East Side faster?

Toronado
It sounds like you are describing the (awesome) old Cobra. 4 valve twin cam as the base V8? Yes! Then supercharge it for faster-than-the-GT500-fun.
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Yes please! ZR-1 competitor?
 
No. I don't want a Corvette competitor Mustang I want a lives-up-to-the-Mustang-name Mustang. I want a Camaro-competitor Mustang. I want a massively-underrated-at-390 HP Mustang. With IRS.
 
Toronado
No. I don't want a Corvette competitor Mustang I want a lives-up-to-the-Mustang-name Mustang. I want a Camaro-competitor Mustang. I want a massively-underrated-at-390 HP Mustang. With IRS.
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That sounds good too. But you may run into problems of the Corvette holding the Camaro back. Maybe of Ford does it first....
 
RE: IRS: I've got a better idea. Offer it as a performance upgrade... call it the "SVT" suspension upgrade, factory-installed for a ridiculous amount of mark-up... another way for Ford to make even more money off of a car that's already selling above sticker... :lol:

But seriously, sell it as an upgrade.

I really like the idea of a more Guigaro faced Mustang... that showcar was gorgeous in ways that the BMW M6 (that it resembles, slightly) should have been... but isn't.
 
Toronado
I want a Camaro-competitor Mustang. I want a massively-underrated-at-390 HP Mustang. With IRS.
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Strange, you and I seem to be in complete agreement over this Mustang thing. :sly:👍
 
So apparently we know more about the new V8 in the Mustang:

Autosavant
For a while, rumors went back and forth on what engine will power the new 2010 Mustang. Finally, sources are agreeing and statements are converging on specifications of a single engine.

Throughout Ford, the V8 lineup is undergoing a significant makeover. With the debut of the 2009 F-150, Ford released a new version of the 5.4l Modular (also called MOD or Triton) V8. This new engine, while sharing many components with earlier models, will sport meaningful improvements in horsepower, torque, and fuel mileage. This update will position the engine’s torque in the neighborhood of much larger V8 engines, such as Toyota’s 5.7l iForce, or GM’s 6.0l Vortec Max. The new 5.4l will see only truck duty, however.

Later this year, Ford will also finally release the BOSS V8 engine, and once again this engine will be truck-only. The engine will be a 6.2l SOHC V8 with an expected 425hp and 450 ft.lbs of torque. The first vehicle with this new engine is to be the 2009 Navigator, the one vehicle in Ford’s lineup that desperately and unquestionably needs the engine. Around the end of 2008, this engine will finally make it to the F-150, and maybe even the Expedition.

The Mustang GT is currently powered by the 4.6l MOD engine, and while this engine received minor tweaks for service in the 2009 F-150, its production life is coming to an end. When the 2010 version of the F-150 debuts, the small V8 currently available in the F-150 will probably be replaced with a truck version of Ford’s ubiquitous Duratec V6 engine. Shortly thereafter, the engine will also disappear from the Explorer and will finally die along with the Panther platform cars in 2010 calendar year.

Given the truck-only designation of the 5.4l MOD and 6.2l BOSS engines, there has been wild speculation about the engine for the Mustang GT. About six months ago some sources have began talking about a new 5.0l V8. Now, finally, details on this engine are much more solidified. This new engine originates from the Modular family, but with many unique parts. The engine will include a new aluminum block and new four-valve-per-cylinder head. The engine will also include direct injection, and variable valve timing.

All in all, this new engine promises to make a respectable 400 – 425 horses, and similar torque. This would position Ford squarely among other similar high-tech V8 engines from Lexus, BMW, or Audi. More importantly, this new engine will allow Ford to compete with the upcoming Camaro and Challenger. However, unlike the large displacement, low-tech, pushrod LS and HEMI engines in the competition, Ford’s engine will rely on more sophisticated technology to squeeze greater power from a smaller engine, promising better fuel economy.

The new Mustang will probably debut in L.A. this fall or in Detroit next winter, and we should know then just how well Ford prepared for the suddenly competitive-again pony-car segment.
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I'd say that was to be expected, but I don't think they should be selling the Camaro short either. Current rumors suggest that it will be going smaller, with DIG, debuting the next generation of small-block V8 in 2009. Maybe.

Still, I'm excited about the new Ford powerplant. One hopes they add dash more torque on the low end, make it sound a bit more "beefy" than the current modular options as well. As always, I'm looking for some good competition, and I think Ford will deliver. Although, I still want to see an EcoBoost V6 'SVO' option...
 
Omnis
EcoBoost V8 kthnx.
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Part of Fords Ecoboost plans is displacement reduction, and the extra friction and pumping losses of a V8 I don't think will go down well into their plans.

Ford are looking to keep the power levels up (unlike the 70's where power was sacrificed) while increasing efficiency (which Is something I think many forget with Fords 'Ecoboost') and fuel economy.
 
So, its the return of the Five-Oh apparently...

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Jalopnik
If you believe Bill Osborne, President of Ford Australia, the 2010 Ford Mustang will get the new 5.0-liter engine under the hood — potentially with some turbocharging or supercharging mixed in. He dropped the bomb on the kiwis over at Stuff.co.nz while talking about engine mixes on the next Ford Falcon. Here's what they say about what he said in order to limit that whole game o' telephone:

Beyond that Osborne confirmed a new 5.0-litre V8 to be developed and built in North America for the Ford Mustang was being examined for possible use in Ford's new Falcon.
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Not a big surprise, its been talked about for a while now. Still, it will need a helluva lot more power to be able to go toe-to-toe with these guys, and hopefully this will back it up. Although, I have to admit, the idea of the Ecoboost V6 Mustang is still an excellent alternative.
 
wasnt the ecoboost v6 already confirmed? the 5.0 will need to make at least 360hp if its going to be the GT model.
 
Headlight Update:

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KGP
We just caught our first uncovered look at the headlight design destined for the 2010 Mustang. Past prototypes have hinted at a little chrome trim residing behind the headlight camouflage, and now we can see what was truly lurking behind the disguise. While the overall grille layout still appears to take some inspiration from the Giugiaro Mustang concept, it's now clear that the headlights are going their own, retro way.
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...So if its not going completely Giugiaro, where exactly is it going then?
 
I was going to say that the Mustang looked a "lil' emo."

Either way, its still one of the best-looking cars you can buy for cheap (until the Camaro shows up), so I'd be happy to have one in my driveway. Problem is, they need to make Highland Green a standard color option...
 

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