Formula 1 Cracks down on modding community

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Snaeper
http://www.virtualr.net/no-more-formula-one-modding-content-on-virtualr

Looks like F1 is increasing it's control of the F1 license to nazi-levels.

While F1 mods could very well continue to pop up, I highly doubt any website will risk hosting them.
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They'll stay around a claim that they aren't F1 related due to not using the name just likeness which gives them artistic liberties to do so. Really don't see how the FOM can regulate and take legal action against that, and really host sites are only giving in because it's a major power that they don't not have the tools are dumb courage to face down and say "whatever."
 
They must be really antsy about the Lotus E21 in Forza 5. Almost any livery you could wish for must be available for that car by now.
 
If they are not for profit F1 shouldn't be able to block the content. Of course I'm thinking logically not greedily.
 
VXR
They must be really antsy about the Lotus E21 in Forza 5. Almost any livery you could wish for must be available for that car by now.
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Don't forget our favorite series' very own F2007 and F10 as well as the upcoming 97T (and Senna's '88 suit). ;)

That aside, this is a butthurt and overzealous reaction. What's next? Forcing BATracer to completely remove every F1 seasons? :irked:
 
As far as I know, both Ferrari F1 cars and the Lotus 97T are special cases

Ferrari own the rights of their F1 cars, and almost everything Senna used during his career is now owned by the Senna Institute, not the FOM or copyright owners of everything else you can imagine about F1, that's why PD only were able to get those cars

Correct me if I'm wrong, please :boggled:
 
AJHG1000
As far as I know, both Ferrari F1 cars and the Lotus 97T are special cases

Ferrari own the rights of their F1 cars, and almost everything Senna used during his career is now owned by the Senna Institute, not the FOM or copyright owners of everything else you can imagine about F1, that's why PD only were able to get those cars

Correct me if I'm wrong, please :boggled:
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Explain Forza's Lotus E21 and rF2's preloaded Marussia. ;)
 
As long as no FIA/FOM/FOTA logos are used, I don't see how any legal challenge can be launched unless a particular car or livery is owned by the organisation. In the majority of cases, the copyright of owned by the teams.
 
I believe the issue here is that the websites that host the mods get money for advertising the mods. This is a known issue with much of the modding community in Arma (the only game that I have any experiencing modding with), where Member A would have his content stolen and included in Member B's mod-packs while Member B hosted the mods on his own sites and made money from the ad revenue on those sites.

In this situation, since F1 is such a big series and license, they don't want websites making ad revenue from people going there to get an unlicensed mod.

This does not prohibit the mods themselves from being developed and released while using the logos and name, but as long as those mods are hosted on for-profit sites with ad revenue, they will be hunted down since they're basically making money of the F1 license without permission.

All in all, it seems logical, if a bit heavy-handed, since the simulation community is small and the modders in that community even smaller and the Simulation F1 Modders even smaller. Why they're hunting down such a small fraction of people is amusing.
 
Snaeper
I believe the issue here is that the websites that host the mods get money for advertising the mods. This is a known issue with much of the modding community in Arma (the only game that I have any experiencing modding with), where Member A would have his content stolen and included in Member B's mod-packs while Member B hosted the mods on his own sites and made money from the ad revenue on those sites.

In this situation, since F1 is such a big series and license, they don't want websites making ad revenue from people going there to get an unlicensed mod.

This does not prohibit the mods themselves from being developed and released while using the logos and name, but as long as those mods are hosted on for-profit sites with ad revenue, they will be hunted down since they're basically making money of the F1 license without permission.

All in all, it seems logical, if a bit heavy-handed, since the simulation community is small and the modders in that community even smaller and the Simulation F1 Modders even smaller. Why they're hunting down such a small fraction of people is amusing.
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So if I understand this correctly, its not so much the mods that are being cracked down upon as it is the sites that make money from ad revenue with the F1 Trademarks which host said mods.
 
I think FOM has the rights to the terms F1 and Formula 1 and the associated Championship together with this years and the last two years cars from all teams (Ferrari excepted) provided there is a valid Concord agreement in place.

I don't see any reason why you couldn't sign up 4-6 cars from 5-10 years ago and have them race together under a different term.
 
DK
Welcome to the world of copyright law!
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Not that I am an expert, the FIA had blocked one of my YouTube videos showing a Ferrari F1. I argued back the car and track were independent non-profit add-on mods for my legally owned rFator, they backed off and my video was released.

Again, maybe I'm wrong, if we as the community along with modders and SIM software companies , such as ISI, fight back we stand a chance. These institutions, entities are always pushing the envelope of what we, the public, will stand. We should push back.
 
I don't want to imagine how heavily the iron fist of Bernie's lawyers would come down if ACTA was implemented.
 
tankuroded
Don't forget our favorite series' very own F2007 and F10 as well as the upcoming 97T (and Senna's '88 suit). ;)

That aside, this is a butthurt and overzealous reaction. What's next? Forcing BATracer to completely remove every F1 seasons? :irked:
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If they know what's good for them they will said the F1 Muscle
 
RACECAR
So if I understand this correctly, its not so much the mods that are being cracked down upon as it is the sites that make money from ad revenue with the F1 Trademarks which host said mods.
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Correct, but I cannot say for certain, though I'm guessing this is the case since websites do make money for hosting the content. Thus profiting from F1 without obtaining a legal license. Mods can still be created, but they'd have to be hosted ambiguously and use word of mouth to spread around.

What happens to an F1 mod if it becomes well known in that method is uncertain.
 
Sigh...A sport that has been declining in popularity is trying even harder to alienate the small group of people who are most passionate about it. I respect IP laws, but in the grand scheme on things taking down these mods isn't going to affect Bernie's bank account much, but it's going to affect fans enjoyment and perception of the governing body. As if last week's qualifying fiasco isn't enough of a wake up call already...

I hope Max Verstappen (an avid simracer himself) throws up a protest or something :lol: Judging fom his radio communications last week he's pretty good at it too :P
 
prisonermonkeys
Yes, they're horrible people for wanting to protect their image and content.
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From what, a harmless group of die hard fans who in no way make ANY financial gain from something as simple as making a replica of a team car? I sure seem to notice no one else appears as aggressive to do such a thing over someone making their cars.
 
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