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Even max feels the pain of Ferrari's mastery

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Liquid
That is what Ferrari have been like throughout all of their history, no matter what people's nostalgia will tell them. The Schumacher years were the exception, not the norm.
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And even that took colossal effort, and Ferrari wound up giving him the boot no different than anyone else.

They've won championships in spite of themselves, not because.
 
Liquid
That is what Ferrari have been like throughout all of their history, no matter what people's nostalgia will tell them. The Schumacher years were the exception, not the norm.
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Indeed. Leclerc questioning the Ferrari team management gives me Prost/Lauda vibes.
 
Hamilton had more to lose by crashing into Leclerc this year than he did by crashing into Max last year. That's all it comes down to.

Samus
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Verstappen explains why he 'appreciated' battle with Schumacher

Having suffered damage to his car earlier in the race, Max Verstappen found himself battling with cars in the midfield during the British Grand Prix, and enjoyed a particularly close fight with Mick Schumacher.
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""I was like, 'Well, he has to now back off, otherwise we're both out,'" the World Champion explained. "Luckily, he's smart enough to [do that].""

The old "you back out or we crash" attitude.
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Nothing wrong with that. Mick should've stayed in it and spun him off at club on the last lap, but he is not ruthless enough.
 
ShiftingGears
Hamilton had more to lose by crashing into Leclerc this year than he did by crashing into Max last year. That's all it comes down to.
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Last year he was a championship contender fighting for victory against his title rival.
This year he was hopelessly adrift in the championship standings and attempting to pull what might be his sole victory of the year.
 
Apparently the roll "hoop" structure on Zhou's Alfa was nothing more than a single pole glued onto the top of the monocoque. Such heavy modern F1 cars, full of fuel, sliding long distances and changing direction while upside down are going to need much beefier structure.

 
It's such an unexpected circumstance for a Formula One car to move upside down like that for so long. It's called a roll hoop for a reason, not a slide hoop.
 
Dotini
Apparently the roll "hoop" structure on Zhou's Alfa was nothing more than a single pole glued onto the top of the monocoque. Such heavy modern F1 cars, full of fuel, sliding long distances and changing direction while upside down are going to need much beefier structure.

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This could be the crash that sets in motion a ban for such roll hoops, or at least clarifies how a roll hoop should be attached to the monocoque.
 
Quote from Autosport:
He explained that the roll hoop had surpassed figures specified in tests laid down by motorsport's governing body.

"With that first impact, where it landed on the first flip, the team is still doing an investigation," he said.

"But I think the first hit was much harder than what they test for the safety test. This was like a few times harder than the actual numbers we want in that."
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It was the initial impact which flattened the hoop. Worrying when the roll hoop can't support the weight of the car plus a bit more...
 
DG_Silva
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It was the initial impact which flattened the hoop. Worrying when the roll hoop can't support the weight of the car plus a bit more...
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That is alarming. A taller driver like Russell may not have fared so well as Zhou. This is a serious situation with no immediate solution. Even an interim solution will cost much time and money.
 
Very reminiscent of Pedro Diniz who also crashed a Sauber and lost his roll hoop, he didn't have the halo however.
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I read that there's 2 types of roll hoop favoured and this style Alfa used had fallen out of favour, hadn't been seen a for a few seasons, but as its more aerodynamic and better weight wise it came back into favour.
 
In Diniz's case his crash was before HANS and it is speculated that a HANS device would have killed him in that particular crash due to keeping his neck from tucking in when the roll hoop hit the soft ground.

I do find it fascinating how similar some incidents can be yet the safety devices in each act very differently.
 

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