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[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Deserved penalty for Leclerc, but won't make a difference

I'm assuming there will be some penalty point(s) to go along with that.

This is Hulk's infringement:
Car 27 moved after the four seconds signal was illuminated and before the start
signal was given. As there was only slight movement and no sporting advantage
appeared to be gained, the least severe penalty available is imposed.

 

[PaMu1337]

I'm assuming there will be some penalty point(s) to go along with that.

This is Hulk's infringement:
Car 27 moved after the four seconds signal was illuminated and before the start
signal was given. As there was only slight movement and no sporting advantage
appeared to be gained, the least severe penalty available is imposed.

Leclerc currently has 0 points, so I doubt it'll bother him much.

It'll be more of an issue for Verstappen, who is currently on 9, and won't have any expire until late October. If he gets 2 points for this, he can't get any penalty point at all until after the Mexican GP, 6 races from now.

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Real nailbiter with the McLarens. I wasn't expecting Lando's one-stop to work that well. Seriously thought Oscar was going to lock up into him and take them both out.

I'm gutted for Charles, man.

Solid race for Alonso, Bortoleto, and... Stroll?! Holy crap! Nicely done.

Gonna be a long summer break.

 

[PaMu1337]

How many shots have we had now of Oscar sitting alone in the cooldown room? 😅

Russel: "Why didn't you t-bone him? That'd have been great! 😁"

 

[IforceV8]

The drivers room is a fitting end, start the film with only 1 driver in the room and then put the camera behind RUS big head so we cant see the TV.

 

[PaMu1337]

The drivers room is a fitting end, start the film with only 1 driver in the room and then put the camera behind RUS big head so we cant see the TV.

On par with the average TV direction quality in recent years.

Lando knows he's a danger around Hungarian trophies 🤣

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

The drivers room is a fitting end, start the film with only 1 driver in the room and then put the camera behind RUS big head so we cant see the TV.

They wanted us to experience what it's like driving behind someone on this track.

 

[Famine]

Leclerc's move was dim but "excusable" in the sense that he may have lost sight of Russell, but they can find the time to give him an inconsequential penalty before the end of the race... yet not the obvious "move or we crash" from the usual source a dozen laps earlier?

 

[PaMu1337]

Leclerc's move was dim but "excusable" in the sense that he may have lost sight of Russell, but they can find the time to give him an inconsequential penalty before the end of the race... yet not the obvious "move or we crash" from the usual source a dozen laps earlier?

I don't think Leclerc's move was excusable, and it was an obvious penalty to me.

But delaying a decision on Max' move is also inexcusable to me. That's one of the most obvious penalties ever. Absolutely no reason to not give it immediately.

 

[Famine]

I don't think Leclerc's move was excusable

Hence the air quotes and subsequent explanation of what I mean by it. It looks far more like a mistake than a deliberate act - and we all make them, but mistakes are still punishable.

 

[PaMu1337]

Hence the air quotes and subsequent explanation of what I mean by it. It looks far more like a mistake than a deliberate act - and we all make them, but mistakes are still punishable.

Sure, but I personally don't agree with your assessment. He didn't lose sight of Russell. He made a reactive pull to the right at the last moment, when he saw Russell diving in.

Edit: and he did it twice

Edit2: Russell, not Oscar

 

[IforceV8]

 

[Dennisch]

And Belgium and Italy 2019 were with an illegal car.

 

[Famine]

Sure, but I personally don't agree with your assessment. He didn't lose sight of Oscar. He made a reactive pull to the right at the last moment, when he saw Oscar diving in.

Edit: and he did it twice

Wasn't it for moving right into Russell?

 

[PaMu1337]

Wasn't it for moving right into Russell?

Yeah, I meant Russell 🤦
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[PaMu1337]

Charles: "We had an issue, I thought it was in our control, but it actually was an issue with the chassis"

 

[IforceV8]

 

[PaMu1337]

Lewis just said his mindset is the same as yesterday. He's glad it's over and he's going away for a bit.
He sounds depressed honestly. Things are definitely getting in his head

 

[GlamFM]

I hate to see Lewis like this, but I also hate to say that this is sort of what I expected.
It’s all about keeping his legacy intact now IMO.

 

[Famine]

 

[Rotorist]

It is a sad thing that several times that Leclerk was on a path to win a GP something weird happened that prevented him from winning. Today was clearly his race to lose. And he lost it again because something umpredictable happened to his car.

 

[IforceV8]

Good, a Bluesky link instead of a elmo.

 

[PaMu1337]

1 penalty point for Leclerc

10 sec penalty and 2 penalty points for Gasly

No decision on Verstappen yet

 

[McLaren]

I hate to see Lewis like this, but I also hate to say that this is sort of what I expected.
It’s all about keeping his legacy intact now IMO.

His legacy will be fine, even if he retires on a low end. Michael's final years were sub-par for a driver of his caliber, he's still a GOAT.

 

[PaMu1337]

From Leclerc's decision document:

The Stewards took into account that Car 63 succeeded in overtaking Car 16 and that there was no contact and in these circumstances apply a less severe penalty than might have been applied in different circumstances.

I thought consequences didn't matter? 🤔

 

[GlamFM]

His legacy will be fine, even if he retires on a low end. Michael's final years were sub-par for a driver of his caliber, he's still a GOAT.

I think Michael’s Legacy has suffered TBH. And Sebs stint at Aston certainly changed the way people view him and his career. Like in any sport it’s really hard to find the right time to let go in F1.

I know exactly what or who Toto meant when he said: everyone has a shelf life.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

The cars behind Max were lapped so any time penalty shouldn't have an impact. Usually they give two penalty points for forcing a car wide so will see if they give him that as usually they are very lenient with him. It will put him at risk of missing his home race if he picks up any penalty points in practice or qualifying.

 

[PaMu1337]

And Sebs stint at Aston certainly changed the way people view him and his career.

For Seb specifically, I think it didn't affect people's view on his career that much, but it massively affected how people viewed him as a person, in a positive way.
He was quite hated during his Red Bull days, and still got a lot of negativity in his Ferrari era. Now he's seen as this really nice, role-model type guy.

 

[PaMu1337]

Verstappen no further action 🤦

The driver of Car 1 stated during the hearing that he had gained some momentum on Car 44 out of Turn 3 with fresher tyres and used this momentum to make a move on the inside into Turn 4. He further elaborated that he was in full control of his car and could have stayed further to the inside to leave space for Car 44 on the exit. However he said, as Car 44 had gone off track, he elected to use all of the track on the exit.

The team representative of Car 44 confirmed that there was no contact between both cars and further stated that the driver of Car 44 chose not to attempt to remain on track.

Taking all this into account, the Stewards determine that there was no contact and that the incident does not qualify as forcing another car off track despite the ambitious nature of the overtaking attempt and take no further action.

 

[McLaren]

I think Michael’s Legacy has suffered TBH. And Sebs stint at Aston certainly changed the way people view him and his career. Like in any sport it’s really hard to find the right time to let go in F1.

I know exactly what or who Toto meant when he said: everyone has a shelf life.

I don't think anything has really affected Michael's legacy. His time with Ferrari was so dominant, it nearly overshadows his previous success with Benetton when his name comes up & his Mercedes years are essentially forgotten.

Lewis' legacy will be fine unless he just completely derails it. Like Michael, he's got so many accolades to be remembered by. His post-career is already being seen in the same positive "Good Guy" light like Seb.

Look at Alonso. He's long past the world titles, he's gone through the Ferrari meme route, has had flashes of being a contender whilst still being in a back marker, even says things that might be controversial. That man is still universally loved for the most part.