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This race had everything. Oscar's penalty might be a bit harsh but great result for Hulk who finally got a podium finish after 239 races. Really happy for him. The WDC fight is getting closer and closer between the two McLaren drivers.
 
Biggest Aussie robbery since the days of Ned Kelly - ive tried to Google such as "who were the stewards at the British F1 grand prix 2025" without success .........are they in hiding ?
 
Whilst I find the Piastri penalty hard to swallow, I do get the reason behind it and totally see where the stewards are coming from.

What I don't get is the super late calls for the safety car to come in that has happened a few more times this season.
 
Max was so supportive of Nico. Really nice to see. He was genuinely happy for him.

Oscar asking his team for P1 is super embarrassing. What a moron.
Never really cared for him because he never shows any character. Today he did - and boy is it a turn off.
 
Mercedes apparently sent Hulk a gift pack for his Podium. I get the impression THIS is a pretty popular podium, somewhere on the same level as the one Kobayashi got for the team in 2012.
 
italian06
What I don't get is the super late calls for the safety car to come in that has happened a few more times this season.
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The flak they got from the teams in previous seasons is probably why. The teams are being quite vocal about the cars racing.

One lap more behind the safety car is wasted data and racing. Personally I also feel the formation lap behind the safety car was the wrong call, that said enough Strat calls were bad and cars falling off in low grip/visability vindicates their decisions.

So on balance, everyone did the best they could in the moments.
 
I think this explains why Oscar asked about the swap - if there'd been a/another safety car whilst it was still wet the team were going to pit the cars together, make Lando wait behind whilst Oscar served his penalty and preserve the order.

www.skysports.com

British GP: Oscar Piastri admits Lando Norris swapping back positions in British GP would have been unfair

Oscar Piastri asked McLaren after serving his 10-second penalty whether they would swap him and Lando Norris back around if they agreed sanction was unfair; Piastri later admitted such a swap would not have been fair on his team-mate
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From Andrea Stella:
the way we handled the situation today given the penalty was to allow Oscar, despite the penalty, in case of a Safety Car to retain the lead.

"If there was s Safety Car, both cars would have pitted [at the same time], Oscar would have paid the penalty, Lando would have waited and the two McLarens would have gone out in the same corner as they came in.

"But at the point in which we needed to have the transition of the dry tyres, then the penalty was made, and at that stage we thought that we should just retain the natural order.
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Oscar was presumably enquiring why they weren't sticking to that plan - which was a pretty dumb one and would've caused even more trouble if they'd done it.
 
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Fezzik
I think this explains why Oscar asked about the swap - if there'd been a/another safety car whilst it was still wet the team were going to pit the cars together, make Lando wait behind whilst Oscar served his penalty and preserve the order.

www.skysports.com

British GP: Oscar Piastri admits Lando Norris swapping back positions in British GP would have been unfair

Oscar Piastri asked McLaren after serving his 10-second penalty whether they would swap him and Lando Norris back around if they agreed sanction was unfair; Piastri later admitted such a swap would not have been fair on his team-mate
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From Andrea Stella:


Oscar was presumably enquiring why they weren't sticking to that plan - which was a pretty dumb one and would've caused even more trouble if they'd done it.
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I think that’s a PR spin and an attempt to save face from Oscar.

Oscar literally said: I don’t think the penalty was fair, we should swap back and race.
 
Bazool
ive tried to Google such as "who were the stewards at the British F1 grand prix 2025" without success .........are they in hiding ?
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Their names are on every single document they issue so... no.



Whoever "ive" is, they need to work on their information-gathering techniques.
 
Famine
Not only do I, I already put it in my post...
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apologies im not getting that bit in my cave

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Nico Hülkenberg has passed his crown down to Adrian Sutil and, out of the currently active drivers, Yuki Tsunoda. From the same garage, Volkswagen Group are actually entering F1 next year.

It seems like the old running jokes from the pre-poisonous social media era of F1 is finally at an end.
 
Soooo pleased for Hulkenberg, who for all accounts was likely never going to return to F1 at one point. Fully deserved and kept his cool under heavy threat from Hamilton. I did notice that the DRS was suddenly enabled during the middle stint at a perfect time for him to overtake Stroll (as Hamilton was almost within his own DRS range). That was likely the key moment to his podium and deservedly so.

As for other drivers, congratulations to Norris for winning his home GP, albeit due to Piastri's 'error'. Personally I think it was on purpose to get under Verstappen's skin, and it half-worked.

Hamilton is starting to get the hang of this Ferrari, and he is well known to be a monster in the second half of a season. I can see him eventually overtaking Leclerc and Russell towards the last few races. Especially if other teams slow their development down. Either way Ferrari brought him in for the 2026 season onwards as it well known since pre-season that they and Mercedes have something up their sleeve in terms of engine development.
 
Fezzik
Oscar was right when he said he’d done the same thing on previous laps. Lucky he didn’t get 2 penalties ;) - I guess Max didn’t need to take avoiding action the first time.
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There was a first time this happened? The follow questions would be: how were the conditions then, where was Max relative to Oscar, and was this done at the same relative spot? Something changed that didn't draw attention the first time versus the second one.

On an unrelated note, I don't know if Max having major struggles with the car in rain conditions meant anything that we didn't already know about the car or it really was just going with a setup poor for a wet track. I also found interesting how Lewis caught up to Nico and then went backwards. I figured that was because he used up everything just to get there, but I recall both Ferraris having that same problem earlier in the race where performance simply fell off a cliff after a certain number of laps. Again, could just be hoping for dry with the setup and losing.
 
Fezzik
I think this explains why Oscar asked about the swap - if there'd been a/another safety car whilst it was still wet the team were going to pit the cars together, make Lando wait behind whilst Oscar served his penalty and preserve the order.

www.skysports.com

British GP: Oscar Piastri admits Lando Norris swapping back positions in British GP would have been unfair

Oscar Piastri asked McLaren after serving his 10-second penalty whether they would swap him and Lando Norris back around if they agreed sanction was unfair; Piastri later admitted such a swap would not have been fair on his team-mate
www.skysports.com www.skysports.com

From Andrea Stella:


Oscar was presumably enquiring why they weren't sticking to that plan - which was a pretty dumb one and would've caused even more trouble if they'd done it.
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I have to be honest this did cross my mind during the race, I thought they'd have to at least pit Lando first.
 
OutlawQuadrnt
There was a first time this happened? The follow questions would be: how were the conditions then, where was Max relative to Oscar, and was this done at the same relative spot? Something changed that didn't draw attention the first time versus the second one.
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The first time was on lap 17, the previous restart. This explains it better than I can.



Same manouveur, slightly earlier on the straight because the lights on the safety car went out earlier, avoiding action by Max (but no overtake or subsequent spin). It was checked by the stewards but no penalty, so Oscar did the same thing 4 laps later.

He got away with the first one because there was no obvious effect on the other drivers. Not after part 2.
 
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I have to be honest this did cross my mind during the race, I thought they'd have to at least pit Lando first.
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Both the gap to the cars behind and the difference from the penalty were big enough that the order in which they pitted didn't matter. No matter what in regards to their pitting order, the outcome would have been identical (give or take a second or two, but no place changes)
 
So happy for Hulk. That’s the highlight of the season so far, for me anyway.

I’m rooting for Piastri but I have no issue with the penalty. His request to swap positions afterwards was pretty childish too.
 
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"The British Grand Prix stewards hit Oscar Piastri with a penalty which was “extreme to say the least”, according to former F1 driver Jolyon Palmer.

The ex-Renault racer backed his claim up with data analysis, the braking traces of Piastri and Max Verstappen suggesting that Verstappen did not brake as hard as he could have done – and had done earlier – in an incident behind the Safety Car which landed Piastri a 10-second penalty, costing him the win

 
Bazool
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"The British Grand Prix stewards hit Oscar Piastri with a penalty which was “extreme to say the least”, according to former F1 driver Jolyon Palmer.

The ex-Renault racer backed his claim up with data analysis, the braking traces of Piastri and Max Verstappen suggesting that Verstappen did not brake as hard as he could have done – and had done earlier – in an incident behind the Safety Car which landed Piastri a 10-second penalty, costing him the win

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It does not matter that he did it on previous laps. He was punished for doing it on the last safety car lap. That is in the regulations. The duration of the penalty was set by the previous driver to be hit by a 10 second penalty.
 
GlamFM
I think that’s a PR spin and an attempt to save face from Oscar.

Oscar literally said: I don’t think the penalty was fair, we should swap back and race.
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It was literally just a radio message get over it.

Max literally said he thought the penalty was extreme - it’s completely reasonable for Oscar to think it was unfair.

Almost any driver could react similar to the oddly timed lights out on the safety car and have the same penalty they would all think unfair.

Almost all drivers, including Lando, have the radio messages to ask to change positions for fairness if they think they are faster or have lost position due to safety car in between pitatopa etc. Yes sometimes these messages sound childish, busy they all do it these days.

It’s not as uninspiring and lack lustre as all of Lando’s radio messages coaching how to drive and the cry for help with pace in Austria.
 

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