Formula Money - Driving Popularity

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StockCarRacer
Nothing. The only thing to create interest is to have a winning American driver in Formula 1.
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Or to have it appeal to Americans by being on TV at a time that ISN'T at 7 AM in the morning.
 
Sach_F1
Actually, if a popular NASCAR driver tried to make the switch to F1 and actually had some success in doing so (never happen :lol:), it could spark an interest in the sport.

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There's no reason a couple of the top flight nascar guys couldn't do it.
 
Sach_F1
Actually, if a popular NASCAR driver tried to make the switch to F1 and actually had some success in doing so (never happen :lol:), it could spark an interest in the sport.
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But I'm sure an F1 driver would have no problem in NASCAR right?:rolleyes:

I personally like both(as well as most other forms of motorsport) and can see that there are some drivers that have a great amount of talent in both series'.
 
Sach_F1
But like you said, they don't have NCAA and the lot. I happen to be interested in European football as well as racing, and this year I just couldn't keep up with everything. I haven't even attempted to watch the NFL this season. There are only so many hours in the weekend for college football, MLB, NFL, NBA, and everything else.
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NBA? Where have you been? They aren't on till Christmas.

But with Baseball, Stanford Foorball, SF 49ers, and Giants, you still have a point... But somehow I found the time.
 
One positive thing I do have to say on this subject is that circuit racing (time attack, track days, etc) has caught on much more in America with average motorsports enthusiasts than I ever thought it would. Not so long ago, your average gear head would go to the dragstrip on the weekend, very few ever took their cars to a real circuit. Now you've got a significantly increased crowd of casual weekend racer in the US. Maybe that will help people to get more interested in attending F1 races in the US since there seems to be more interest in amateur level circuit racing as a whole.
 
Justin
But I'm sure an F1 driver would have no problem in NASCAR right?:rolleyes:

I personally like both(as well as most other forms of motorsport) and can see that there are some drivers that have a great amount of talent in both series'.
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Some drivers choose to take on the challenge of crossing over into other forms of motorsports (Valentino Rossi). But typicalls they aren't wildly successful with it.

I think a transition from F1 to NASCAR is much more smooth than vice-versa. But it remains to be seen if anyone can be successful doing it. As far as I know no NASCAR drivers have transitioned to F1 (except for the obvious media stunts like the recent Hamilton/Stewart "car swap")

Kimi Raikkonen toyed with NASCAR but ultimately decided to come back to F1 next year.

If we want to argue about driving talent, WRC drivers beat F1 and NASCAR.
 
Justin
But I'm sure an F1 driver would have no problem in NASCAR right?
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My point is, they're different. But yes, I think the transition from NASCAR to F1 would be more of a challenge than going the other direction. But I don't think going either way would be 'easy'.


hawkeye122
NBA? Where have you been? They aren't on till Christmas.
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I was just naming off examples. The worst for me is 'global' football, because I like so many leagues, and it basically goes year-round when you include the MLS. It's just a real commitment to be able to get up every weekend and watch two or three games to really follow the leagues do any degree.


But the same goes for F1. I remember that I was up until about 4am watching Suzuka this year. Really jacked up my sleep schedule considering that I teach at 8am on Mondays. :boggled:
 
prisonermonkeys
Uh, how exactly? They don't pay anything to watch the sport. Suzuka cannot hold 17.5 million people alone, so the Japanese public were watching it on television, and the broadcaster would have been paying the same amount for the rights to coverage if 175 million, 17.5 million, or 1.75 million people were watching the races.

This is just StockCarRacer bumping his own thread because it fell off the first page of the subforum.
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Advertising? Publicity? Note, I said "potential" money for the sport. Those 17.5 million people aren't necessarily paying anything to the sport, but they would be influenced by what is seen on track, and become a customer of a manufacturer in F1, or a large firm seeing the popularity of the sport in Japan, and sponsoring a team in F1. It may bring money to the sport. You didn't do any business subject, did you?
 
Peter.
Those 17.5 million people aren't necessarily paying anything to the sport, but they would be influenced by what is seen on track, and become a customer of a manufacturer in F1, or a large firm seeing the popularity of the sport in Japan, and sponsoring a team in F1.
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Have you ever bought products simply because they were advertised in Formula 1? Very few people actually do. Comapnies that sponsor Formula 1 teams do not just sponsor Formula 1 teams. Look at some of the big sponsors that have been in Formula 1 this year - Vodafone, Red Bull, Shell, Claro, AT&T, Virgin. Their Formula 1 programs are all part of a much bigger advertising campaign. Vodafone have billboards, print adverts and television campaigns everywhere. Red Bull sponsor dozens of sports teams and athletes. Virgin cover dozens of markets with their subsidiaries. That's the strength of their marketing: they image they create for themselves through Formula 1 and all of their other advertising. It is very difficult to specifically point to which customers develop loyalty to a particular brand simply because of their Formula 1 sponsorship. In fact, a lot of the marketing that is associated with Formula 1 is actually aimed at existing customers within the target demographic of people who watch the sport.

Peter.
It may bring money to the sport.
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"May" being the operative term. And any money that finds its way into the sport would only be fractional at best.

Peter.
You didn't do any business subject, did you?
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I did an entire degree in business, so I know what I'm talking about. Business decisions are not made on the basis of what might work. You seem to be under the impression that if a company is involved in Formula 1, then they will get more sales; that by meeting condition A, result B will happen every time. It doesn't work like that.

Please, stop talking about things you clearly do not understand. All you have done so far with this last post is simplify things and generalise them, and it demonstrates that you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
StockCarRacer
When I was talking about F1 being one of the highest watched TV programs in Australia, I was speaking of Mark Webber.
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3 weeks later and now you make your point just to bump the thread?

Or it might have to do with 4 World Championships that have come from Australian drivers compared to 2 from Americans (and that can arguably be one), or it might have to do with the fact that they have had a grand prix in that country that's attended annually for 76 years.

Also, once again since the reminder constantly is not sinking in: America ≠ Europe and now America ≠ Australia. I will also add in order to prevent further cuteness attempted.

America ≠ South America
America ≠ Asia.
 
Sach_F1
Correct. I don't care for it at all. I don't like the style of racing, nor it's antics.
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Why don't you care about NASCAR? What does it stand for in your opinion?

Blitz24
There is almost a 0% chance that F1 will be a top watched sport in America anytime soon.
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I disagree with that. I am confident that F1 will be a top watched sport in America as long as we have a competitive and successful American F1 driver.
 
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prisonermonkeys
Oh, look. The thread has been inactive for five days, and in comes StockCarRacer witha useless post. Again.
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Did he have a gun to your head?

StockCarRacer
Why don't you care about NASCAR? What does it stand for in your opinion?
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"National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing"
 
Can we please lock this thread? All that seems to occur is that someone gives a decent counter to SCR's opinion or belief, he disappears for a period of time and then makes a post that is either not supporting his original statement (nor defending it) or is complete nonsense.
 
NASCAR is the bane of all motorsports. It's the WNBA of motorsports, seriously. It makes us (Americans) look stupid. They need to rename it anyways, these cars haven't been "Stock" for many years. If they went back to actually racing cars off the showroom floor, it might be worth watching, oh and eliminate ovals completely, only then would I watch.

Oh wait, we already do all that, in varying SCCA series, which has some great drivers, but surprise surprise I'll bet very few people in this thread can even name one of the current top American SCCA drivers.
 
Just.... stop.... posting.... All you have done is shown you haven't learned anything.
 
StockCarRacer
Say, if we have a Puerto Rican who has won the World Championship, then he would spark interest in the sport in his homeland.
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If a spleen and a tomato juice were involved in a war between aliens, would the horseradish win a poodle, and then spark interest in his homeland?
 
Blitz24
I might be wrong in saying this but its more likely that NASCAR's viewership would grow in European countries if they got a very successful driver there (from a particular country) than if the same were to happen for an American driver in F1. Its going to take decades for America to become more interested in a sport with zero American cars and 1 American driver.
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I have to disagree with that. The general vibe towards Nascar in Europe is not good. Few people have heard of it or know what it actually is. Whereas people who know of it generally have something derogatory to say about it. The only way Nascar would really catch on in Europe is if they ditched the ovals. It would still be a struggle though.

Personally, I like Nascar, but it is far from being my favourite racing series. I personally don't like the ovals at indianapolis or Daytona, but I love Dover. Some people may find that strange. :sly:

I posted this in another thread, but I think Nascar is great when they visit road courses. A mini Nascar road course series would be great and I know I would watch it.
 
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F1 fan
I have to disagree with that. The general vibe towards Nascar in Europe is not good. Few people have heard of it or know what it actually is. Whereas people who know of it generally have something derogatory to say about it. The only way Nascar would really catch on in Europe is if they ditched the ovals. It would still be a struggle though.

Personally, I like Nascar, but it is far from being my favourite racing series.
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Yeah its not everyone's cup of tea. The only benefit it would have in Europe is that it would always be in prime-time on Sunday Nights.

I still think the OP isn't getting the main message sadly. I was using the reverse example poorly.
 
Blitz24
Yeah its not everyone's cup of tea. The only benefit it would have in Europe is that it would always be in prime-time on Sunday Nights.

I still think the OP isn't getting the main message sadly. I was using the reverse example poorly.
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I somehow missed this thread until tonight and decided to read through from the beginning. It's GTP awards time too. I think there should be a "No 🤬 Sherlock" award. He'd get my vote for some of his posts.
 
F1 fan
I somehow missed this thread until tonight and decided to read through from the beginning. It's GTP awards time too. I think there should be a "No 🤬 Sherlock" award. He'd get my vote for some of his posts.
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As long as Pupik gets the vote for most humorous post in the thread I'm for it.
 
Pupik
If a spleen and a tomato juice were involved in a war between aliens, would the horseradish win a poodle, and then spark interest in his homeland?
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No. The point is if we have a Puerto Rican in F1, then he would create interest in his homeland.
 

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