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Oh yeah.nightkids4eversounds fun
Oh yeah.nightkids4eversounds fun
Do I have the wrong Forza demo?!! It only lets me play 1 track with only a few cars. Thats all nothing else to do.McLarenF1GTREach of these contains about 50 levels, And these are at LEAST 3 races per level. So be prepared to have some time and fun with this game.
Black95Z28I loved the demo, it seemed very realistic to me. I actually liked the physics a lot, braking is important and this game lets you know. Makes GT3 seem EASY. Forza isnt hard though, so dont get the wrong impression. 👍
As for the gfx, they are great, but like someone else mentioned-- they are too bright, or ''water color-ish.'' Just needs to have more "life-like" tones. 💡
Overall, I thought the demo was worth it, I played the demo with every car. Plus, Conker is pretty fun too LOL![]()
McLaren F1GTRWow! Just 1 word. Wow! I'm sorry to say but after playing 3 hours of the Forza Demo, that's all I can say. So I'll give you the look I have on Forza Vs. Gran Turismo 3.
1st off. They don't even compare. Forza knocks it off in A.I., simulation, and details.
A.I.-These AI make GT3's look like dumbies. They are incredibly smart, and act like a real person learning from your every move. If you cut them off, they will just wheel around you. Coming back on to the track? Going around you. Unlike GT3s where you'll be smacked head, these racers move and go by. They take different lines every time, and change speeds every lap through the same corner.
Graphics-So it's not real like GT4. But GT3s are quite better. Forza's though seem to be plain racer friendly. People who love racing games, and don't care whether its sim or not will love Forza's. Quite a nice upgrade from PGR2, I went ahead and compared Forza's 360 Modena to PGR2's. PGR2's handle nothing like Forza's. This was how I could tell Forza was simulating racing a 360 Modena. They handled nowhere near the same, and of course, Forza's felt much more driving like.
Simulation
I would compare GT3s cars to one of Forza's but unfornately, the Nissan Z was a concept and was different to the Nissan 350Z. So there aren't any cars in GT3 I can compare to Forza's except one. The Toyota GT-One. And again. Forza's felt like racing the real thing. You see, to me, after driving a R390 and then a GT-One in GT3, they actually....felt like driving the same car, one with just more power.
Forza's felt way different. The customization part. Yes! You feel a difference. All the game gives you is an Exterior upgrade, and you will tell the difference in racing from just a Body kit, and Spoiler.
So this is how the overview goes:
Graphics-GT3 wins this one in realism, but Forza gets it in Plain Racer Friendly.
AI-Forza definately takes the win on this one. They won't smack into you.
Sim: Forza. Forza's felt alot different. And realer.
A difference in Braking!?
Yes. There is a big difference now. In GT3, you could hold the brake all the way down, and of course, you wouldn't see the wheels lock up. Not HERE buddy!
Forza's requires TAPPING people. Not, hold the brake down and watch the car slow down. You either hold brake down halfway or tap it. Braking is where I noticed the BIGGEST change from GT3. This is requires thinking on where you brake. You tap to fast, and you'll come into the corner too slow. Racers will take this to their advantage, and go around you.
Braking here is going to take a bit of time to master after playing GT3 to much.
Closing Statement:
Forza did what people did not expect it to do. It absolutely blows GT3 out of the water. Even the View that look like GT3's Front View has 2 views. One like GT3's and one resembling inside a car. You can tell the difference, as the car doesn't sound as loud, and other cars are louder. Engine sounds are matched perfectly, and this game reminds me so much of GTR's demo.
This game has truely stolen the racing part in my heart. It IS a Must BUY or Die (j/p) title for the Racing Lover! As far as I'm concerned, there doesn't look to be anything that needs improving on from just the demo.
All it needs now is....an Official Forza Wheel.
nightkids4everI agree with Swift
vinkentoI'm on Swift's side as well... but my view is that Forza is the leprosy of all racing games. I believe Forza should be put on it's own little island with the rest of the terrible racing games to live out the rest of it's diseased, pitiful life. I had to be cleansed by the church after playing the demo and I'm still recovering from the shock.
kinigittpretty clever way of saying you didnt like it. but there are absolutely no reasons provided.
I agree on the braking issue, but it's really not a finished product. So reserve such harsh judgement for a later date. If it sucks as much as it sucks now, it'll have to settle for 2nd or 3rd shelf racing game. But it has potential.
Some people just like being nitpicky and ripping things apart before they're even built. These people make the internet suck.
SwiftOk cool. But if that's the case, it shouldn't be called a "GT3 killer" in demo mode either.
I have no problems reserving judgement. I just have issues when people praise and aspect of a game that is completely unrealistic.
jjboiSeriously, I don't see why there's such hot debates (or any debates at all) going on between Forza and GT4. I mean, let's think realisticlly here. Who HONESTLY thinks that a game just taking it's first few baby steps (in this case, Forza) can topple the fourth installment in a proven, solid line of electronic racing pedigree (in this case, GT4)? I for one sure don't. But that's NOT to say that Forza will suck. Having played the demo myself, I'm quite satisfied with what's been done, and even if I didn't play the demo, I'm pretty sure that my confidence in it would still remain roughly the same. Though whether or not it'll be the Xbox's best racer is debatable (just because it's a simulation doesn't mean it outright beats the arcade-style offerings. It has to EARN that right, and I don't think it'll topple Project Gotham Racing 2 in terms of fun value when all's said and done), but there's no denying that it'll be "better than average". No matter the results of Forza, though, one thing is certain, and it's that we are, whether you like it or not, ARE looking at a long-term competitor to the Gran Turismo series. A competitor that'll dethrone GT or remain in it's huge shadow is yet unknown, but Forza IS in it for the long run, and for racing fans looking for an alternative, that's the beuty of the whole thing. You don't have to like it. You don't even have to appreciate it. But you'll have to live with it.
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kinigittYep. Microsoft won't just sit on the bench and watch sony eat the whole sim racer pie. So people might as well accept the fact that this game might be good, and will inevitably get better.
car list looks snazzy:
http://www.webquad.com/forza/content/view/39/44/
SwiftThis may have been already answered. But why can Microsoft get Ferrari and Porsche but Polyphony can't?![]()
kinigittbecause microsoft has deep pockets?
I don't get why PD doesn't just tug on Sony's sleeve to shell out the licensing cash. Or maybe it's a matter of EA not selling it to them no matter what? I was under the impression that EA no longer has exclusive rights since November, so I don't think that would be the case.
Maybe they're doing it out of spite!
"You think you can charge that much just for us to use your cars? Well FU. We'll make do without."
SwiftYeah, that makes sense. Too bad. having the "big three" in GT would be incredible. Oh well.
BTW: JJboi, you made a very good point. 👍
code_kevI still think forza feels more realistic tbh, especially with the way the wheels grip the tarmac. They have some real bite. Not saying it's better, but that's my opinion.
http://db2.fotocommunity.de/picserver/pic/96/931596.jpg
You gotta love the internal views on PGR2 XD
I still think pgr2 has moments of looking realistic for a game though.
And let's all remember that the experienced one doesn't allways win, remember back to sony and sega back in 1994/95 people.
CAMAROBOY69Here is a video from the Forza Demo from Gametrailers.com
Forza Demo
That is just how bad the demo is. The demo sucks and thats proof. The game itself will probably be great but the demo just plain sucks. That video is the real deal. Before you spam me I am very excited about this game and I cant wait until it is released. I just hate the demo.SwiftWell, that guy is using the controller and it's probably the first or second time they played.
I don't know what's up with all the sparks everytime you come in contact with another car. It didn't look too bad. But not anything incredible. I'm not judgine the game, but this particular vid. It just seemed very lackluster and the HUD was very uninspired. Overall, not bad, but not fantastic either....![]()