Forza Horizon 6 - General Discussion

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Saw 911 Turbo Leichtbau and normal MC12. I'm a happy guy.
Plus, seems they rescanned also the R33 if you see, because the FH6 model it's different, judging by some details.
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Saw 911 Turbo Leichtbau and normal MC12. I'm a happy guy.
Plus, seems they rescanned also the R33 if you see, because the FH6 model it's different, judging by some details.
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Looks like they have, at the very minimum, remodelled the front bumper.

Did Nissan get mad because Microsoft scanned the whole heritage collection at Zama, but still ran with inaccurate geometries for some rather iconic machinery? Most of the remodels seem to be Nissans. :lol:
 
Looks like they have, at the very minimum, remodelled the front bumper.

Did Nissan get mad because Microsoft scanned the whole heritage collection at Zama, but still ran with inaccurate geometries for some rather iconic machinery? Most of the remodels seem to be Nissans. :lol:
I Think your theory might be true, my dear Compaesano!

Seems there are some other Cars from Nissan coming in future, If we look the Zama Heritage Collection.
(Please, a March Turbo 🫪)
 
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Some interesting prices in that AR12 car list video. A quarter mil each for the '69 Z and the '89 MR2? Looks like I'll be doing a bit of grinding in the starter Silvia to get them as my "real" first cars -- no complaints there, though.

Also, the 917 LH Forza Edition? Not an EV conversion, at least not if the 4.6L displacement is any indication.
 
Some interesting prices in that AR12 car list video. A quarter mil each for the '69 Z and the '89 MR2? Looks like I'll be doing a bit of grinding in the starter Silvia to get them as my "real" first cars -- no complaints there, though.

Also, the 917 LH Forza Edition? Not an EV conversion, at least not if the 4.6L displacement is any indication.
Usually when cars are priced like that they are reward cars or playlists cars I'm sure it was the same in FH5 where cars had silly prices because they where playlist rewards. (Example below from FH5 abarth worth 250k because it was playlist)

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In AR12 video he's not in the autoshow.

Yeah the only electric FE is the old F150.
 
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Usually when cars are priced like that they are reward cars or playlists cars I'm sure it was the same in FH5 where cars had silly prices because they where playlist rewards. (Example below from FH5 abarth worth 250k because it was playlist)

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In AR12 video he's not in the autoshow.

Yeah the only electric FE is the old F150.
That makes sense, though the Abarth is a deceptive example because I'm pretty sure it's only a playlist reward car because of the whole Stellantis fiasco, while the 432Z and MR2 are day one cars. There are also indicators in the FH6 car selection screen of whether a car is a Barn Find or Treasure Car, and neither of the cars I mentioned are in that category, so unless they turn out to be Wheelspin Only for some horrifying reason I'm guessing they're just pricey for some other reason. There was an autoshow clip from one of the leaks earlier, but it got taken down, so I can't cross-reference it.
 
That makes sense, though the Abarth is a deceptive example because I'm pretty sure it's only a playlist reward car because of the whole Stellantis fiasco, while the 432Z and MR2 are day one cars. There are also indicators in the FH6 car selection screen of whether a car is a Barn Find or Treasure Car, and neither of the cars I mentioned are in that category, so unless they turn out to be Wheelspin Only for some horrifying reason I'm guessing they're just pricey for some other reason. There was an autoshow clip from one of the leaks earlier, but it got taken down, so I can't cross-reference it.
They could very well be wheelspin rewards or even progression rewards hence the silly prices especially the MR2 no way that will be 250k from the autoshow.
 
Saw 911 Turbo Leichtbau and normal MC12. I'm a happy guy.
Plus, seems they rescanned also the R33 if you see, because the FH6 model it's different, judging by some details.
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It's a complete remodel, it has a new ID of 4057 which puts it between the new S15 model (3999) and new E30 model (4069) in terms of age. The S13 Silvia and R34 are the newest and evidently captured together as they're nice and sequential at 4222 and 4223 respectively.
 
Now all I need are some more details about how custom eventlab races can be configured, and I'm set. The fact that they refer to a term I haven't seen them use before, "Race Customizer," makes me wonder how and if they've tweaked it. (Being able to choose specific opponent cars instead of from randomly-picked Division/category pools would be perfect for me.)
From the Forza Blog link above:

After a race has been completed for the first time, the Race Customizer will be unlocked for that specific event. In the event setup menu, you can adjust the number of Drivatars (up to 11), season, weather, time of day, time progression, number of laps, Rewind availability, camera lock, and traffic. By default, the Race Customizer will select a Car Theme that matches your current car, and there are also several other Car Themes to choose from, including pre-made classes and type-based restrictions. If you prefer, you can even pick each individual car that is permitted for the event.

These sound like the same options available in FH5.
 
It's a complete remodel, it has a new ID of 4057 which puts it between the new S15 model (3999) and new E30 model (4069) in terms of age. The S13 Silvia and R34 are the newest and evidently captured together as they're nice and sequential at 4222 and 4223 respectively.
I wonder why, the only real error I saw on the old R33 model was the wheels are not concave enough.
 
I wonder why, the only real error I saw on the old R33 model was the wheels are not concave enough.
I presume they did a rescan for the r33 as some alignment wasn't 100% accurate though it's a lot less noticeable compared to the r32 and r34. It probably was just convenient to rescan it while also redoing the aforementioned skylines and making the pennzoil gt500 r33.
 
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Some pictures from ar12 car list video shows the ram,starlet and altezza so maybe they are all unlocked via progression.

EDIT : also shows the golf Rallye so that may also be progression or they could all be the first festival playlist who knows.

Bummer, the '99 Viper still looks like it's the same old 3D model. I wonder if they just didn't find one in time for a rescan or something of that sort. I also wonder if the SRT-10 is a new scan or if they've just chosen to freshen up the original model a little. Guess we'll see in a few days.
 
Based on @Kelpy D 's mention of what is on the playlist, I'm going to guess that
The Starlet and Altezza are the JDM cars, and the Ram SRT10 is one of the returnees. Not sure about the second one, though
For the JDMs, you are correct! The spotlight car of the first playlist is something that recently re-emerged in FM23, as part of the Anniversary update.

As for the second returnee for June/July, it last appeared in FM7 and FM23.

As for thumbnail stuff, it's a miracle that the Lancer Evo VI TME is NOT the same Lancer Evo VI TME seen in FM1/2.
 
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For the JDMs, you are correct! The spotlight car of the first playlist is something that recently re-emerged in FM23, as part of the Anniversary update.

As for the second returnee for June/July, it last appeared in FM7 and FM23.

As for thumbnail stuff, it's a miracle that the Lancer Evo VI TME is NOT the same Lancer Evo VI TME seen in FM1/2.
None of the models in modern Forza titles are from Forza 1 or 2, the headlights on most car models have more polygons than the entire cars in the first two games. I think people really need to go back and play the first game again if they really think this.

They were highly likely recreated from the same source material which resulted in the same flaws in newer models. I know this as someone that 3D models from references as a job. No matter what you do, a model is only as accurate as the source material references. If you recreate a model from the same source material, it will always result in the same flaws.

The biggest problem has always been the outsourcing, quality control, and reference material for modeling. A true statement, and something that would not surprise me, is that some of the models are being made from the same source material used to make those models in Forza 1/2.
 
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It's a complete remodel, it has a new ID of 4057 which puts it between the new S15 model (3999) and new E30 model (4069) in terms of age. The S13 Silvia and R34 are the newest and evidently captured together as they're nice and sequential at 4222 and 4223 respectively.
That’s super interesting stuff! Is there a chronological list of all the car IDs since…. basically FM1?
 
For the JDMs, you are correct! The spotlight car of the first playlist is something that recently re-emerged in FM23, as part of the Anniversary update.

As for the second returnee for June/July, it last appeared in FM7 and FM23.

As for thumbnail stuff, it's a miracle that the Lancer Evo VI TME is NOT the same Lancer Evo VI TME seen in FM1/2.
Bet It's the R8 LMS.
The other One It's the Leichtbau or the MC12.
 
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Has there been any updates on if the PS5 version is still coming out this year?

Also, has there been any confirmation if it'll be a digital exclusive, like with FH5?
 
The spotlight car of the first playlist is something that recently re-emerged in FM23, as part of the Anniversary update.

As for the second returnee for June/July, it last appeared in FM7 and FM23.
The only thing I can think of for the first one is the Furai (Or the old V10 R8 but I doubt it)
And the second one? No idea honestly. If we're going all Japanese then I'm saying its the Datsun 2000
 
It's a complete remodel, it has a new ID of 4057 which puts it between the new S15 model (3999) and new E30 model (4069) in terms of age. The S13 Silvia and R34 are the newest and evidently captured together as they're nice and sequential at 4222 and 4223 respectively.
Are there any other remodelled cars to be found by their IDs?
 
Based on the recent AR12 full car list video, these are all the pre-tuned cars (FE, Welcome and PO) and their car divisions, car class and PI level (for FE cars also the boost they receive). This is the initial batch of cars I will drive almost exclusively “as they come in stock form” to “level up” my game, e.g. acquire skill points, credits, XP etc as efficient as possible. Also these are the only cars I will initially dump skill points in (assuming that’s a returning thing from FH4/5, I would much prefer the FH3 way but alas).

The cars marked in green is what you will already own from preordering the ultimate edition (3 VIP FE cars, the welcome pack and the J50 PO).

The reason I do it like this now is because I don’t have much time to play the game before my 3-week holiday later in May, also the fact that unlike FH5’s release I have a GF now so I feel rushed for the little playing time I will have initially. So I will ignore upgrading, tuning and testing out cars as much as possible, stick to the stock pre-tuned cars and initially fully focus on completing the game, opening legend island and collecting all cars I can along the way. Later I will slow it down more and do the barn finds, road discovery, XP board discovery, try out new cars and all that good funky stuff. 😎. Bought the game (Ultimate) on Xbox Series X but will also play it om my ROG Xbox Ally X whenever I can on holiday. 😎

brand
model
year
FH6 division
FE boost
class
PI
BMWM2 Forza Edition
2023​
Track ToysSkills Boost
A​
700​
DodgeViper GTS ACR Forza Edition
1999​
Unlimited OffRoadStunt Skills Boost
A​
700​
FordSuper Duty F-450 DRW Platinum Forza Edition
2020​
Pickups & 4x4sDestruction Skills Boost
A​
700​
FordF-150 XLT Lariat Forza Edition
1986​
Drift CarsStunt Skills Boost
S2​
850​
FordMustang GT 2+2 Fastback Forza Edition
1968​
Drift CarsDrift Skills Boost
A​
700​
LexusLFA Forza Edition
2010​
Extreme Track ToysEvent XP Boost
S2​
900​
LotusEvija Forza Edition
2020​
Drift CarsDrift Skills Boost
S2​
900​
MazdaMX-5 Miata Forza Edition (NA)
1994​
Retro Sports CarsSkills Boost
S2​
850​
MazdaRX-3 Forza Edition
1973​
Classic Sports CarsClean Skills Boost
B​
600​
Mercedes-Benz190 E 2.5-16 Evolution II Forza Edition
1990​
Track ToysClean Skills Boost
A​
700​
NissanGT-R Black Edition (R35) Forza Edition
2012​
Extreme Track ToysSpeed Skills
S2​
850​
NissanS-Cargo Forza Edition
1989​
Track ToysCredits Boost
S1​
800​
Porsche#3 917 LH Forza Edition
1970​
Extreme Track ToysSpeed Skills
R​
998​
SubaruBRZ Forza Edition
2022​
Unlimited OffroadDestruction Skills Boost
A​
700​
SubaruVivio RX-R Forza Edition
1994​
Extreme Track ToysEvent XP Boost
S2​
900​
ToyotaTacoma TRD Pro Forza Edition
2019​
Extreme Track ToysCredits Boost
R​
998​
ToyotaSprinter Trueno GT Apex Forza Edition
1985​
Track ToysEvent XP Boost
B​
599​
WulingSunshine S Forza Edition
2013​
Track ToysCredits Boost
S1​
800​
FerrariJ50 PreOrder Car
2017​
Modern Supercars-
S1​
800​
BMWM4 Competition Coupé 'Welcome Pack'
2021​
Modern Super Saloons-
S1​
800​
FerrariFXX-K Evo 'Welcome Pack'
2018​
Extreme Track Toys-
R​
998​
FordF-150 Raptor R 'Welcome Pack'
2023​
Pickups & 4x4s-
B​
600​
Mercedes-AMGGT Black Series 'Welcome Pack'
2020​
Track Toys-
S2​
900​
MitsubishiLancer Evolution VIII MR 'Welcome Pack'
2004​
Modern Rally-
A​
700​
 
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