Forza VS GT4 threads.

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most arguements are caused by the likes of you, who provide no input to the actual conversation and would rather inconvenience other people who are TRYING to talk.
 
^ Thanks! 👍

I wouldn't have to argue if the threads were not there to start stupid comparision topics which are obviously going to go nowhere.....oh and buy the way.....I don't ever argue about Forza and GT4 anymore.....I cannot be bothered...go and look at my last posts in those threads.....you obviously havent beng paying attention to them!
 
:confused: ...........I'm here to talk about GT4.......It that a good enough reason to post or not!........I don't quite understand what your talking about!
 
mutiple choice : -

you see a thread with "forza" in the title. do you :-

1) Post a message telling people they shouldnt be talking about forza here and the thread should be locked

2) move your eyes slightly up/down the page to another thread, and go check that out instead.

a lot of people seem to be incapable of No2.
 
This thread asked me my opinion on the recient creation of Forza VS GT4 threads.......Therefore I was entitled, and wanted to, put my opinion in on how I feel about the conflict it has created and how it has made these boards somewhat shorted fused reciently. I do not think......Oooo Forza in the title and lets post loadsa ***t to get more conflict!!! Jeez...do you honestly think that!

1. I am bloody well entitled to post in anyone of these threads if I wish so dont go telling me where I can and cannot post......hmm you had no problem with all the other people who have posted in this thread and other VS's threads.....why me!

2. Oh, so I'm not allowed to have an opinion, I am limited to certain thread am I....:lol:!

3. I have no isuue with Forza anymore....but I think it would do better in an environment where there will not be as much conflict....i.e. the Xbox forum.

Robin

^edit.....Ha ,I wasn't talking about closing this thread!...I mean the other ones.....Oh and buy the way....YOU have inadvertantly created more confict in this thread.....when there was none I the first place.....good job! :dunce: .....tell me, Do you have the need to post to moan at people making posts!
 
how would the x-box forum have less conflict? these threads arent just about forza there about GT4 AND Forza. if i wanted to talk soley about forza i would go find an x-box forum but i dont.
 
I don't see a problem in discussing the two.....It just that it is sometimes better not to do somthing when you know it will cause an arguement......YES we would all love to dicuss Forza and GT4 in a quiet, polite and nice manner........but!......it is not happening! So in the interest of not flaming people and moaning constantly I think they should be closed for the good of the community......not the actual concept being rasied!

I think we should just leave it now...... :) 👍
 
The simple fact is that little new information is coming out about GT4.

There is nothing wrong in having hypothetical discussions.

Would those who flame so many discussions on this board, prefer it to be deserted.

If a thread is started about something totally irrelevant to GT4 then I understand people getting uptight.

But surely any link to GT4 should be allowed - however tenuous some may consider it to be.

These speculation threads are good and highly valued in my opinion.
 
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The biggest problem I find is the Gt4 fanboys, who go nuts on speculation on the slightest mention of any other game.

Exactly. Most of the ppl who talk about Forza love the GT series but also like what the Forza series is doing. I mean most of you are big boys and girls, if you don't like something, don't look at the post. But the problem is, you can't help it. You just have to look at the post.

Also by posting all your bs, you keep these threads that you don't like alive. If you ignore them, i'm sure that they would die off.
 
I'll never understand why we can't compare GT4 and Forza (once they will be released, of course). They are similar enough to be compared IMO. Anyway, i'll get myself an Xbox when I'll be over with GT4 to play Forza because it looks like that game will deserve attention. It will not beat GT4 but will be interesting enough to be played and also because they have a different approach I like

Less crappy cars that no one really cares about and more hot rides thet deserve respect. They will only have 200 cars maybe, but if well chosen, It might be enough to satisfy me. They will have all the Japanese cars like Skylines and the likes(but not 20 versions) plus a good array of racecars and sports cars. You know, less 50 bhp cars 👎 👎
PS:GT is not perfect, it has its flaws

See ya :sly:
 
lol, i aggree w/ you on this one Darin. But u must realize when people are bored and want to start up some fanboy wars or something. these things will happen. Prince Vs. Michael Jackson, Ferrari Vs porche, Chocolate Vs. vanilla. they;'ve been around since the beginning of time. :P Both games are gonna be great. so whats the problem... why do we have to have fanboys saying one or the other game sucks or is gonna get its ass kicked by the other game? the reason is they have nothing better to do, and just want to piss people off. 👍

And this is a gt forum, so why else in gods name would someone come to a gran turismo forum and say gt4 will get pwned by forza. im supprized a mod didnt lock the threads before anyone got to post. lol We arent civilized enough as a community to have discussions like that :P
 
So I finally had the opportunity to play Forza at a friend's house. I played it trying to compare it to Gran Turismo 4 and I'll try to give my opinion about it.


The graphics are good, though not as crisp as GT4's. Slightly more detail in the tracks, but the frame rate definitely was sacrificed to get this detail into the game. Of course I first tried the courses that are in both games, starting off with Laguna Seca. Feeling enthusiastic I set all the driving aids off with my first lap... well... that was a bad idea. Driving with a 500hp corvette without any aids is REALLY hard in forza. Harder than in GT4, that's for sure. Maybe if you'd put driving aids off and install normal tires it's harder in GT4, but the way I played both games, Forza is hard to handle without driving aids. The track looks pretty much similar to the one in GT4, with a couple of turns slightly easier to take (with driving aids on!).

Then after a couple of laps on Laguna Seca I went for a lap on Nurburgring, using a Tommy Kaira Impreza. It feels funny after driving many many laps in GT4 on this track to play in this game. The setting of Nur in Forza is more autumn-like, while in GT4 it looks more like it's spring. The track does feel different in a couple of spots but it's pretty accurate as well. Some elevations feel less steep, a couple of turns less sharp. One thing I did notice is that the buildings looked a little better than in the GT4 track, and at some points you can see spectators, which is cool. In Forza the track still has that Nurburgring spirit, yet some turns feel less distinctive than the way it was modelled in GT4, making it harder to see where you are at a certain point. What I did like is that I completely shattered my friend's personal record on Nurburgring when I went for a 2nd lap with that Chrysler supercar. :D:D:D

Tsukuba is the one I played next, pretty much the same as the GT4 one. Though it feels like the track was a little smaller with every turn or straight.


The new york track looks better in forza, the buildings feel like they're more in your face and tall. It feels more like an urban setting, though it still has those 90 degree turns and isn't much more fun that the GT4 course.


I played other tracks as well, which are pretty good. But I can't really compare those to GT4.


Now about the physics and handling. The steering is much more responsive and sensitive in Forza. It's also harder to lose control, but once you let go of the accellerator you get the control back. It's not like in GT4 where you spin out of control completely when you do lose control. Also hitting other cars feels more natural, like you actually hit a car, and not a complete block of concrete like it feels in GT4 when bumping into a car. It does make it easier to ram the lead car off track and take his position, enabling cheap tactics when not playing simulation mode. There doesn't really seem to be any weight transfer while racing. Overall I didn't like the feel of the cars as much as in GT4, but a lot of things in the actual races are better. Damage being one of them, now I've seen it in forza, that has to be in GT5.

One thing I did notice is that the game isn't as deep with cars. They car selection is definitely good, but the way their statistics are shown looks a bit cheap. Also the cars don't look as good as the ones in GT4, but of course they ARE customizable looks-wise.


Of course I didn't play it enough to really be able to compare every aspect of the game, but this is the overall idea I have now. Forza is a good game, it definitely has some things that GT4 should have had, but I don't think it's a better game. Though it IS the next best thing next to GT4. The lack of crappy old Japanese cars is a good thing though, they focus more on the supercars and in my opinion those are more important when trying to race.
 
I had been playing GT3 since the first year it came out. Then I tried GT2 and loved it. Iwas playing GT3 up until the day before GT4 came out and I bought it. I think Im going to stay loyal to the GT series. No matter what game comes out. When I heard of Forza, the first thought that came to my head was, "I want that game." Then I heard PS3 will be out soon with a newer version of GT. So forget Forza. But, if I really want to play Forza, I'll buyit too. My point is... hmmm?
 
Both games rock, in different ways. You can't convince a PS2 owner that Forza is better than GT4, since they don't have an xbox or are biased towards 1 of the companies (or vice versa). I have BOTH games & enjoy BOTH games, but they are different. Let's just say that both systems have a killer racing title......my personal fav is Forza at the moment but I love GT4!!
 
i got both, cant be playing one game over and over ill get completly sick of it.

both games have there pro's and con's. personly i think forza is the better driving game.
as smelly said, when you hit another car it's not like hitting a pixilated block it feals like you are hitting another car, same as slaming into the tyres...

turn all the driving aids off on GT4 and it's a PITA to drive, turn them of in forza and you can still drive it, just like real life! you can control the car alot better..

i think both can be compared, there both driving sims. and both pretty damn good too :D
 
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